Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe
 

Is it really true that Deep Impact, Hurricane Run, and Shirocco will all be running on Sunday? Wow! Are these the 3 best turf horses in the world? I don't know a lot about the history of the Arc, but this has to be possibly the best field ever just based on those 3. Does anyone know if all 3 will be here on Breeders Cup day? Finally, people have posted video links to past races in Europe. Can someone post a link for this race on Sunday (I don't think it is televised, or is it?)?

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3142


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you better believe it, throw in the top french 3yo Rail Link, the fantastic Filly Pride and Leger winner Sixties Icon and you have one fantastic race this weekend!

IMO they all have to beat Deep Impact

deep impact will head back to japan for the japan cup. hurricane run is scheduled to run in the bc turf and they're talking about entering shirocco in the bc classic.

anyway you look at it, we have some very exciting times ahead in the racing world.

TVG will televise it live, and many OTBs simlucast (hub is usually Arlington).

The Arc has been around since 1920. Before WWI, the biggest international race in Europe was the Grosser Preis von Baden, but the French were not about to go to the Enemy Country to prove their horses and so created their own international race. It typically has Derby and Oaks winners from several countries as well as top older horses and mares. For instance, in the 1968 running, Vaguely Noble defeated Sir Ivor (English Derby and 2000 Guineas), Roseliere (French Oaks), La Lagune (English Oaks), Ribero (Irish Derby, English St. Leger), Carmarthen (Prix Ganay), etc. Both Ribot and Sea-Bird made fields full of classic winners look ordinary. Modern transporation has somewhat diluted the fields of late, since the options of the Canadian International and BC Turf provide an alternative to those who are wary of the possibility of very heavy going one often finds at Longchamps this time of year.

that's great news. i noticed that they had international racing scheduled for sunday morning so i figured that they were showing it but i hadn't seen any promotion for it so i was left wondering.

Yes, the Arc is huge! Others have posted the particulars...I'd just add that imo, the biggest races in the world are:
Breeder's Cup Classic
Dubai World Cup
Arc
Japan Cup
Kentucky Derby
Some will make a good argument that other BC races, especially the BCT belong on this list, as would several British races and the Irish Derby, I would like to see the Melbourne Cup get more attention as well...but those 5 stand out to me!

Deep Impact all the way!!:)

I'll go with the horse that saved the day for me last BC day...Shirroco

The softer the ground, the more Shirocco will like it. Won the German Derby in a bog.

Most of Deep Impacts races are on Youtube. Just search for Deep Impact. I watched them today.

This is a very fast and impressive looking horse. Don't be fooled by the foreign language call...over there he is 'Deep-uh Impacto' and he's the horse in front flying to the finish line.

I've watched all three of the big guns, and they look pretty evenly matched to me.

If it comes up soft, I'll go with Shirocco. Hurricane Run didn't switch leads down the stretch in the Prix Foy until they hit the wire. It may have impacted the outcome of the race. Every time Hurricane Run switches leads, he usually takes off with a tremendous burst of speed. However, Shirocco showed his heart and class, and held him all the way. Still, Hurricane Run may can beat this guy.

However, I think Deep Impact's heart gets him to the wire first. He is probably the prettiest moving horse that I have ever seen. He looks as if he is running on air he touches the ground so light. His turn of foot is phenomenal. I love this guy! What a race this is shaping up to be.

Who else is running? Pride? Heart's Cry?

One thing is for sure...this is going to be a race for the ages. We'll be talking about the champion of this race for years to come.

Well, I will be honest. I hate to be one who jumps on a bandwagon, but Deep Impact is the best horse I have ever seen run (on television.) I only wish I could see him up close. I will be surprised if he gets beat. He's amazing.

You and me both, but as long as he doesn't come to the states, that's what it is for me...wishful thinking. I'm really rooting for this horse, and you are right...He is amazing.

It looks like I'll be among the minority then, as I intende to lay Deep Impact big time. Given that he wont have encountered anything remotely similar to what he will on Longchamp on Sunday, the softer conditions, the high-class opposition, that there remain questions over the worth of his form (his sole defeat came at the hands of Heart's Cry, who wasn't good enough in the King George) and the fact that he hasn't run since June all combine to make 3/1 look absurd.

Lay lay lay!

The race has to be between Hurricane Run and Shirocco. On the day I know I'm going to end up going with Hurricane, but I'm sure it's not that clear cut.

The greatest Arc of recent times was Dancing Brave's devastating 1986 triumph when he had the likes of Bering, Acatenango, Shahrastani, Shardari, Saint Estephe, Mersey, Darari and Triptych floundering in his wake. Races simply do not get any better.

In the last 10 years, Peintre Celebre's 1997 success over Helissio, Pilsudski, Oscar Schindler, Swain (1-2-3-4 in 1996) as well as Borgia, Predappio and My Emma was remarkable.

U and me both. I think Deep Impact is in way over his head here. I think he's running for third at absolute best.

yes, he does have an amazing turn of foot. combine that with what seems like unlimited stamina and you've got yourself a winning machine. i'm just hoping the jockey doesn't screw it up.

No way does Deep Impact win this race. I don't think this horse is as good as he appears to be when beating up horses in Japan. I think he will really struggle in the Prix. I could be wrong, but I do not see this horse finishing in the money. I like Hurrican Run in this spot, unless it is very very soft.

Anyone near Central FL, saw today that they will be showing the ARC at the Jai Alai in Sanford on Oct 1

Just thought let u know

Are you talking about the one in Fern Park on 17-92 or the Sanford Kennel Club?

I'll probably head up to the one in Fern Park. I think they're showing it.

Ya the one in Fern Park not the Dog Track

Its in the Sentinel today

Don't take the 'firm' for the Tenno Sho last spring as gospel - it was run in a rainstorm. (TVG re-broadcast it.) His closing kick in that 2-mile (3200m) race was quite astonishing.

I agree with you and thought the same thing. I wasn't expecting to see a kick like that at the end of two miles. Its one of the things that made me think he is the best. and yes, it was rainy and not firm at all.

Well they said today that the turf will be nice and firm for the race

Just like Deep Impact likes

Does anyone know is post 11:00 AM ET or 11:30 ET i have looked 4 or 5 different places and got different answers on both

Race goes off at 11:30. I know you can advance wager today at Belmont and you can use the self service betting from 11am-11:30 tomorrow. It is Longchamp Race 7.

Hurricane Run looks like the winner.

Anyone know the PP for the race?? I looked on the ARC homepage and the PP on there are different from the ones on Equibase

Dont wanna put a bet on the wrong horse now!!!:)

drf.com has race 5-8 on its webs ite for free(including the arc de triomphe):



http://drf.com/internat/pps_international.html

Didn't he run it in 2:24 and change too? Shades of the great one - even in a deep turf. Incredible.

DEEP IMPACT by daylight!!!!!

The area rains near Paris avoided Longchamp and the going is "good to firm" which bodes well for Deep Impact. Regardless, it's a great horse race and always a lot of fun how we see our ocean neighbors conduct racing.

I have divided allegiences in this race. I've been a supporter of German racing and bloodlines for 25 years so I'd love to see Shirocco become the second German winner of this race (Star Appeal was the first). Racing is still primary in Germany, not selling, and I'd like to see the industry rewarded.

But Sunday Silence was one of my all-time favorites, the ugly duckling nobody wanted who showed them that ability and heart counts for more than looks. His son Deep Impact is not just a champion in Japan, he is a once-in-a-lifetime horse , a Secretariat or Citation.

Any links for live video feed from Longchamp?