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hoovesupsideyourhead 12-06-2012 11:58 AM

Gulfstream DQ in R1-12/6 (UPDATE: No Act wins protest decision)
 
:mad:i call bs..:mad::wf

jms62 12-06-2012 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 905436)
:mad:i call bs..:mad::wf

Double DQ to put up a 2/5 favorite from 3rd .... I'd say bs

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-06-2012 12:03 PM

8 was wrong..but the 6 wasnt winning..

3kings 12-06-2012 12:05 PM

I didn't have a bet but there us no way you can take down the #4. This is the kind of crap that makes people find a new hobby.

Alan07 12-06-2012 12:12 PM

complete and utter slap in the face to bettors by taking the 4 down.

fantini33 12-06-2012 12:15 PM

I know its redboarding but I played a straight cold $20 Tri 6 4 8 . My head is still spinning trying to figure out if I was lucky or unlucky or both. Whatever.

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-06-2012 12:15 PM

david 'rippin tickets' cohen is on fire at gulfstream..

tabs 12-06-2012 12:16 PM

Don't remember seeing a double disqualification like that before. I bet the 4-6/4-6-8 x's but the stewards got it wrong. I thought they would leave it as is because the 6 wasn't winning and the 8 didn't impede the 4.....

tabs 12-06-2012 12:17 PM

Gulfstream 2nd

super 6/2-5-7-9/2-5-7-9/1-2-3-5-7-9

jms62 12-06-2012 12:17 PM

I had a show bet on the 4 and was hoping 6 would run out so I wasn't impacted but come on what a BS call.

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-06-2012 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tabs (Post 905446)
Don't remember seeing a double disqualification like that before. I bet the 4-6/4-6-8 x's but the stewards got it wrong. I thought they would leave it as is because the 6 wasn't winning and the 8 didn't impede the 4.....

agreed but now you factor in the politics.. top jock jj dq yesterday..owners/top in the game for most wins..the 2/5 wagering fav..it adds up to double dq

fantini33 12-06-2012 12:19 PM

I realize there is 9 MTP at NY but the 2 at 10-1 might be the overlay of the year.

tabs 12-06-2012 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 905450)
agreed but now you factor in the politics.. top jock jv dq yesterday..owners/top in the game for most wins..the 2/5 wagering fav..it adds up to double dq


The infraction doesn't effect the race outcome but politics trumps that haha gotta love it. I don't like when I'm too cynical about the game but you're probably right Hooves :)

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-06-2012 12:34 PM

im sure im crazy..but its all i can think of after the replays..:zz:

fantini33 12-06-2012 12:37 PM

Strange day all around. 1 and 2 at NY SCR after race was run. Gate problem.

herkhorse 12-06-2012 12:38 PM

what a day :zz:

tabs 12-06-2012 12:39 PM

Gulfstream 3rd

contenders are 3-9-10-11 but I'll pass the race....

tabs 12-06-2012 01:13 PM

Gulfstream 4th

tri 1-3/1-3-2-6-/1-3-2-6-5

Kasept 12-06-2012 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 905450)
agreed but now you factor in the politics.. top jock jv dq yesterday..owners/top in the game for most wins..the 2/5 wagering fav..it adds up to double dq

What politics are involved Matt? Wasn't it Castellano that was taken down yesterday? And Midwest Thoroughbreds leads the wins standings by maybe 300.. Who cares if they do or don't get put up?

Spade is a spade. The stewards are a farce there. This year. Last year. Every year.

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-06-2012 01:42 PM

that call was a joke and if you dont believe those stated reasons were the cause of it than you are naive. imo

Kasept 12-06-2012 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 905469)
that call was a joke and if you dont believe those stated reasons were the cause of it than you are naive. imo

The call was of course a joke. What exactly would I be naive about? You don't need to reach beyond incompetent to explain the calls they make down there year after year.

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-06-2012 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 905476)
The call was of course a joke. What exactly would I be naive about? You don't need to reach beyond incompetent to explain the calls they make down there year after year.

true.

jms62 12-06-2012 02:28 PM

Stewards going to get me for the second time today in the 6th. Watch. No Objection but Inquiry.

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-06-2012 02:33 PM

that was the right call.it got me too

MaTH716 12-06-2012 03:24 PM

Just watched the 1st and can't figure out the reasoning on taking the 4 down.

Invasor 12-06-2012 04:30 PM

http://tnetwork.trakus.com/dsi2007/Gulfstream.aspx
Select race 1 Aerial "view",for another angle of the incident.

The dq of #4 still unreal imo.

Kasept 01-15-2013 05:28 AM

In case you missed it...

http://www.drf.com/news/gulfstream-p...shine-millions

Disqualification overturned

A protest filed on behalf of the connections of No Act over a disqualification from second to third following the running of the first race on Dec. 6 has been upheld following a review of the original decision by former steward Bernie Hettel, acting on behalf of Gulfstream Park.

No Act finished second behind Lord Chelsie, with the 3-5 favorite For All Who Conga checking home third in the roughly run $10,000 claiming dash. Although it appeared Lord Chelsie created all the trouble by drifting steadily through late stretch, the stewards disqualified both the first- and second-place finishers, awarding For All Who Conga the win.

Ron Spatz, the trainer of No Act, filed a protest the following day on behalf of his owner Charlotte Gershaw. In Florida, all such protests are arbitrated by a representative of the host track. To decide the protest, Gulfstream Park officials reached out to Hettel, who had served as a steward here several years ago but no longer works for the track.

“We wanted to find somebody who had no connection to the track or would be biased in any way towards any of the parties involved,” said Gulfstream’s president and general manager Tim Ritvo.

After reviewing the films of the race, Hettel overturned the stewards original decision, placing No Act first, For All Who Conga second, and Lord Chelsie third.

“I disagree with the extent of the disqualification,” Hettel wrote in his decision. “The disqualification of Lord Chelsie was correctly made, however the disqualification of No Act was incorrect. No Act and For All Who Conga brushed as they exchanged glancing contact, but jockey David Cohen aboard Lord Chelsie permitted his mount to drift, interfering with both horses.”

Spatz said the protest was the first he has filed in more than 30 years on the racetrack.

“I disagreed with the stewards’ decision when I originally watched the race and more so after re-watching the tapes several hours later, so I filed a protest the next day,” said Spatz. “Naturally I’m very happy the arbitrator saw things the same way, overturned the decision, and awarded us the win.”

Bigsmc 01-15-2013 07:24 AM

Another blow to the integrity of the game that needs me to gamble my hard earned money while relying on the decision making of the Stewards to keep the running of the races fair.

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-15-2013 08:03 AM

so i get my pick 4 paid out?.lol

MaTH716 01-15-2013 08:05 AM

The majority of people couldn't give a damn on who gets put up now. All this does is pour salt in the wound of the bettors that got screwed that day.

Travis Stone 01-15-2013 08:05 AM

How many other states/jurisdictions have a protest option? I know anyone can probably present a challenge to the stewards or commission, but is this approach of bringing in a 3rd party done anywhere else?

dagolfer33 01-15-2013 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 911832)
How many other states/jurisdictions have a protest option? I know anyone can probably present a challenge to the stewards or commission, but is this approach of bringing in a 3rd party done anywhere else?

NFL:D


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