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TheSpyder 11-26-2012 06:48 PM

How did you do this year?
 
I often wait for a few more weeks, but for me, the vote is in, and besides I hear the world might end in a few weeks, (Just when I'm watching my 50/1 shot complete the pick 6!)...

After over 40 years of playing the ponies 2012 was easily the absolutely worst year ever! I mean I went from on fire late 2011 to 6 feet under from the time the baloon hit the pavement in Times Square.

Mind you there were times when I was close, but, anyone on an eighth grade date knows about getting "close".

So for me, 2013 cannot come soon enough, as I need some change and boy am I due!

How about you?

DaTruth 11-26-2012 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder (Post 904116)
I often wait for a few more weeks, but for me, the vote is in, and besides I hear the world might end in a few weeks, (Just when I'm watching my 50/1 shot complete the pick 6!)...

After over 40 years of playing the ponies 2012 was easily the absolutely worst year ever! I mean I went from on fire late 2011 to 6 feet under from the time the baloon hit the pavement in Times Square.

Mind you there were times when I was close, but, anyone on an eighth grade date knows about getting "close".

So for me, 2013 cannot come soon enough, as I need some change and boy am I due!

How about you?

It has been a very bad year for me at the windows. Other than Wilkinson in the American back in May, I can't think of many highlights. The Breeders' Cup was an absolute disaster.

cal828 11-26-2012 06:59 PM

Had some good moments and bad, but more bad then good. Seemed way tougher this year to me too.

Calzone Lord 11-26-2012 07:31 PM

I've had a good year in terms of betting...but I'm on quite a roll in terms of life in general over the past week, the dentist went yard on me last week and getting into a car addicent yesterday... I'm out close to $10,000 just between the dental work and my car getting totaled with no collision insurance. Unless they find the other person at fault for the accident, which they won't. At least I had liability coverage or I'd really be having a nightmare week.

Sightseek 11-26-2012 07:51 PM

If it wasn't for the Derby and the BC, it would have been a very bad year! Those three days were really thrilling for me though.

Worst year ever for Gulfstream and Saratoga.

TheSpyder 11-26-2012 09:28 PM

I understand they have a name for this...hoof and mouth desease.
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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 904126)
I've had a good year in terms of betting...but I'm on quite a roll in terms of life in general over the past week, the dentist went yard on me last week and getting into a car addicent yesterday... I'm out close to $10,000 just between the dental work and my car getting totaled with no collision insurance. Unless they find the other person at fault for the accident, which they won't. At least I had liability coverage or I'd really be having a nightmare week.


TheSpyder 11-26-2012 09:31 PM

Of course, modern day it's car and mouth desease.

Danzig 11-27-2012 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 904126)
I've had a good year in terms of betting...but I'm on quite a roll in terms of life in general over the past week, the dentist went yard on me last week and getting into a car addicent yesterday... I'm out close to $10,000 just between the dental work and my car getting totaled with no collision insurance. Unless they find the other person at fault for the accident, which they won't. At least I had liability coverage or I'd really be having a nightmare week.

i don't suppose you had uninsured motorist property damage coverage? it would cover 'hit and run'.

Calzone Lord 11-27-2012 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 904166)
i don't suppose you had uninsured motorist property damage coverage? it would cover 'hit and run'.

I have what is basic auto insurance in PA. Everything insured except for collision repairs to my own car.

So, if I am found at fault for the accident...my insurance pays for damages to the other car and person (the person in the other car didn't even have a bruise and is fine) However, I'm SoL on my own car and I will have to pay the other persons deductable.

If I'm not found at fault (unlikely) the other persons insurance will take care of the value of my car.

Danzig 11-27-2012 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 904168)
I have what is basic auto insurance in PA. Everything insured except for collision repairs to my own car.

So, if I am found at fault for the accident...my insurance pays for damages to the other car and person (the person in the other car didn't even have a bruise and is fine) However, I'm SoL on my own car and I will have to pay the other persons deductable.

If I'm not found at fault (unlikely) the other persons insurance will take care of the value of my car.

yeah, i know how the coverages work. i just thought i'd ask in case you had that in the policy. the car is paid for tho, right? sell it for scrap/parts and buy another...and get collision, even if it's a high deductible to help defray the premium.

knickslions2 11-27-2012 07:40 AM

I had a good Saratoga meet but other then that couldn't sustain any momentum.

PatCummings 11-27-2012 10:37 AM

If Little Mike doesn't win the three G1 races he did, I'd have had a fine year.

robfla 11-27-2012 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PatCummings (Post 904187)
If Little Mike doesn't win the three G1 races he did, I'd have had a fine year.


Because Little Mike won the three G1 races he did, I had a fine year.

casp0555 11-27-2012 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by PatCummings (Post 904187)
If Little Mike doesn't win the three G1 races he did, I'd have had a fine year.

Little Mike had a reverse affect on my bankroll for sure. Ass has been kicked last couple of months, last big hit was Gome on Dude winning the Cup and Undaunted Rally capping the P4 at +50-1 on Gold Cup day at the 'wood for a buck :) plus had the w/p on UR also :$:.

VOL JACK 11-27-2012 12:19 PM

Really good year everywhere except for Saratoga.
The Spa has done me in the last 3 years, seriously cutting back my handle there next year.

GoIrish 11-27-2012 01:21 PM

I'm actually in the black for this year. Overall ROI is +14.65%. Win percentage is 25%; win ROI is just above even though (which is an improvement over years past). Got my ass handed to me on multirace wagers; -16.79%. Big year for exactas: +127.84% thanks to a $252 job at Gulfstream and a $150+ hit at Monmouth. Thanks to Sandy I didn't have a chance to lose hundreds on the BC this year, which certainly helped the bottom line.

GPK 11-27-2012 01:32 PM

Awful. I was not gonna check. I wish now in wouldn't have.

Heels1989 11-27-2012 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 904220)
Awful. I was not gonna check. I wish now in wouldn't have.

Me too. Sad part is, there have been some very good days. Unfortunately way to many BAD days. :(

MaTH716 11-27-2012 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Heels1989 (Post 904221)
Me too. Sad part is, there have been some very good days. Unfortunately way to many BAD days. :(

Held my own for the most part, but every Nerdy Trail field trip I went on (Tampa & Belmont Stakes Day) were absolute bloodbaths.

Heels1989 11-27-2012 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 904222)
Held my own for the most part, but every Nerdy Trail field trip I went on (Tampa & Belmont Stakes Day) were absolute bloodbaths.

Never had so much fun losing money :D

MaTH716 11-27-2012 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Heels1989 (Post 904223)
Never had so much fun losing money :D

:tro:

herkhorse 11-27-2012 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 904220)
Awful. I was not gonna check. I wish now in wouldn't have.

:tro: Ditto

GPK 11-27-2012 07:14 PM

Holy sh*t...someone help me, please. I am breaking down my year, track by track.

On the bright side, I turned a profit at Fraser Downs this year.:)

Heels1989 11-27-2012 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 904241)
Holy sh*t...someone help me, please. I am breaking down my year, track by track.

On the bright side, I turned a profit at Fraser Downs this year.:)

Whats your K Tohill numbers and are they better than Bernie Butler? ;)

3kings 11-27-2012 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 904222)
Held my own for the most part, but every Nerdy Trail field trip I went on (Tampa & Belmont Stakes Day) were absolute bloodbaths.

BT was at both........just saying. That being said I usually do well when BT is around, did well Derby weekend and OK Belmont weekend. If I would have used Union Rags, like he instructed me to, it would have been a big weekend. Still down overall for the year but not really much.

GPK 11-27-2012 07:28 PM

Only 3 tracks I turned any kind of significant profit were Tampa, Santa Anita and Fairgrounds. Gulfstream was just about a break even.

MaTH716 11-27-2012 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Heels1989 (Post 904242)
Whats your K Tohill numbers and are they better than Bernie Butler? ;)

GPK :{>: Ida Paquette

MaTH716 11-27-2012 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 904243)
BT was at both........just saying. That being said I usually do well when BT is around, did well Derby weekend and OK Belmont weekend. If Mike Smith doesn't open up the rail for Union Rags it would have been a big weekend. Still down overall for the year but not really much.

FTFY

GPK 11-27-2012 07:36 PM

This is about to get interesting. I am gonna figure out my harness numbers.:) I already know I showed a small profit at Balmoral for the year.;)

GPK 11-27-2012 07:40 PM

Harness figs:wf:wf

Summary from 01/01/2012 to 11/27/2012
Wagers Total Handle Winnings Win/(Loss)
425 $1,862.90 $1,186.85 ($676.05)

geeker2 11-27-2012 07:46 PM

I won but I lost :o

dylbert 11-27-2012 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PatCummings (Post 904187)
If Little Mike doesn't win the three G1 races he did, I'd have had a fine year.

I feel your PAIN... He got me in Arlington Million (I had next 3 horses) and BC Turf (I had next 4 horses).

Calzone Lord 11-27-2012 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 904248)
Harness figs:wf:wf

Summary from 01/01/2012 to 11/27/2012
Wagers Total Handle Winnings Win/(Loss)
425 $1,862.90 $1,186.85 ($676.05)

A $1.28 ROI playing harness races is a pretty telling indication that you shouldn't be betting them.

It's a slightly higher ROI than buying scratch-off lotto tickets...and no one hits for a $1 millon playing harness like my now-broke former neighbor did playing a $20 scratch-off.

GPK 11-28-2012 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 904258)
A $1.28 ROI playing harness races is a pretty telling indication that you shouldn't be betting them.

It's a slightly higher ROI than buying scratch-off lotto tickets...and no one hits for a $1 millon playing harness like my now-broke former neighbor did playing a $20 scratch-off.

My problem is I just need to go to sleep earlier. Between harness and Australian racing at night, it just pretty useless for me to even waste money on those.

Calzone Lord 11-28-2012 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 904291)
My problem is I just need to go to sleep earlier. Between harness and Australian racing at night, it just pretty useless for me to even waste money on those.

I will give you a 10% rebate on all harness and Aussie action and book it for you.

We will both benefit from it.

When my father had his trainers license revoked, he bought a bar in the city called Clancy's and it was basically a hub for bookmaking during the day and dice and card games above it at night. This was in the mid 80's right before 'The Downs at Erie' opened ...and the only place in town to get a DRF was Dee's Cigar Store.

The only detective in the city who handled homicide cases at the time, he would be on the phone placing bets to my father all day long. He would call him up with $2 exacta wheels and everything else. At one point, he owed my father about a thousand dollars, and pops got so sick of taking his bets that he told him "we are even! Just please, don't call here anymore with your bets." the detective refused, paid him off, and kept the all-day phone calls coming.

GPK 11-28-2012 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 904306)
I will give you a 10% rebate on all harness and Aussie action and book it for you.

We will both benefit from it.

When my father had his trainers license revoked, he bought a bar in the city called Clancy's and it was basically a hub for bookmaking during the day and dice and card games above it at night. This was in the mid 80's right before 'The Downs at Erie' opened ...and the only place in town to get a DRF was Dee's Cigar Store.

The only detective in the city who handled homicide cases at the time, he would be on the phone placing bets to my father all day long. He would call him up with $2 exacta wheels and everything else. At one point, he owed my father about a thousand dollars, and pops got so sick of taking his bets that he told him "we are even! Just please, don't call here anymore with your bets." the detective refused, paid him off, and kept the all-day phone calls coming.

That's classic. You don't want to book my action. That would require me having your phone number and if I got that, I would distribute it to all my fellow lollipop guild members and they would prank call you unmercifully, day and night.

Ocala Mike 11-28-2012 12:37 PM

How did you do this year?
 
I bet A LITTLE less this year, and lost a LOT LESS. LITTLE MIKE was good to me, and some decent scores recently helped a lot. I've become mostly a weekend/holiday bettor now, unless I see something special on other days.

Indian Charlie 11-28-2012 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 904311)
That's classic. You don't want to book my action. That would require me having your phone number and if I got that, I would distribute it to all my fellow lollipop guild members and they would prank call you unmercifully, day and night.

You could place wagers through email.

Hoist Her Flag 11-28-2012 06:06 PM

this year
 
We saw how the email thing worked for the General.

Became a weekend, holiday better. Bet more money per race and bet less overall races. Quit playing Gulfstream/Todd Pletcher Downs and kept my sanity.

hoovesupsideyourhead 11-28-2012 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 904306)
I will give you a 10% rebate on all harness and Aussie action and book it for you.

We will both benefit from it.

When my father had his trainers license revoked, he bought a bar in the city called Clancy's and it was basically a hub for bookmaking during the day and dice and card games above it at night. This was in the mid 80's right before 'The Downs at Erie' opened ...and the only place in town to get a DRF was Dee's Cigar Store.

The only detective in the city who handled homicide cases at the time, he would be on the phone placing bets to my father all day long. He would call him up with $2 exacta wheels and everything else. At one point, he owed my father about a thousand dollars, and pops got so sick of taking his bets that he told him "we are even! Just please, don't call here anymore with your bets." the detective refused, paid him off, and kept the all-day phone calls coming.

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