Liberal Professor Calls Thanksgiving Racist Holiday
 

You have to love these whacko liberal professors:


http://cnsnews.com/blog/dan-gainor/t...zis-journalism

So you are denying there was any genocide of the indeginous people?

I'm not denying that. Does that makes the professors comments accurate? Do you think we should give up Thanksgiving? Is Thanksgiving a celebration of the murder of Indians?

name a counry who didn't annihilate their indigenous population.



there is a show on history channel that will tell you that there are native american casinos who won't accept a $20 bill.
but..
andy jackson did all he did for the sake of the us. the indians were used by foreign powers to cause issues for us.

read the stories, study. don't let your education end in 12th grade

no.

abe lincoln called for thanksgiving. read. study. learn. don't think education ended with formal education.

Have only been to a couple of indian casinos. Both are on I-40. One is the Sky City Casino at Acoma, New Mexico and the other is the Fire Lake Casino just east of OKlahoma City. Enjoyed both of them and neither seemed to have any problem with taking my $20 bills as both took a lot of them, but that's ok I thoroughly enjoyed myself. My wife and I have stopped at both these casinos several times. I liked them. The one in New Mexico serves some soup called possole that is hot as a firecracker and very good. I may have to try to figure out how to make that stuff.

yeah, they don't all have an issue with the $20. there's far more to the story, but isn't there always? andy knew that other countries liked to stoke the fires between the native americans and the people immigrating. jackson did what he did to protect settlers. but it's a lot easier to just call the guy a murderer than to question his motives.....

I think I can see why some might view him as a murderer considering that the indians of the South East were removed from their land and dispossesed of that land and forcibly moved West of the Mississippi resulting in the deaths of 5,000 of them on the "trail of tears." But having said that, at least the land west of the Mississippi wasn't so horrible. Some of that land that indians live on further west is hardly fit for rattlesnakes and scorpions.

Yeah, i know why he is viewed as such. I once also thought he was deserving of every appellation assigned to him...
However, as in so many things, there is more to the story. Jackson moved the native americans to remove a ready tool of american enemies, such as england and france. He did what he did based on what he thought was best fir the u.s. truth be told, when one considers the why, what argument can someone make that jackson was wrong?
Could thing have been handled better? Sure. Did he have every reason to think his actions were justified? Absolutely.

Sorry, hard for me to see it as anything more than white people coveting indian land. We have a long history of that sort of thing. Can't buy the England and France thing either. At the time that the indians were moved west of the Mississippi, France had no North American possession so I can't see that they would have been interested. The Brits had Canada, but that's a long way from the Southeastern US from which the tribes were removed.

It was a rhetorical question.

I think Zig may have been PWI yesterday.

it is more than wanting the land. every conflict, the brits (and the french in the french and indian war) had stoked up the indians to cause trouble. spain did so as well, since they still held florida also, when you look at the history of texas, the brits were very much interested in gaining that area. their involvement is a key reason why the u.s. decided to annex texas as a state. also, the brits still held land other than canada. it wasn't til james polk that the english accepted the boundary of the oregon territory.
and france became very involved in mexico. santa anna didn't lose his leg fighting americans, it was the french.
jackson didn't hate the indians, many had been his allies when he was fighting the indian tribes in the years before the battle of new orleans. the whites had a lot of land compared to population. he just felt they would be used, again, as they had been used so often before. that our enemies would use them to cause us issues.

not at 7:29. :D

Wow, nobody's said anything for two days. We must have put them all to sleep with our discussion about Andy Jackson. :D Too bad. I lilke historical discussions.

I love them too. Just finished a thorough biography of sam houston, and am now reading a new book on john quincy adams.

Have two books by h w brands up next (i tend to buy up books by authors i like), one is a new bio of grant, the other on teddy roosevelt. I read his books on jackson and on the early days of texas. Highly recommend them.

I knew you must have gotten that warped stuff on Jackson somewhere.:D Must admit don't read much stuff like that. Reading A Game of Thrones Now. Mostly cause my son gave it to me. He likes things like The Lord of the Rings types of books. Finished The Hunger Games not too long ago. Would love to see the movie The Life of Pi cause I read that book. Not sure that my reading tastes are much like anyone elses. I often go to library and just pick up 2 or 3 books I've never heard of and go over and read a few pages of them and if I like them, take them home. Read a bunch of books like that I really liked by Irish authors. One entitled Ireland and another entitled Galway Bay. Both really good and lots of Irish history in them.

My oldest is a fan of all things tolkien. I would encourage you to try out bernard cornwell. Fantastic writer, with books set during the hundred years war, englad before the normans, and his version of the arthurian legends. Also has a huge series based on all the wars involving the duke of wellington, with the action centered on a rifleman.
Ceinwyn is named for a character in his arthur trilogy. My son has her brother, derfel, from the same book.

As for jackson, i think his legacy suffers from people who only fasten on his indian removal policy, rather than looking into his detailed reasons why. After the revolution, before the 1812 to 1815 war, the brits frequently encouraged indian uprisings against us.

Oh, and our ally, france....yeah, she helped us vs britain, but didn't exactly want us to win. It was in their best interests to keep it going as long as possible, as a way to weaken britain, thus strengthening france.

I'll have to get a copy of that book. I had pretty much already guessed that you were reading one.

Haven't read many history books over the years, can count on one hand.
Think we talked about The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, i still have that in hard cover and paperback...and The Longest Day..have boxes of books in the attic...my favs were political thrillers and crime drama...my all time fav is The Day of the Jackal by Frederick Forsyth, still have that one with rubber bands holding it together...read other books by him but that was the best.
Last book i read was The Da Vinci Code, very good..movies of books always fail, except maybe The Godfather and The Exorcist...

Read it a few months ago...which lead me to reading brands on texas, which lead to sam houston... and reading jackson also made me want a book on quincy adams, and clay. Read on clay last month (and polk)
I like brands writing style, lots of info but not dry or boring. I think ill read grant next. His memoirs were good, but i enjoyed shermans more.

When i got the JQA book out, i said 'that author sounds familiar'. I have his book on james monroe

You mentioned The Da Vinci Code. I've read 3 or 4 of those books by Dan Brown. They're all pretty entertaining. I think the last one I read of his was called The Lost Symbol. There's a lot of info in that one about the influence of the Masons on the founding fathers and on Washington DC.

Read the da vinci code. I enjoyed figuring out the clues, the round church, aka the temple church, for one. Will marshall buried there. Was obvious to me tho that he had written the book with a movie in mind.
The godfather movie was helped by puzo writing the script.

As for history, i was always interested in british history. But i have expanded over the years. i have a book guaranteed to cure insomnia. 'The history of europe'. It is booooring.

Powerball
 

Went to get a powerball ticket last night. Jackpot huge. Nobody won. Now at 425 million. I probably wouldn't have played, but had to take wife over to Little Rock to the airport so she could fly to California. There's a big sign on the way that gives the powerball and megamillions totals. Wife said to play. Surprised I remembered to play. Whatever, she says often goes in one ear and out the other.:D Probably a little selective ADHD acting up. Played $10 bucks worth. Which is 5 sets of numbers. Got way more numbers right than I usually do. Usually only get one or two numbers right. Got 4 numbers plus the powerball. Unfortunately only 2 numbers plus the powerball on one line so only a $7 winner. One more number would have been a decent $100. Oh well, better chance of getting hit by lightning than winning powerball, but no great loss this time.

To little rock.....hey, neighbor.:D

Yes, I thought you lived in Arkansas, but I didn'tk now exactly where. I was thinking down there in that "godforsaken" southeast Arkansas:D in maybe Hamburg or Crossett. Course a lot of people think of all of Arkansas as being "godforsaken." I used to work down there a lot and just about everywhere else in Arkansas. I didn't really hate it down there. Just hated the drive from Hot Springs. Not sure how many miles I drove in my work career, but a lot. Now hate having to go the 8 miles to town and really hate driving the 55 miles to Little Rock which I do usually a couple of times every week because my daughter is an OB/GYN and a single mother. She delivers babies at night and so I have to go to LR when she is on call to spend the night with my grands(6,8 and 10).

Yep, hamburg. We both work in crossett. And it is forsaken, but i don't regret moving there at all.
We just bought 42 acres on bull shoals, in oakland. Plan to retire there in about 15 years.

Not that I hate being with my grandchildren, but just that I hate that boring drive to Little Rock that I've done so many times before both in my personal life and when I was working. I'd rather drive from here to California than to drive to Little Rock.

I've been retired for 2 years. Wife is still working. Not sure when she will retire. Probably when she reaches 66 because of Social Security. Want to be sure that we are firmly in the 47%.:D We have contemplated buying a lake lot, but they are outrageously high here in Hot Springs and I think expensive no matter where you get them. Wife wants to buy a condo in Las Vegas. Lots of reasonable properties there now. We love Vegas. Usually go there 2 or 3 times a year anyway.

Yeah, price is why we went further north. Found a great spot with a beautiful view, and very happy with what we paid. Gently sloping, all usable. Would have loved a place near degray, but the prices...ugh

Erwha?

Rosemary's Baby?
The Shining?
Misery?
Silence of the Lambs?
No Country for Old Men?
Jaws?
The Hunger Games?
Princess Bride?
Gone With the Wind?
Lord of the Rings trilogy?
Wizard of Oz?
Casino Royale?
The Shawshank Redemption? (okay, novella, whatever. So add Stand By Me, too)

What are your favorite adaptations?

However,I totally give you this- the films of The Exorcist and The Godfather are much, much better than the books. The list of movies better than the books is pretty short. Oh, Jaws. Move Jaws to this list. Much better than the book.

I usually like both, but I think that sometimes the problem is that in movies they sometimes change something and put something in the movie that was not in the book. Sometimes makes it better, but sometimes not.

I had the powerball only..4 bucks....been playing for awhile...their payoff chart sucks..like you said, you have a better shot in the electric chair..:D

Last nite at 11pm TNT was showing da vinci code..i watched about 20 mins and hit the sack..

I guess I'll have to go give them another donation, if I can remember it on Wedneday night for the 425 million. Probably won't remember it without my "sweet thang," here to remind me. She's only been gone for two days and I already miss her. Already tired of eating things out of a can.:D I may lose some major weight while she's gone. Could go into town to a restaurant, I suppose, but I have always hated eating alone. One thing good though, don't have to watch any brainless episodes of the "housewives." Much rather watch History channel or CNN.

What! you don't cook for yourself?...wife fractured her right arm bout 5 weeks ago and can't do crap...I'm chief cook and bottle washer..had lot's of leftovers from thurs but ran out yesterday so back to the kitchen for me today..call myself Chef Boyardeejay..:D...think i'll go with spaghetti today...yum..

Watched some of it too, but had already seen it, so turned tv off and started to read "Game of Thrones." Not much opportunity to read around here without the TV on. Wife likes to watch a lot of reality TV which basicly makes me a bit crazy. Not sure whether we are typical household or not, but watching TV and reading sometimes is hard for me to do, but not for her. Not sure whether any studies have been done or not, but I think, if any have they probably prove that women are way better than us at multi-tasking. When she is watching TV, I usually have to seek refuge at the computer and even that is difficult. She likes to wander from the living room to kitchen and turn the kitchen tv on which is right next to our small "media" room where the compter is located. Anyway, plans to read "Game of Thrones" went awry. Nodded off after about 10 minutes.

I do cook a little, but might have to seek help from the poison center, if I did much.:D Do have some turkey day leftovers which I may try. Something about Thanksgiving leftovers that don't really appeal though. I don't do too much cooking. Wife is much better at it. Since I retired have pretty much become a house husband. Since wife still works, only fair that I do most of the housework cleaning and doing laundry, etc. Not wild about it, but do it. Gives you some appreciation for what women do. Not that I needed much, having lived with one for 40 years and having had women bosses most of the time when I worked. Amazing how much laundry 2 people have. Always thought that I would enjoy cooking, but so far have not added that to my resume.

Did all the cooking for years. With just the two of us now, we generally only cook on sats and sundays. I do not miss cooking at all.