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BellamyRd. 09-25-2006 08:59 AM

Dynasty Done
 
Pats looked horrific last night to a mediocre Bronco team
Branch was more valuable than they thought
next dynasty waiting to happen is in Ohio
those Bengals look like Super Bowl material

2MinsToPost 09-25-2006 09:11 AM

I agree on both counts. Pats showed a little something last week, a little. They showed nothing last night and the look on Brady's face told the tale.

Putting aside my team, Colts, I will point blank tell you that the best team in the AFC no question is the Bengals. Living where I do (Columbus) I get to see every one of their games (thank god for the NFL Ticket so I can watch the Colts every week). Let me tell you, that game yesterday was one of the hardest hitting games I have ever watched. The Bengals are great on all fronts, Offense and Defense. Their Special Teams is great. The key to yesterdays game - they won the way they did in essence without Chad Johnson. Now, to be fair, if Ben R was 100%, which he obviously is not still, would it have played out different? Honestly I don't think it would have made that much of a difference.

By the way the Colts beat one of the best teams in the AFC yesterday, a darn strong Jaguar team:D

The whopping that Seattle put on the Giants in the first half was ugly - but props to the Giants for not giving up and playing good ball in the second half.

I was torn too because Tampa Bay kept fighting and fighting till the end, lost to Carolina in a nail bighter but it was fun to watch.

The 1 o'clock games yesterday were fantastic.

Pointg5 09-25-2006 09:25 AM

Odell Thurman got a DUI last night and Chris Henry was in the car with him, they do something positive and then a negative....

Pointg5 09-25-2006 09:30 AM

Chad Johnson still had a huge impact on the game, they double team him and Houshyourmomma and Henry make you pay, honestly those two could probably be 1 receivers on most teams...It was an ugly game, but the Bengals won, that's all that is important...It's funny you mention Dynasty and the Bengals, I was reading the Football Scientist before the beginning of the Season and he had a whole section devoted to how he believes the Bengals are going to be the next Patriots...It's possible, they are young and all of their impact players are signed long term...

BellamyRd. 09-25-2006 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5
Odell Thurman got a DUI last night and Chris Henry was in the car with him, they do something positive and then a negative....

LOL are you serious? They'll be like the Cowboy dynasty
always in trouble with Johnny Law
Colts are great too 2min, don't get me wrong
if they meet for the AFC, should be a classic

Pointg5 09-25-2006 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BellamyRd.
LOL are you serious? They'll be like the Cowboy dynasty
always in trouble with Johnny Law
Colts are great too 2min, don't get me wrong
if they meet for the AFC, should be a classic

Dead serious...He tried to jump the line in a DUI checkpoint...Guy's got serious problems...These guys can flat out play, but are wild....

The Bengals and Colts matchup on a MNF game in December, should be a good one...I don't know if they can stop the Colts, but it'll be a fun game to watch...

2MinsToPost 09-25-2006 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5
Dead serious...He tried to jump the line in a DUI checkpoint...Guy's got serious problems...These guys can flat out play, but are wild....

The Bengals and Colts matchup on a MNF game in December, should be a good one...I don't know if they can stop the Colts, but it'll be a fun game to watch...

Pg - your Bengals are bad this year, are flat out bad (you know what I mean)
best team in the AFC in my opinion

did you hear about no more who dey?

Pointg5 09-25-2006 09:57 AM

No, I didn't hear about no more Who Dey?

2MinsToPost 09-25-2006 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5
No, I didn't hear about no more Who Dey?

after the game Lewis told his team no more who dey, it's time we get some respect and act accordingly they showed it live on CBS

Pointg5 09-25-2006 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost
after the game Lewis told his team no more who dey, it's time we get some respect and act accordingly they showed it live on CBS


I didn't see it, but it doesn't surprise me, Marvin is a great coach, just needs to reign in some bad seeds...

chromer 09-25-2006 10:39 AM

I'm not a hater. I'm not trying to rain on anyones parade. But I have to mention that I watched a different game than the one you folks did.

The Bengals were handed a game by an out of sync Pittsburgh "O" that repeatedly turned the ball over. Cincinnati's defense looked good but isn't even the best in their division (see Baltimore). Palmer alternated between brilliant and awful. How is this a formula for an AFC champ?

Three games in would be an early call for a team not demonstrating the problems Cincinnati has. I doubt they get past Baltimore when they play. And Indy? Are you kidding me?

1st_Saturday_in_May 09-25-2006 10:40 AM

Sigh....congrats to your guys Pgiven (mwind), Bucket, etc. Was a great game, but you guys came out on top. Still cant believe Cowher had Colclough back for that punt - dude muffed 3 pregame and was a mess all preseason especially having drafted a guy in the 3rd round whose sole reason for playing football is to return punts!!! I thought our D played really well, but you guys just got too many weapons for C. Palm. with Johnson, Houschawhatshisname, and Henry. Roethlisberger still looks like a headcase and still isnt 100% mentally it seems. Both teams seem very close talent wise and I look forward to many great battles in the coming years!

Pointg5 09-25-2006 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by chromer
I'm not a hater. I'm not trying to rain on anyones parade. But I have to mention that I watched a different game than the one you folks did.

The Bengals were handed a game by an out of sync Pittsburgh "O" that repeatedly turned the ball over. Cincinnati's defense looked good but isn't even the best in their division (see Baltimore). Palmer alternated between brilliant and awful. How is this a formula for an AFC champ?

Three games in would be an early call for a team not demonstrating the problems Cincinnati has. I doubt they get past Baltimore when they play. And Indy? Are you kidding me?

It was an ugly game, but the Bengals made plays to win, that's what good teams do...Baltimore's D is good, but their O is still not much better, they should put up way more points on the Browns...The Ravens will not be a problem, two years ago Palmer put up 24 points on them in the 4th quarter and their D is pretty much the same, just a little older...They have not beat a team that has won one game...While the Bengals have gone on the road twice to beat one okay team and the Super Bowl Champs...Believe me Baltimore will be exposed....

somerfrost 09-25-2006 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5
It was an ugly game, but the Bengals made plays to win, that's what good teams do...Baltimore's D is good, but their O is still not much better, they should put up way more points on the Browns...The Ravens will not be a problem, two years ago Palmer put up 24 points on them in the 4th quarter and their D is pretty much the same, just a little older...They have not beat a team that has won one game...While the Bengals have gone on the road twice to beat one okay team and the Super Bowl Champs...Believe me Baltimore will be exposed....

Right now, it looks like a two horse race...Bengals and Colts! Bengals have a huge advantage in the running game, Colts a slight advantage on the defensive side, both have great receivers. I think it will come down to Manning vs Palmer...play 10 games and it could end up 5-5! The Ravens are the unknown factor...that defense is the same but when not forced to play 3/4 of every game, they look a lot more impressive! McNair is still adjusting, he has great receivers (Mason is simply as solid as they come) and a solid and deep running game...they were lucky yesterday (I saw the whole game) but they trust McNair and that's such a big deal for a team that had quarterbacks who should have been in semi-pro ball since Trent...if McNair settles in and they stay injury-free, look for vast improvement in the second half of the season and a solid playoff run!

oracle80 09-25-2006 11:53 AM

The Broncos sure have a defense this year. They've allowed one touchdown in 3 games. Thats not easy to do no matter who you are playing. Too bad they don't have an offense to match it.
Pats just don't have the skill players on offense.
Bengals are a hell of a team. So is San Diego.
But the Colts appear to be a very good team defensively and of course Peyton is Peyton. Colts appear to have some young guys on Offense who may get better as the year goes on. I like the Colts to get it done this year.

Scav 09-25-2006 12:32 PM

Colts are not going to get it done this year either, they have absolutley no running game, and you need that, especially in the playoffs.

Bears/Bengals-Jacksonville Superbowl.....

dalakhani 09-25-2006 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
The Broncos sure have a defense this year. They've allowed one touchdown in 3 games. Thats not easy to do no matter who you are playing. Too bad they don't have an offense to match it.
Pats just don't have the skill players on offense.
Bengals are a hell of a team. So is San Diego.
But the Colts appear to be a very good team defensively and of course Peyton is Peyton. Colts appear to have some young guys on Offense who may get better as the year goes on. I like the Colts to get it done this year.

The colts needed to get it done last year and they didnt. Defensively, it will hinge on corey simon. If he comes back and plays to the level he played at last year then they have a decent shot. If not, they are small and porous and ripe to be manhandled by the more physical teams in the league. Offensively, they will be fine although Peyton isnt the best under fire.

The broncos offense will be fine as well. Javon Walker was a steal and tatum bell is starting to show what he can do.

Cincinnatti looks really tough as does baltimore. Those four teams are my main contenders.

Ruffian2 09-25-2006 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
The Broncos sure have a defense this year. They've allowed one touchdown in 3 games. Thats not easy to do no matter who you are playing. Too bad they don't have an offense to match it.Pats just don't have the skill players on offense.
Bengals are a hell of a team. So is San Diego.
But the Colts appear to be a very good team defensively and of course Peyton is Peyton. Colts appear to have some young guys on Offense who may get better as the year goes on. I like the Colts to get it done this year.

Being an avid Broncos fan, it makes me happy to hear you say that!

Ruffian2 09-25-2006 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
The colts needed to get it done last year and they didnt. Defensively, it will hinge on corey simon. If he comes back and plays to the level he played at last year then they have a decent shot. If not, they are small and porous and ripe to be manhandled by the more physical teams in the league. Offensively, they will be fine although Peyton isnt the best under fire.

The broncos offense will be fine as well. Javon Walker was a steal and tatum bell is starting to show what he can do.

Cincinnatti looks really tough as does baltimore. Those four teams are my main contenders.

Which is comforting, because Smith just ain't what he used to be. The repeated concussions are beginnging to worry me.

somerfrost 09-25-2006 01:41 PM

All I know is now is the time to beat the Ravens...that game yesterday, they kicked a late FG for the come from behind win...it was 52 yards and everyone assumed they would make it! Stover is a great kicker and a wonderful weapon to have! McNair will become more and more confident as the year goes on...he's never had such weapons! If the "O" line can protect him...they will be a very very tough out at playoff time!

SniperSB23 09-25-2006 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
All I know is now is the time to beat the Ravens...that game yesterday, they kicked a late FG for the come from behind win...it was 52 yards and everyone assumed they would make it! Stover is a great kicker and a wonderful weapon to have! McNair will become more and more confident as the year goes on...he's never had such weapons! If the "O" line can protect him...they will be a very very tough out at playoff time!

A) McNair won't stay healthy all year.

B) They kicked a late FG for the come from behind win against Charlie Frye and the Cleveland Browns.

C) They are 3-0 against Tampa Bay, Oakland, and Cleveland who are a combined 0-8.

somerfrost 09-25-2006 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
A) McNair won't stay healthy all year.

B) They kicked a late FG for the come from behind win against Charlie Frye and the Cleveland Browns.

C) They are 3-0 against Tampa Bay, Oakland, and Cleveland who are a combined 0-8.

First of all, I love folks with crystal balls...how do you know McNair won't stay healthy? He's proven to be a warrior and he's modified his game so as not to run nearly as much...every player in the NFL is one hit away from DL but he has as good a chance as any QB not named Favre or Manning to play every game this year!
Secondly...a 52 yard FG isn't any easier based on what team you are playing...and Stover's talent was my point!
Sure they've beaten teams that are 0-8...but that is the sign of a good team, you have to win those games! Cleveland played extremely well yesterday...they will win their share, Winslow is finally healthy and their passing game is better than folks think! Tampa Bay was favored in that game...they lost a heartbreaker yesterday. TB can play with most anybody and are always a tough win! And...as I said in the beginning, McNair is still adjusting to a new team! That "O" will get better and better! This from an avid Redskins fan, I have no horse in this race, I'm simply stating what I consider to be obvious...Bengals and Colts are the best two teams right now but the Jags and the Ravens aren't far behind!

2MinsToPost 09-25-2006 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
The Broncos sure have a defense this year. They've allowed one touchdown in 3 games. Thats not easy to do no matter who you are playing. Too bad they don't have an offense to match it.
Pats just don't have the skill players on offense.
Bengals are a hell of a team. So is San Diego.
But the Colts appear to be a very good team defensively and of course Peyton is Peyton. Colts appear to have some young guys on Offense who may get better as the year goes on. I like the Colts to get it done this year.

My god Mike we agree! Look, Dallas Clark is the most underappreciated player in the NFL right now per the "experts" - talk radio etc. He is the difference maker for our time. Any person who watches every game the Colts play can not disagree. Since I have NFL Ticket I am able to watch them. While teams try and defend Wayne, Harrison, Stokley etc Clark goes up the middle, turns around and catches time and again the game breakers. Then, when they are not looking, Stokley. This new guy we got can run, 1st season in the NFL give him some more time. Rhodes will be ready when the time comes, guy played great last year and went under the radar because of James. Vinaterri will be ok, first game he has missed in 11 seasons - he is a team player unlike Mike V who was out for himself and no one else.

The defense, look I was saying this 2 years ago. It has done nothing but improve. Honestly, I see it this way 3 weeks in. Right now, the Bengals are the best team in the AFC. Second, Colts. NFC it is all Seattle, everyone else is a distant second. None of this matters as we all know cause we have 14 weeks left to play in the regular season. The key is these inter division games - i.e., Colts Jaguars and Bengals Steelers. Throw out last year (Steelers) - homefield advantage is the key. It is gonna be a fun season once again and the AFC is gonna be an all out war from start to finish.

Coach Pants 10-01-2006 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
A) McNair won't stay healthy all year.

B) They kicked a late FG for the come from behind win against Charlie Frye and the Cleveland Browns.

C) They are 3-0 against Tampa Bay, Oakland, and Cleveland who are a combined 0-8.


What do you know about McNair? He led them to a big victory today.

Face it the guy is a champion.

2MinsToPost 10-01-2006 07:08 PM

Patriots are back, look out

BellamyRd. 10-01-2006 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost
Patriots are back, look out

just when you feel it's safe to go back into the water
Bellichek bites you in the keyster
I was afraid of this

Pointg5 10-02-2006 11:15 AM

The Pat's played well and deserved the win, no doubt about it...

The Bengals are in trouble, they have been exposed, they can't stop the run, if you can't stop the run, you are in trouble...

I would like to think if Henry played, they would have scored 2 touchdowns instead of scoring 2 FG's, because he's impossible to cover, he's taller, faster and can jump higher than any corner in the NFL, but who knows if they would have...If the Bengals go up 14-0, maybe it changes the complexion of the game...

They have some injuries and will get back a Line Backer and a Super Bowl MVP in Dexter Jackson, that will help, but probably not enought to make a difference...

Carson is getting sacked alot and looks out of sorts, given his injury, can't say I blame him...

The Bengals only hope is that the Offense kicks in like last year and they keep their Opponents from ramming the ball down their throat, I think they get better, but not enough to make the Playoffs...


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