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Danzig 10-30-2012 03:34 PM

sandy aftermath pics
 
http://www.foxnews.com/weather/slide...ending#slide=1


no telling what the total $ amount will be on this storm. one picture alone has several cars piled up in a flooded area. going to be high. hopefully no more added to the death toll.

Danzig 10-30-2012 03:37 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/massive-storm-...--finance.html

bigrun 10-30-2012 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 899290)
http://www.foxnews.com/weather/slide...ending#slide=1


no telling what the total $ amount will be on this storm. one picture alone has several cars piled up in a flooded area. going to be high. hopefully no more added to the death toll.

Brutal..not finished yet...amazing pics..yes, hope no more deaths..
Watched ABC hour long news at 6.30 and CBS from 10-11 last nite and in between the weather channel, haven't watched them in years...on location reporters were in distress...and Stewart had a re-run due to storm and watched a few minutes of Letterman and was just him and his goofy band leader and no audience...

Danzig 10-30-2012 04:18 PM

i have to admit, probably my biggest pet peeve is when stations such as the weather channel send reporters to stand out in the storms to do reports.

what the hell purpose does that serve? you're telling people it's a serious storm, seek shelter...and then you send a crew in harms way. that makes no sense at all to me. do we really need to see someone in rain gear getting soaked and blown around to know 'hey, it's a hurricane'?

Riot 10-30-2012 04:23 PM

Revealed today that New Jersey is devastated, both on shore and inland, Chris Christie on Fox this am obviously severely worried, caring about his state and people. Fire burned 80 flooded homes. Manhattan flooded. 38 dead.

Heavy heart for all involved :(

dellinger63 10-30-2012 04:24 PM

Amazing you people are taking Fox at their word?

Riot 10-30-2012 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 899300)
Amazing you people are taking Fox at their word?

:zz: About what? Christie was on Fox this am, highly praising President Obama and the federal response.

The Faux And Fools Idiot asked if Romney was going to do disaster photo-op in New Jersey. Christie said to the Faux Idiot:

Quote:

Gov. Christie took his message to Fox News and praised the President saying that Obama had helped “tremendously.” He went on to add:

“I spoke to the president three times yesterday,” “He called me for the last time at midnight last night asking what he could do. I said, if you can expedite designating New Jersey as a major disaster area that that would help us to get federal money and resources in here as quickly as possible to help clean up the damage here.”

“The president was great last night,” “He said he would get it done. At 2 a.m., I got a call from FEMA to answer a couple of final questions and then he signed the declaration this morning. So I have to give the president great credit. He’s been on the phone with me three times in the last 24 hours. He’s been very attentive, and anything that I’ve asked for, he’s gotten to me. So, I thank the president publicly for that. He’s done — as far as I’m concerned — a great job for New Jersey.”
When asked if Romney will come to NJ do the disaster photo-op tour, Christie said of Romney:

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“I have no idea, nor am I the least bit concerned or interested,” Christie replied, immediately shutting down the idea. “I’ve got a job to do here in New Jersey that’s much bigger than presidential politics and I could [sic] care less about any of that stuff.”

“I have a job to do,” “I’ve got 2.4 million people out of power, I’ve got devastation on the shore, I’ve got floods in the northern part of my state. If you think right now I give a damn about presidential politics then you don’t know me.”
Video here:

http://youtu.be/Uu2SJbmhu2I

hoovesupsideyourhead 10-30-2012 05:50 PM

i give him kudos..he told the public that obama did a good job.on this front..but he stands by his support for romney..further keeping it real.

bigrun 10-30-2012 07:02 PM

Powerful Article ... non-political

Watching New York City drown



In 2005, Aaron Naparstek, a writer with the New York Press, published a remarkably prescient piece about the vulnerability of New York City to hurricanes, the flooding that would result along the hundreds of miles of shoreline in the five boroughs—with the water filling the sea-level interior flatlands and washing over the reclaimed swamps of Brooklyn—and the ill-prepared psychology of “a complacent coastal city” where the ocean is not thought of as a threat. Naparstek observed that in fact New York “is behind only Miami and New Orleans on the list of U.S. cities most likely to suffer a major hurricane disaster.” He cited meteorologists and disaster planners with the city’s Office of Emergency of Management who were in consensus “that the metropolitan region is due for a big one. Overdue, in fact.” Mike Lee, then Director of Watch Command at the OEM, told Naparstek that the worst-case hurricane scenario for New York City—in which 30 feet or more of storm surge sweeps over the city in a category 3 storm event—“gives emergency managers serious gastrointestinal distress.” Nicholas Coch, a professor of coastal geology at Queens College, said “The New York City area is the worst possible place for a hurricane to make a landfall.”

http://www.salon.com/2012/10/30/watc...rk_city_drown/

Antitrust32 10-31-2012 10:17 AM

what a crazy storm. I never really would imagine seeing pictures like I have of the places I spent my childhood. My brother was in hoboken, four feet of water surrounding his apartment (he's fine).

Kudos to the President, Governer Christie, and the mayor of NY, for a job well done so far.

bigrun 10-31-2012 11:07 AM

Side note..When was the last time the stock market closed for two consecutive days....1884...wow...

Clip-Clop 10-31-2012 11:56 AM

Just spoke with a good friend of mine that still lives "at the shore" (we never used that terminology growing up) and he said that Bay Head and Mantoloking, two very nice old beach towns are still completely under water and what isnt under water is on fire due to a gas leak that they cannot shut down because the valves are under sand or water. I built about 15 homes on those beaches before I moved, they are all destroyed or washed away completely. Very sad.

Riot 10-31-2012 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 899411)
Just spoke with a good friend of mine that still lives "at the shore" (we never used that terminology growing up) and he said that Bay Head and Mantoloking, two very nice old beach towns are still completely under water and what isnt under water is on fire due to a gas leak that they cannot shut down because the valves are under sand or water. I built about 15 homes on those beaches before I moved, they are all destroyed or washed away completely. Very sad.

Sorry to hear that. That must hurt.

I understand the waters are horribly contaminated with gasoline, diesel, etc. and people who stayed back are still being asked to evacuate due to risk of fire.

Bigsmc 10-31-2012 02:06 PM

Breezy Point, Queens photo from the air.

http://www.businessinsider.com/breez...-photo-2012-10

Riot 10-31-2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 899444)
Breezy Point, Queens photo from the air.

http://www.businessinsider.com/breez...-photo-2012-10

:eek: :( :{>:

Cannon Shell 10-31-2012 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 899400)
what a crazy storm. I never really would imagine seeing pictures like I have of the places I spent my childhood. My brother was in hoboken, four feet of water surrounding his apartment (he's fine).

Kudos to the President, Governer Christie, and the mayor of NY, for a job well done so far.

I think it very much premature to give kudos to anyone yet.

Riot 10-31-2012 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 899449)
I think it very much premature to give kudos to anyone yet.

:zz: The federal and state responses from the 10 governors so far have been without complaint. What is yours?

Cannon Shell 10-31-2012 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 899452)
:zz: The federal and state responses from the 10 governors so far have been without complaint. What is yours?

Just keep believing that Obama, Christie and Bloomberg are doing a fantastic job because they are telling you that they are.

Cannon Shell 10-31-2012 02:55 PM

http://gothamist.com/2012/10/31/outr...zone_a_dis.php

Antitrust32 10-31-2012 02:56 PM

whatever

so far they've been doing everything they can. Unless Christie bends over and starts chugging water.

The responses have been good.

Cannon Shell 10-31-2012 03:00 PM

http://www.northjersey.com/news/stat...d_Hoboken.html

hoovesupsideyourhead 10-31-2012 03:04 PM

lots of looting going on..national guard should have shoot on sight order..

Antitrust32 10-31-2012 03:05 PM

my brother is in hoboken. they got it bad.

he says the whole town smells like crap, literally, and there are dangerous downed powerlines. He walked 20 minutes to the ferry today to get into Manhattan for work... said manhattan is a ghost town.

Antitrust32 10-31-2012 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 899470)
lots of looting going on..national guard should have shoot on sight order..

:zz:

Cannon Shell 10-31-2012 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 899467)
whatever

so far they've been doing everything they can. Unless Christie bends over and starts chugging water.

The responses have been good.

They have been doing everything they can? You know this how? Perhaps this is true but you dont know anymore than what you are being told.

Christie is a very good politician. He started campaining for President as the Hurricane hit. Obama couldnt wait to get here for the photo op. Bloomburg is running a marathon on Sunday while hundreds of thousands in his city are without power and food.

The idea that they should get any credit is way premature as things can get very dicey especially since it is getting cold at night and there are a few million people w/o power.

hoovesupsideyourhead 10-31-2012 03:08 PM

http://www.2004hurricanes.com/misc-ivan-photos.html

we in the south have a healthy respect for hurricanes..this is what my town looked like in 04

no electricity for 2 weeks..problem was the temps were 100 degrees..not sure what would be worse..heat or cold after..

Antitrust32 10-31-2012 03:10 PM

what more would you like them to do.

its not like you can snap your fingers and have the whole mess fixed. the national guard is doing what they can, the funds were appropriated almost immediately.

come on now. a LOT more deaths could have occurred here. I mean, look at this devistation. a lot more.

hoovesupsideyourhead 10-31-2012 03:15 PM

yes the word got out and people did what they could .its far from over.politicly obama knew he had to have a 's' on his chest when it came to nj s christie. if he didnt christie would fry him..

Cannon Shell 10-31-2012 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 899475)
what more would you like them to do.

its not like you can snap your fingers and have the whole mess fixed. the national guard is doing what they can, the funds were appropriated almost immediately.

come on now. a LOT more deaths could have occurred here. I mean, look at this devistation. a lot more.

So what do they deserve praise for? I mean what else would you expect them to do or say? I know people in N. NJ who have no power, roads, nothing is open, they have no food and they have yet to see a single official vehicle or person in an official capacity. Praising those three now is like saying the starting pitcher had a great game after the 1st inning.

hoovesupsideyourhead 10-31-2012 03:21 PM

i just spoke to a friend whos in new jersey doing a re wind on a generator..they are sending people home.the roof blew off of the powerplant..i see power bieng out in some parts for a month.that sucks.

hoovesupsideyourhead 10-31-2012 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 899478)
So what do they deserve praise for? I mean what else would you expect them to do or say? I know people in N. NJ who have no power, roads, nothing is open, they have no food and they have yet to see a single official vehicle or person in an official capacity. Praising those three now is like saying the starting pitcher had a great game after the 1st inning.

re visit this in three weeks..

Cannon Shell 10-31-2012 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 899477)
yes the word got out and people did what they could .its far from over.politicly obama knew he had to have a 's' on his chest when it came to nj s christie. if he didnt christie would fry him..

Obama showing up isnt going to do anything but get attention for Obama but the President should make an appearance. Christie is going out of his way to praise Obama to show how bi-partisan he can be and how wonderful he handles a crisis. More or less he is using a disaster to promote his political virtues.

The correct response would have been "I have been in contact with the President and the Fed Gov't is committed to helping us in anyway that they can." Cristie has gone out of his way to praise Obama in a very public manner, on virtually every occasion that he gets his mug on TV.

We are about to get an Obama/Cristie press conference on tv. Of course the people who need the help wont be able to see it.

hoovesupsideyourhead 10-31-2012 03:35 PM

your right mugging for the camera isnt getting water and food to the people..

Riot 10-31-2012 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 899463)
Just keep believing that Obama, Christie and Bloomberg are doing a fantastic job because they are telling you that they are.

Well, no, you assume wrongly. I'm judging by comments from people affected on Twitter and Facebook. Social media gets you right to the sources more quickly.

This is a huge tragedy/disaster, and yeah, so far so good. Proud of Christie and the other govs for being proactive. Nobody is saying there are not people without water, food, etc.today - but they are just wrapping up search and rescue.

Riot 10-31-2012 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 899468)

Hoboken yesterday afternoon was trying to use two town-owned payloaders, the only vehicles the town had to get through the high water, along narrow streets, to rescue 20,000 people. They had no expectation they would flood, nobody was evacuated. The call went out to National Guard for troops and vehicles, and they were flown in immediately last night.

Pretty outstanding response. You and Hooves can keep dissing it, and politicizing it with your typical targets of dislike and pettiness, but that seems pretty wrong and unfair. You guys go ahead and bitch and moan without me. It's completely absurd. I'll wait until tomorrow, when you two are angry that the subways are not drained and all the power isn't back on yet. Good grief.

hoovesupsideyourhead 10-31-2012 04:16 PM

im not dissing anything.. its a sad state of affairs..i hope the people do the best they can.and noone asked for your comment riot..and its you that will be sad when obama the great loses the election..

Riot 10-31-2012 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 899491)
im not dissing anything.. its a sad state of affairs..i hope the people do the best they can.and noone asked for your comment riot..and its you that will be sad when obama the great loses the election..

Yeah, I can take offense at your constant dissing of the President, even if you didn't ask. Get over yourself.

Enjoy your last 6 days in the Derby Trail politics section ;)

hoovesupsideyourhead 10-31-2012 04:45 PM

i wish your power was out.

Riot 10-31-2012 04:49 PM

Here is video of the entire Christie-Obama press conference this afternoon:

http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2012...rricane-sandy/

dellinger63 10-31-2012 04:54 PM

Romney donated a million to the Red Cross today!

Obama got a free sandwich from the Red Cross and said it was great.

Total loss at $50 Billion is nothing.

The U.S. taxpayer is down that just with the GM stock we're still waiting to go up.


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