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tywizard 10-25-2012 12:34 PM

Wagering Strategy for Breeders Cup
 
What will be your wagering approach to the Breeders Cup days?

I realize strategies are dependent upon bankroll...

I will likely play rolling pick 3's by singling my top horse in the first leg. Thoughts on this approach?

Dahoss 10-25-2012 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tywizard (Post 898235)
What will be your wagering approach to the Breeders Cup days?

I realize strategies are dependent upon bankroll...

I will likely play rolling pick 3's by singling my top horse in the first leg. Thoughts on this approach?

What if you have good opinions, but your 2nd choice ends up winning a lot of the races? Won't you be kind of hurting yourself by just singling your top choice in the first leg of all pick 3's?

MaTH716 10-25-2012 12:46 PM

These are the best two days to cast your nets wider than usual and hope to catch the big one.

knickslions2 10-25-2012 12:46 PM

Betting singles and daily doubles. I have a hard enough picking the winner in one race never mind three straight :)

joeydb 10-25-2012 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 898247)
These are the best two days to cast your nets wider than usual and hope to catch the big one.

I agree.

jms62 10-25-2012 01:00 PM

Really wide as you can get your share of 5 to 10 K Pick 3's.

I usually have a very wide ticket and a $5 concentrated ticket and have no problems spending 200 per Pick 3. You can get some 5-10 K Pick 3's come Breeders cup day and some 800+ doubles too.

Calzone Lord 10-25-2012 01:07 PM

Wagering strategy should always depend on how you view the race and series of races in a sequence as a whole.

Having a generic approach before you have opinions and theories on a race is never a good idea.

I'm never a big fan of excessive spreading.

hoovesupsideyourhead 10-25-2012 01:07 PM

play the pick 4s single when you have one and win place on your strongest value plays..save money for beer..

richard 10-25-2012 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 898258)
Wagering strategy should always depend on how you view the race and series of races in a sequence as a whole.

Having a generic approach before you have opinions and theories on a race is never a good idea.

I'm never a big fan of excessive spreading.

I agree. Excessive spreading means you should pass on the bet. Try a quick pick instead.

Dahoss 10-25-2012 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by richard (Post 898272)
I agree. Excessive spreading means you should pass on the bet. Try a quick pick instead.

Oy vey...a quick pick?

jms62 10-25-2012 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by richard (Post 898272)
I agree. Excessive spreading means you should pass on the bet. Try a quick pick instead.

Couldn't disagree with you more. Its not a Monday at Parx. You have huge fields, many horses that can win, massive pools and you get massive payouts. You spread and catch the 40-1 horse that blows up the Pick 3 to 10K.

Clip-Clop 10-25-2012 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tywizard (Post 898235)
What will be your wagering approach to the Breeders Cup days?

I realize strategies are dependent upon bankroll...

I will likely play rolling pick 3's by singling my top horse in the first leg. Thoughts on this approach?

I have tried my hardest to stick with this plan. 2 or 3 in a row going the wrong way (usually the hard way too) and I get discouraged and go back to mixing things up a lot. Sometimes it goes well others not so much.
I do think the theory gives you the most winnable options with the best shot at collecting though. Especially if you catch that one animal at the right time.

fantini33 10-25-2012 02:46 PM

Going narrow where most tickets will be deep and deep where most tickets will be going narrow is my approach. Beating short prices on days like these are 10x more valuable than usual because of all the casual money being bet. IMO. It has worked for me in the past so I stick with this type of approach.

richard 10-25-2012 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 898274)
Oy vey...a quick pick?

A dollar here, a dollar there, you may get lucky. In addition to your handicapping.

Calzone Lord 10-25-2012 02:59 PM

Anyone who asks for a quick pick is playing the wrong game.

TheSpyder 10-25-2012 03:08 PM

My strategy will be to pick the horse that reached the finish line before the rest of the other horses.

Danzig 10-25-2012 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder (Post 898316)
My strategy will be to pick the horse that reached the finish line before the rest of the other horses.

great strategy!!

asudevil 10-25-2012 03:20 PM

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Danzig 10-25-2012 04:36 PM

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cal828 10-25-2012 05:10 PM

Don't have much of a bankroll, so probably will just be playing the last 4 races on Saturday unless, of course, I succumb to temptation which is fairly likely. This was my plan last year and it quickly went to hell in a handbag.

MaTH716 10-25-2012 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cal828 (Post 898357)
Don't have much of a bankroll, so probably will just be playing the last 4 races on Saturday unless, of course, I succumb to temptation which is fairly likely. This was my plan last year and it quickly went to hell in a handbag.

Why wait? Try to find the race/sequance that you feel like you have the best opinion in and hopefully you hit.

cal828 10-25-2012 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 898365)
Why wait? Try to find the race/sequance that you feel like you have the best opinion in and hopefully you hit.

I think that the races on Saturday will be more formful and I will be more familiar with the horses in the races that I mentioned and therefore, those are the races in which I may have the best opinion. I will probably scan the other races, but unless I see something glaring, I think I will confine may play to Saturday, but who knows, I am probably lying to myself. Hard to stay on the sidelines.

santana 10-25-2012 09:45 PM

Looks like a pretty playable pik 6 and pik 4 this year. AND IF I AM ALIVE EITHER ...WHICH I PROBABLY WONT BE ...LOL...dude is a single on the end...

goodcopy 10-25-2012 10:36 PM

Early Stab @ Small Late pick 4/Spread Late Pick 4
 
Small Late Pick 4
Race#9= POINT OF ENTRY/ST NICHOLAS ABBEY/THE FUGUE/TRAILBLAZER
Race#10=AMAZOMBIE/EMCEE/FAST BULLET
Race#11=EXCELEBRATION/WISE DAN
Race#12=GAME ON DUDE/
@.50 per=$12.00
Late Spread Pick 4
Race#9= POINT OF ENTRY/ST NICHOLAS ABBEY/THE FUGUE/TRAILBLAZER/TREASURE BEACH/SHARETA/LITTLE MIKE/DULLAHAN/
Race#10=AMAZOMBIE/EMCEE/FAST BULLET/TRINNIBERG/THE LUMBER GUY/SUM OF THE PARTS/SECOND CITY/COIL
Race#11=EXCELEBRATION/WISE DAN/WILLCOX INN/TURBO COMPRESSOR/TRAILBLAZER/OBVIOUSLY/MOONLIGHT CLOUD/LITTLE MIKE
Race#12=GAME ON DUDE/RON THE GREEK/FORT LARNED

@$.50per=$762.00 for all combos(Not the way you would play a "Spead Ticket I.E."TicketMaker" by Daily Racingform):tro::eek::zz:

RockHardTen1985 10-25-2012 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by goodcopy (Post 898441)
Small Late Pick 4
Race#9= POINT OF ENTRY/ST NICHOLAS ABBEY/THE FUGUE/TRAILBLAZER
Race#10=AMAZOMBIE/EMCEE/FAST BULLET
Race#11=EXCELEBRATION/WISE DAN
Race#12=GAME ON DUDE/
@.50 per=$12.00
Late Spread Pick 4
Race#9= POINT OF ENTRY/ST NICHOLAS ABBEY/THE FUGUE/TRAILBLAZER/TREASURE BEACH/SHARETA/LITTLE MIKE/DULLAHAN/
Race#10=AMAZOMBIE/EMCEE/FAST BULLET/TRINNIBERG/THE LUMBER GUY/SUM OF THE PARTS/SECOND CITY/COIL
Race#11=EXCELEBRATION/WISE DAN/WILLCOX INN/TURBO COMPRESSOR/TRAILBLAZER/OBVIOUSLY/MOONLIGHT CLOUD/LITTLE MIKE
Race#12=GAME ON DUDE/RON THE GREEK/FORT LARNED

@$.50per=$762.00 for all combos(Not the way you would play a "Spead Ticket I.E."TicketMaker" by Daily Racingform):tro::eek::zz:

Dullahan has no shot to win any race that he is entered in. Same w/ Little Mike. Triniberg? Another toss for me. Treasure Beach, another toss.
That saves you a few bucks.

Port Conway Lane 10-25-2012 11:19 PM

Treasure Beach/little Mike/dullahan/
Trinniberg/
All/
All

RockHardTen1985 10-25-2012 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane (Post 898444)
Treasure Beach/little Mike/dullahan/
Trinniberg/
All/
All

Ill donate $100 to any charity of your choice if any of those horses run even 1-2.

Port Conway Lane 10-25-2012 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 898445)
Ill donate $100 to any charity of your choice if any of those horses run even 1-2.

Permanently Disabled Jockeys Fund
www.pdjf.org

RockHardTen1985 10-26-2012 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane (Post 898446)
Permanently Disabled Jockeys Fund
www.pdjf.org

Deal.

pmayjr 10-26-2012 12:49 AM

I did pretty well last year with a limited bankroll (like $300). I was putting $10 and $20 WP bets on longshots, playing $2 exacta boxes with 3-4 horses depending on the race. And played a few trifectas in deep races where I thought I could get ambitious. Turned $300 into $900 by the end of the weekend. Hitting Wrote and Drosslemeyer win bets had a lot to do with it. I didn't hit any of my homerun bets, but the wins were still healthy.

I've never been much of a pick3/pick4 player, and won't be on BC Weekend. The BC Mile result just shows how that can go in the tank so fast.

RockHardTen1985 10-26-2012 06:00 AM

My plan is to get up to the racino around 11am. Crush Aqueduct and have an even better bankroll for the Cup races.
3-3-3 $1 pick 3's. 2-2 $5-10$ doubles pressing the horses I like most in the pick 3's. Thats my plan.
Anyone going up to Saratoga can hang with yours truly.

Danzig 10-26-2012 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 898445)
Ill donate $100 to any charity of your choice if any of those horses run even 1-2.

and a man of his word will certainly not fail to do so if the money comes due.

:rolleyes:

RockHardTen1985 10-26-2012 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 898467)
and a man of his word will certainly not fail to do so if the money comes due.

:rolleyes:


This is different. Ill tell you what, since you have always had issue with me.....Ill send you the money if any of those horses run 1-2.

Danzig 10-26-2012 06:57 AM

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tanner12oz 10-26-2012 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 898247)
These are the best two days to cast your nets wider than usual and hope to catch the big one.

^^^^^THIS

seriously 100 picks 3's 500 pick 4's....take the shot...its cup day =) money there for the taking but ya gotta spread because its always a challenging card

tanner12oz 10-26-2012 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by richard (Post 898272)
I agree. Excessive spreading means you should pass on the bet. Try a quick pick instead.

spreading is the only way to score the $100 horses on top...seriously whose betting those as there "top selection"??

tanner12oz 10-26-2012 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 898461)
My plan is to get up to the racino around 11am. Crush Aqueduct and have an even better bankroll for the Cup races.
3-3-3 $1 pick 3's. 2-2 $5-10$ doubles pressing the horses I like most in the pick 3's. Thats my plan.
Anyone going up to Saratoga can hang with yours truly.

lol this plan never works...cant tell you how many times i have gotten crushed the day before a triple crown race because i was "padding the roll for tomorrow"

casp0555 10-26-2012 11:36 AM

I heard this strategy on Talkin' Horses one day, I believe it was Dave Litfin that said "Bet small, Win Big!!" which was countered by Andy "Bet Big, Win Huge!!". I could try these simple suggestions but problem is.....I dont ever win :( I think I will stick with flippin' a coin :D

Dahoss 10-26-2012 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tanner12oz (Post 898489)
spreading is the only way to score the $100 horses on top...seriously whose betting those as there "top selection"??

People who bet their top selection to win? If you like a horse, who cares how high the odds are?

Indian Charlie 10-26-2012 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 898524)
People who bet their top selection to win? If you like a horse, who cares how high the odds are?

There is a common perception among horseplayers that if a horse they like is too high in odds, something must be wrong with it.

That whole dead on the board thing.

I stopped doing that the first (and only) time I talked myself off a $50 winner.


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