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Riot 10-23-2012 08:12 PM

Obama - not liked internationally?
 
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... if the world had its say, this election would be a blowout favoring the incumbent.

That's according to a BBC World Service poll taken in 21 countries. It found for the most part, foreign countries preferred Obama.

The only exception was Pakistan where more people said they preferred Romney.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...andslide?sc=tw



Riot 10-23-2012 08:18 PM

Maybe, the preference for Obama is due to Romney having demonstrated the same international geography knowledge as Sarah Palin:


Rudeboyelvis 10-23-2012 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 897831)

NPR.....LOLOLOLOLOL

geeker2 10-23-2012 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 897836)
NPR.....LOLOLOLOLOL

Just one more reason to vote for Romney:tro:

Rudeboyelvis 10-23-2012 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 897842)
Just one more reason to vote for Romney:tro:

Considering Romney has already said that their lefty bent should not be tax-payer funded...Color me shocked :eek:

I anticipate Sesame Street will provide her next chart :D

Calzone Lord 10-23-2012 09:47 PM

That chart is not surprising and I'm sure is an accurate reflection.

If anyone remembers the Bush VS Gore election -- pretty much every country in the world preferred Gore by insane margins even wider than those.

Our democratic politicians come across as conservatives to the rest of the world ... and our republican politicians come across as wildly deranged and unstable psychopaths to the rest of the world.

Imagine if you live in another country -- and you hear Romney talk about how we need a larger Navy. Our military is laughably stronger than everyone elses and we spend money on defense like we're about to be invaded by some aliens who have superior firepower.

Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize and he's a certified war criminal.

dagolfer33 10-23-2012 09:53 PM

Of course all of these countries want Obama to be Prez, you forgot to include Venezuela @ 80-90%. He is doing everything in his power economically to lower us to all of these countries standards.:zz:

bigrun 10-23-2012 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 897849)
That chart is not surprising and I'm sure is an accurate reflection.

If anyone remembers the Bush VS Gore election -- pretty much every country in the world preferred Gore by insane margins even wider than those.

Our democratic politicians come across as conservatives to the rest of the world ... and our republican politicians come across as wildly deranged and unstable psychopaths to the rest of the world.

Imagine if you live in another country -- and you hear Romney talk about how we need a larger Navy. Our military is laughably stronger than everyone elses and we spend money on defense like we're about to be invaded by some aliens who have superior firepower.

Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize and he's a certified war criminal.


And they were on target..and if not for his brother's state, no recount,hanging chads and SCOTUS there would never have been a president g w bush...

Calzone Lord 10-23-2012 10:44 PM

The people who live in foreign countries feel threatened by any American president or wanna be American president who believes in a God in the sky and is the commander and chief of a military that can wipe everyone off the face of the planet.

There are some born again Christians and Mormons who would be just fine with an apocalypse.

Danzig 10-24-2012 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 897859)
The people who live in foreign countries feel threatened by any American president or wanna be American president who believes in a God in the sky and is the commander and chief of a military that can wipe everyone off the face of the planet.

There are some born again Christians and Mormons who would be just fine with an apocalypse.

:tro:

joeydb 10-24-2012 09:20 AM

If France likes Obama, that's reason enough for him to go.

Riot 10-24-2012 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 897849)
Our democratic politicians come across as conservatives to the rest of the world ... and our republican politicians come across as wildly deranged and unstable psychopaths to the rest of the world.

:tro: Precisely.

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The people who live in foreign countries feel threatened by any American president or wanna be American president who believes in a God in the sky and is the commander and chief of a military that can wipe everyone off the face of the planet.

There are some born again Christians and Mormons who would be just fine with an apocalypse.
Yes, some are counting the days. Sarah Palin. Michelle Bachmann. Mitt Romney. Rick Santorum. Their love of Israel lies strictly within their own religion's teachings.

Riot 10-24-2012 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 897836)
NPR.....LOLOLOLOLOL

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Considering Romney has already said that their lefty bent should not be tax-payer funded...Color me shocked

I anticipate Sesame Street will provide her next chart
Psst ... you might want to actually read the thread. It was the BBC who did the poll. Not NPR ;) NPR had nothing to do with it.

Riot 10-24-2012 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 897855)
And they were on target..and if not for his brother's state, no recount,hanging chads and SCOTUS there would never have been a president g w bush...

A few hundred votes ahead, popular vote won, and the Supreme Court ordered vote counting to stop and declared the other guy the winner.

And there never would be 57,000 dead in Iraq. Or trillions in debt.

Clip-Clop 10-24-2012 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 897896)
A few hundred votes ahead, popular vote won, and the Supreme Court ordered vote counting to stop and declared the other guy the winner.

And there never would be 57,000 dead in Iraq. Or trillions in debt.

What would Al Gore have done on September 12, 2001?

You have no answer, no one does, not even Al Gore, so determining anything after that date is just more nonsense out of you.

Riot 10-24-2012 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 897941)
What would Al Gore have done on September 12, 2001?

You have no answer, no one does, not even Al Gore, so determining anything after that date is just more nonsense out of you.

I would guess, based upon Gores' statements and actions in the past, he wouldn't have pulled a Bush and ignored the warning about Sept 11 in the first place.

Let alone go on to invade a country that had nothing the hell to do with it, killing thousands of Americans and citizens for nothing.

And your pretending it wouldn't have been different under a different president is just more ridiculous nonsense out of you. Go vote for Romney and get your Social Security and Medicare taken away, while you pay for his tax cuts and send our children to die in Iran for Bibi.

Clip-Clop 10-24-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 897949)
I would guess, based upon Gores' statements and actions in the past, he wouldn't have pulled a Bush and ignored the warning about Sept 11 in the first place.

Let alone go on to invade a country that had nothing the hell to do with it, killing thousands of Americans and citizens for nothing.

And your pretending it wouldn't have been different under a different president is just more ridiculous nonsense out of you. Go vote for Romney and get your Social Security and Medicare taken away, while you pay for his tax cuts and send our children to die in Iran for Bibi.

Gores' statements and actions in the past? What exactly do you mean?
Read an actual book as opposed to blog posts and theories/rhetoric about 9/11 warnings, I suggest Ghost Wars, http://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Wars-Afg.../dp/1594200076 you might actually learn something as opposed to parroting whatever nonsense you read in the newspaper or internet.
I am 37, SS and Medicare are things I will continue to pay for and never see.

Riot 10-24-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 897958)
Gores' statements and actions in the past? What exactly do you mean?

That my guess about what would have happened in the world under a Gore presidency is exactly as accurate as your guess.

But envisioning an American invasion of Iraq for no reason shouldn't have remotely be on anybody's radar screen - and wasn't even in the Bush presidency. Even after 9/11. It took Bush a while to use 9/11 as an excuse to invade Iraq.

Yes - I feel pretty damn confident saying that an Al Gore presidency would not have involved an invasion of Iraq and the deaths of thousands of Americans in that country.

Clip-Clop 10-24-2012 12:14 PM

Try this one too, might give you some insight into the middle east.
http://www.onlythingworthdyingfor.com/
I have both in paper copies and will happily mail them to you if you promise to read them before the election.

Clip-Clop 10-24-2012 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 897961)
That my guess about what would have happened in the world under a Gore presidency is exactly as accurate as your guess.

Guessing is all we have. Gore included.

Antitrust32 10-24-2012 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 897949)
I would guess, based upon Gores' statements and actions in the past, he wouldn't have pulled a Bush and ignored the warning about Sept 11 in the first place.

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Yeah, we all know how tough Gore's boss (Clinton) was on Bin Laden.. and that 9/11 planning occured on Both Clinton/Gore and Bush/Cheney watch.

another completely ignorant statement by riot.

Riot 10-24-2012 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 897967)
Yeah, we all know how tough Gore's boss (Clinton) was on Bin Laden.. and that 9/11 planning occured on Both Clinton/Gore and Bush/Cheney watch.

another completely ignorant statement by riot.

LOL - Not as ignorant as you saying Gore would behave based upon how Bill Clinton did.

Seriously - when you guys attack another poster in politics personally and call names (because you can't talk subject matter objectively) it really helps if you're not actually demonstrating the behavior you are accusing the other person of doing at the time you make the accusation.

BTW, Clinton seriously warned Bush about bin Laden, didn't he? And Bush just dropped that ball. Repeatedly.

Get real Facts matter.

Antitrust32 10-24-2012 12:35 PM

Clinton should have done his job and got bin Laden when he had the opportunity.

again, the only thing dems and riot have to go on is blaming bush.

"So we tried to be quite aggressive with them [al Qaeda]. We got – well, Mr. bin Laden used to live in Sudan. He was expelled from Saudi Arabia in 1991, then he went to Sudan. And we’d been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with them again. They released him. At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America. So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, ’cause they could have. But they thought it was a hot potato and they didn’t and that’s how he wound up in Afghanistan."

this is a direct quote from Bill Clinton himself.

Riot 10-24-2012 12:40 PM

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Antitrust32;897974]Clinton should have done his job and got bin Laden when he had the opportunity.

again, the only thing dems and riot have to go on is blaming bush
:zz: Nobody is "blaming Bush" for anything. Don't insert talking points that don't even apply :D

The premise of this part of the thread was that voting matters. Elections matter.

Example: Gore won the popular vote, but the Supreme Court stopped the vote re-count while Gore was ahead in the count, and made Bush the winner of the election.

Elections have consequences. Thousands dead in Iraq, sent there by Bush. Those are facts. Bush did that. That's not "blame", that's just reality.

Antitrust32 10-24-2012 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 897976)
Don't insert talking points that don't even apply :D

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did you.... the queen... really just say this!!

wow!

joeydb 10-24-2012 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 897976)
Elections have consequences.

We know. We're still suffering them, and the healing begins when Romney wins on November 6th.

Antitrust32 10-24-2012 12:43 PM

the American Government... composed of democrats and republicans alike, and led by george bush, sent the troops to Iraq. It's been a bipartisan war.


But you knew that.

Dahoss 10-24-2012 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 897979)
We know. We're still suffering them, and the healing begins when Romney wins on November 6th.

You seem so confident. How come you didn't take Riot up on her offer yesterday?

Riot 10-24-2012 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 897977)
did you.... the queen... really just say this!!

wow!

Yes, I see you don't really want to talk about why elections matter, you rather want to start personal fights with people you dislike.

Carry on without me.

Antitrust32 10-24-2012 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 897983)
Yes, I see you don't really want to talk about why elections matter, you rather want to start personal fights with people you dislike.

Carry on without me.

carrying on without you is the only reason i might vote Romney for President.

Riot 10-24-2012 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 897982)
You seem so confident. How come you didn't take Riot up on her offer yesterday?

I'll also hazard a guess that, after Obama wins, all we'll hear from certain members of this board is "but Romney was way ahead! The Democrats stole the election!"

Riot 10-24-2012 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 897984)
carrying on without you is the only reason i might vote Romney for President.

Because voting out of personal spite you have against a person you don't know on an internet message board, voting for a man who says you do not deserve the rights I have and will actively work to keep you there without those rights, is so intelligent?

Yeah - if you are going to vote out of personal spite against a stranger, rather than for the candidate you think will best represent your interests, please, stay home with the rest of the non-voters. You don't deserve to exercise the franchise.

Don't worry - I'm voting for your rights. Maybe you'll be lucky and retain them, in spite of voting against yourself.

joeydb 10-24-2012 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 897982)
You seem so confident. How come you didn't take Riot up on her offer yesterday?

I like to gamble on horses. This banishment thing is not my kind of game. Kind of puts a negative spin on what should be free-wheeling discussion. But they are all adults and willing participants who thought of it on their own, so if that's what the want to do, have at it.

Antitrust32 10-24-2012 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 897986)
Because voting out of personal spite you have against a person you don't know on an internet message board, voting for a man who says you do not deserve the rights I have and will actively work to keep you there, is so intelligent?

honestly, it is BY FAR the best reason to vote for either Romney or Obama given in this entire election process.

Antitrust32 10-24-2012 12:52 PM

the banishment of Riot will have a much greater affect on my day to day life than who is elected in November... especially since i believe romney and obama to be one in the same.

Riot 10-24-2012 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 897992)
the banishment of Riot will have a much greater affect on my day to day life than who is elected in November... especially since i believe romney and obama to be one in the same.

If you honestly conflate not reading a poster you don't like on an internet board with being the same as losing your right to marry who you choose ... God help this country.

Snooki wins.

And if you think Obama and Romney are "one and the same"?

Yeah. This is why we are an international laughing stock during the Palin-Romney years. Only an American, comfortably not worried about a thing past the end of their nose, would deliberately vote for the man who says she is an abomination that must be prevented from existing.

Dear God.

Antitrust32 10-24-2012 12:57 PM

which right will i retain if Obama wins?? please explain.

the right to have an abortion? not applicable to myself personally. Plus i guarantee 100% that abortion laws will not change in this country if Romney is elected.

the right to get married? first off, nothing to retain there as DOMA is still in effect. Plus, I live in florida.. not happening whether romney or obama is elected.

DADT? Repubs might talk about it.. but that law wont be changing.

Just like Obamacare wont be rescinded even if Romney wins.

Bunch of rhetoric people get caught up in.

Antitrust32 10-24-2012 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 897993)
If you honestly conflate not reading a poster you don't like on an internet board with being the same as losing your right to marry who you choose ... God help this country.
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This is a first..

hey guess what everyone.. Gays and Lesbians are free to get married and be recognized legally by our federal government in Florida!!!


learn something new everyday.

Riot 10-24-2012 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 897994)
which right will i retain if Obama wins?? please explain

the right to have an abortion? not applicable to myself personally. Plus i guarantee 100% that abortion laws will not change in this country if Romney is elected.

the right to get married? first off, nothing to retain there as DOMA is still in effect. Plus, I live in florida.. not happening whether romney or obama is elected.

DADT? Repubs might talk about it.. but that law wont be changing.

Just like Obamacare wont be rescinded even if Romney wins.

Bunch of rhetoric people get caught up in.

Yes. You're right. They are all the same. Why bother yourself about preserving American democracy, such as the rights of gays to serve in the military, of blacks to vote, of you to have an abortion if it doesn't personally apply to you?

Antitrust32 10-24-2012 01:00 PM

Palin-Romney years???

you mean the years that Obama has been president.

invisible man in the sky... please help this riot.


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