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Riot 10-16-2012 06:37 PM

Presidential debate tonight
 
It's about 1 1/2 hours before the debate - be sure to watch. "Town Hall" format with allegedly undecided voters.

Frankly, if you are an undecided voter between Obama and Romney, I think you haven't paid any attention whatsoever to the world at all the past 4 years.

Antitrust32 10-16-2012 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 896365)
Frankly, if you are an undecided voter between Obama and Romney, I think you haven't paid any attention whatsoever to the world at all the past 4 years.

exactly



if you've paid any attention whatsoever to the world at all the past 4 years, it would be damn near impossible to vote for Obama again.

Riot 10-16-2012 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 896367)
exactly

if you've paid any attention whatsoever to the world at all the past 4 years, it would be damn near impossible to vote for Obama again.

You don't like a guy who lowered your taxes, lowered business taxes, saved the country from a depression, lowered the deficit by 3% of GDP, lowered federal spending to the lowest since Reagan, created 5.6 million jobs, gave you healthcare benefits, saved the US auto industry, and removed the anti-gay bias in the military?

Wow - what else did you want in 4 years?

Riot 10-16-2012 07:39 PM

New Romney website
 
After months of not saying the details at Romney's last debate, and at Ryan's debate, there is a website you can go to, to find out all the details of the Romney-Ryan tax plan: how they are going to cut $5 trillion dollars, and how it will be paid for

Here is the site: http://www.romneytaxplan.com/

joeydb 10-16-2012 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 896367)
exactly



if you've paid any attention whatsoever to the world at all the past 4 years, it would be damn near impossible to vote for Obama again.

I wasn't dumb enough to vote for him the first time, but I get your point.

bigrun 10-16-2012 08:57 PM

ROR, love the lady that dragged out Dumya Bush...Romney couldn't shed that crap quick enough...I ain't G Bush he says....:D...bet she was a lib plant...

dagolfer33 10-16-2012 09:40 PM

I like how neither of them really answered the peoples questions.

Ocala Mike 10-16-2012 10:20 PM

Presidential debate tonight
 
Rubber match next week! Could be bloodshed.

jms62 10-17-2012 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 896380)
I wasn't dumb enough to vote for him the first time, but I get your point.

But you were smart enough to vote for a ticket that included Sarah Palin:zz:

joeydb 10-17-2012 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 896407)
But you were smart enough to vote for a ticket that included Sarah Palin:zz:

She had more experience than Obama himself at the time.

McCain tried to out "political-correct" the Democrats. Would have been better to make a merit-based selection, regardless of ethnic background or gender. This is something the libs cannot understand, and the GOP also forgot in 2008.

jms62 10-17-2012 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 896410)
She had more experience than Obama himself at the time.

McCain tried to out "political-correct" the Democrats. Would have been better to make a merit-based selection, regardless of ethnic background or gender. This is something the libs cannot understand, and the GOP also forgot in 2008.

And half his IQ but I guess that isnt important to you.

Antitrust32 10-17-2012 08:55 AM

i also did not vote for Obama 4 years ago.. by again, i meant that Obama has been in office the past 4 years.

That debate last night just reaffirmed my belief that we need a strong third party in this country.

rpncaine 10-17-2012 09:02 AM

:tro:

Coach Pants 10-17-2012 11:41 AM


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bigrun 10-17-2012 02:50 PM


bigrun 10-17-2012 03:08 PM

Game, set, Obama.
The president did exactly what he needed to in tonight's debate: He used Romney against Romney.


Quote:

President Obama did what he needed to do tonight. He took the debate to Mitt Romney. He was relaxed, even jaunty, as he scored one point after another. He seemed to be enjoying himself at Romney’s expense. He looked more comfortable and commanding as the debate wore on, while Romney looked more stiff, edgy, and salesman-like.
Quote:

[Romney helped the president out by making a few unforced errors. Obama was clearly vulnerable on the Benghazi attach. His initial response was not all that persuasive because it ducked the question of who screwed up by failing to honor the request for more security. But then Romney saved Obama’s bacon by alleging that the day after the attack, Obama was still calling it a protest in response to an offensive video.

It fell to moderator Candy Crowley to correct Romney, a too-rare factual intervention by a debate moderator, which knocked Romney totally off his game and diverted attention from the legitimate issue of why more security was not provided. Obama had also missed an opportunity to point out that it was the Republican House that cut the administration’s request for embassy security by $300 million, which could have settled the issue right then and there.


http://www.salon.com/2012/10/17/game_set_obama/

bigrun 10-17-2012 03:17 PM

Mitt Romney’s “binders full of women” .

Quote:

A highlight of last night’s town hall debate (at least for women) was when GOP hopeful Mitt Romney answered voter Katherine Fenton’s question about women inequalities in the workplace. Romney’s response had nothing to do with women’s inequalities, but everything to do with his bizarre quest to find “qualified women” for his campaign, which apparently was so difficult that he had to collect “binders full” of those things called “women.”

http://www.salon.com/2012/10/17/mitt...full_of_women/



joeydb 10-17-2012 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 896504)

If that's all the pro-Obama people have, this race is over.

Rudeboyelvis 10-17-2012 05:07 PM

If Romney had a binder full, Clinton had a Trapper Keeper full :D

bigrun 10-17-2012 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 896532)
If that's all the pro-Obama people have, this race is over.

That's just a taste, plenty more where that came from...and Romney walks like a sissy...:D


Quote:

Imus: “I got a bunch of great topics for ‘Blonde on Blonde’…we’re going to play tape of the way Obama and Romney walk. President Obama walks like he’s Savion Glover…and Romney walks like he’s got something in his butt.”LMAO Dagen makes the observation that “Mitt looks like he’s been carried a lot.” We don’t find anything wrong with that…it does create a job

Danzig 10-17-2012 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 896532)
If that's all the pro-Obama people have, this race is over.

except it isn't all they have. not by a long shot.

Riot 10-17-2012 09:39 PM

The "pro-Obama" people have a president of superior personal likeability that can run on his quite accomplished record.

The RWNJ are in a different world and different reality, running against a different guy, the imaginary super-scary Muslim Kenyan Socialist Communist Obama who will take your guns and reveal his secret agenda to destroy the country of Clint Eastwood's chair.

Who is also ... gasp! .... BLACK!

Fortunately, everyone not a RWNJ knows that guy doesn't even exist.

Too bad Mitt's campaign apparently gets it's information - like about Libya, and Rose Garden press conferences, for instance - from RWNJ sites.

Monday - next debate, foreign policy. Something Mittens knows absolutely zero about.

Mittens should try harder not to be an arrogant, narcissistic bully. His treatment of Crowley lost more women. Press at the debate said the audience actually gasped when he ordered Crowley and the President what to do. He's been arrogant and petulant and a bully every debate. Not presidential timber for sure.

Below is the picture of a man who just got owned by the POTUS and the moderator fact-checking a ridiculous RWNJ conspiracy theory on Libya.

It goes with the picture of his family as angry. You see, as Ann has said, "It's their turn" to be president. How dare Obama not get the hell out of their way.


geeker2 10-18-2012 07:41 AM

let the suicide watch(s) begin..


http://www.gallup.com/poll/158048/ro...ly-voters.aspx

jms62 10-18-2012 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 896573)
The "pro-Obama" people have a president of superior personal likeability that can run on his quite accomplished record.

The RWNJ are in a different world and different reality, running against a different guy, the imaginary super-scary Muslim Kenyan Socialist Communist Obama who will take your guns and reveal his secret agenda to destroy the country of Clint Eastwood's chair.

Who is also ... gasp! .... BLACK!

Fortunately, everyone not a RWNJ knows that guy doesn't even exist.

Too bad Mitt's campaign apparently gets it's information - like about Libya, and Rose Garden press conferences, for instance - from RWNJ sites.

Monday - next debate, foreign policy. Something Mittens knows absolutely zero about.

Mittens should try harder not to be an arrogant, narcissistic bully. His treatment of Crowley lost more women. Press at the debate said the audience actually gasped when he ordered Crowley and the President what to do. He's been arrogant and petulant and a bully every debate. Not presidential timber for sure.

Below is the picture of a man who just got owned by the POTUS and the moderator fact-checking a ridiculous RWNJ conspiracy theory on Libya.

It goes with the picture of his family as angry. You see, as Ann has said, "It's their turn" to be president. How dare Obama not get the hell out of their way.


Mitt needs someone else to do his make-up. Last person I saw looking like that was in a casket.

Antitrust32 10-18-2012 09:52 AM

There goes Riot, race baiting again. Believing that people who want Romney over Obama are racists. Its ABSOLUTELY ridiculous and very telling.

I really hope that when I go to vote in November, that Riot doesnt cross my mind.. because she's the only thing that makes me WANT to vote for Romney.

Riot, you do more harm than good to your Democratic Party.

dellinger63 10-18-2012 09:54 AM

Following Tuesday’s debate we now all know Obama’s grandma worked for a bank starting as a secretary and ending up as a vice president. In obama’s eyes the bank she worked for was biased against women (despite making grandma a VP) and wouldn’t promote them above vice president. Grandma’s job purportedly included training workers that were promoted to higher positions (President, COO and maybe Treasurer) are all I could think of.

My question is what bank was hiring Presidents and COO’s with so little experience they needed to be trained for their job? And how can a Midwest bank, in the 1970’s, who hires a farmer’s wife as a secretary and later promotes her to VP, be considered discriminatory towards women?

Just another woe is me, life’s not fair mantra regurgitated out of the constantly whining POTUS. Similar to most of Obama’s personal stories this seems to also be a bit of a fairytale. Amazing how the President can turn what most would consider an American Success Story into a persecution against his grandma while accusing the same bank that promoted her to Vice President of discrimination for not making her President.

But then again this president has record of maneuvering history to fit his beliefs. Whether it be domestic terrorists being a bigger threat than foreign ones to the top 10% who pay 70% of taxes not paying their fair share. In many cases he simply can’t handle the truth and thus ignores or changes it.

Less than 3 weeks

Danzig 10-18-2012 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 896615)
There goes Riot, race baiting again. Believing that people who want Romney over Obama are racists. Its ABSOLUTELY ridiculous and very telling.

I really hope that when I go to vote in November, that Riot doesnt cross my mind.. because she's the only thing that makes me WANT to vote for Romney.

Riot, you do more harm than good to your Democratic Party.

an example of someone using a character trait they have, and projecting it on others? people do that you know. it's why honest people get ripped off, they think everyone else thinks like they do.

bigrun 10-18-2012 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 896606)
Mitt needs someone else to do his make-up. Last person I saw looking like that was in a casket.


ROR..

bigrun 10-21-2012 11:21 AM

Ain't that datruth..






Riot 10-22-2012 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 896615)
There goes Riot, race baiting again. Believing that people who want Romney over Obama are racists. Its ABSOLUTELY ridiculous and very telling.

What a bunch of crap.

First, it's not "race baiting" to acknowledge that there are plenty of racists that have come out of the woodwork in their racial hate of the black president. It exists. Racism exists and is directed against the president. We all know it and see it.

Secondly, I have never implied nor said everyone who wants Romney over Obama are racists. You purposely ignoring every single other word I said is ridiculous.

Get an effing grip, you twit.

Riot 10-22-2012 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 896621)
an example of someone using a character trait they have, and projecting it on others? people do that you know. it's why honest people get ripped off, they think everyone else thinks like they do.

Seriously? You think people secretly self-identify as Muslim Kenyan Communist Socialists, too, who secretly want gun control?

What a ridiculously moronic and inconsistent thing to say, to pick one characteristic out of a list I gave and attach to it. How stupid.

Riot 10-22-2012 12:15 PM

Romney is a man who could never gain traction in either 2008 or 2012. His fellow GOP primary candidates couldn't stand him due to his flip-flopping and lack of character. He won this GOP primary by running against $2500 claimers, never winning on quality, but because he had more money for slam ads against his fellow GOP.

The concept of this man as POTUS is truly scary to me - he's Bush redux, with the failed Bush foreign policy gurus directing him.

The good thing: Lady Ann has said that once this is over, they are out of politics forever.

Foreign Policy Debate Could End Mitt Romney's Campaign

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/...mneys-campaign

joeydb 10-22-2012 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 896573)
The "pro-Obama" people have a president of superior personal likeability that can run on his quite accomplished record.

Stop, I'm going to split my side laughing!!! :D


Riot 10-22-2012 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 897483)
Stop, I'm going to split my side laughing!!! :D

What do think is so "funny" about Obama's factual list of accomplishments?

Lowering your taxes to historic lows?
Lowering small business taxes?
Preventing a depression?
Lowering the deficit by 3% of GDP?
Lowering fiscal spending to a 40-year low?
Creating 5.2 million jobs in 3 years?
Extending the life of Medicare 8 years?
Uncovering multiple instances of massive Medicare fraud and saving us billions?
Giving you significant health care protections?
Creating consumer financial protection agency?
Fair pay act for women?
Eliminating waste in education by eliminating banks as profit middlemen for student loans?
Allowing non-criminal DREAM Act kids an application process for work visas?
Deporting more illegal aliens than any other president?
Ending DADT?
Killing bin Laden and decimating al Quaeda - you know, the terrorist cell that killed 3000 Americans?
Ending the war in Iraq?
Continuing pullout on Afghanistan?
Opening up dead warriors returning home to press? (Bush hid it, forbade coverage)
Attempted to close GITMO (blocked by fearful Americans)
Signing free trade agreements?
Historic sanctions on China?
Most sanctions ever on Iran?
Unifying international community regarding Libya, Syria?

Oh, yeah: and all that was accomplished with complete attempted obstruction by the opposition political party.

If Obama was Republican, we'd be screaming to put his damn visage on Mt. Rushmore. Instead we have lie after lie about the man. It's pathetic. The facts of what this man has accomplished for this country are beyond party preference.

Bush had eight years: where is his list of accomplishments? Romney promises to be Bush 3 - without the intelligence of a Cheney in the WH.

Rudeboyelvis 10-22-2012 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 897487)

If Obama was Republican, we'd be screaming to put his damn visage on Mt. Rushmore. Instead we have lie after lie about the man. It's pathetic. The facts of what this man has accomplished for this country are beyond party preference.

OMG I REALLY AM GOING TO SPLIT MT SIDES FROM LAUGHING!!!

Riot 10-22-2012 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 897488)
OMG I REALLY AM GOING TO SPLIT MT SIDES FROM LAUGHING!!!

Yes, it's easy to make the above statement, and difficult to factually dispute that list. You can't do it, huh? :D

Tell us, Rude - what specific items on that list are you angry were accomplished, and you think are bad for America?

List them for us :D

joeydb 10-22-2012 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 897490)
Yes, it's easy to make the above statement, and difficult to factually dispute that list. You can't do it, huh? :D

Tell us, Rude - what specific items on that list are you angry were accomplished, and you think are bad for America?

List them for us :D

How about "accomplishing" a record $16,000,000,000,000 in debt, with $1,000,000,000,000+ deficits for as far as the eye can see, assuming anyone is still stupid enough to keep lending us money we can't pay back.

Oh, yeah, what happens when they don't? Splat - there goes the whole economy and the dollar dies first.

Riot 10-22-2012 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 897493)
How about "accomplishing" a record $16,000,000,000,000 in debt,

The president is not responsible for 100% of our debt and you know it.

Please - list this presidents personal contribution to our debt. Itemize, please. Fact is, this president has contributed very little to our debt, especially compared to the massive fiscal recklessness of the last 2 administrations.

Quote:

with $1,000,000,000,000+ deficits for as far as the eye can see, assuming anyone is still stupid enough to keep lending us money we can't pay back.
Your hysterical hyperbole and use of excessive zeros is sad. You apparently are confusing debt with deficit - this president has cut the deficit by 3% of GDP.

And by the way? When the Bush Tax Cuts expire January 1, 2013, that alone will cause our debt to be cut in half in about 10 years.

Life in America is so much more fun in reality-land.

joeydb 10-22-2012 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 897495)
The president is not responsible for 100% of our debt and you know it.

Please - list this presidents personal contribution to our debt. Itemize, please.



You apparently are confusing debt with deficit - this president has cut the deficit by 3% of GDP.

No, I'm afraid you are confusing the two. The deficit is the amount of shortfall in a year, and if that is not paid by the end of that year, the outstanding amount is added to the cumulative debt.

The 3% cut you refer to is evidently nonsense, as the deficits, however reported, are going up, not down, and are larger than GW Bush's deficits. You can't cut something by 3% and have a larger number.

Or are you going to say that the GDP itself increased in spite of the high unemployment? That would also require some explaining.


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