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dagolfer33 09-24-2012 10:51 PM

This has officially gotten way out of hand
 
Bad calls, loss of control of the game, its all happening in most games. But what happened tonight, takes the cake.

OldDog 09-24-2012 10:52 PM

Worst. ****ing. Officiating. Ever.

IrishofNDMan 09-24-2012 11:40 PM

Brilliant play by Golden Tate.... GO IRISH!

OldDog 09-25-2012 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan (Post 892129)
Brilliant play by Golden Tate.

Seriously? It was a great effort, no argument. But he did not have possession. It wasn't even "dual possession."

wiphan 09-25-2012 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan (Post 892129)
Brilliant play by Golden Tate.... GO IRISH!

There was nothing brilliant about that play. Did you get your education at ND? If so they ripped you off, because you are showing your lack of intelligence by that comment

IrishofNDMan 09-25-2012 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 892140)
There was nothing brilliant about that play. Did you get your education at ND? If so they ripped you off, because you are showing your lack of intelligence by that comment

No I did not go to ND, I'd probably be smarter if I did. Would I be pissed as a packers fan? Yes. But with the officials sucking so much I think he was smart to first push off because without that he had no shot at the ball, and I do believe he caught it with his hands while the other guy caught it in his chest.

jms62 09-25-2012 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 892139)
Seriously? It was a great effort, no argument. But he did not have possession. It wasn't even "dual possession."

It really was not even questionable not even close to dual possession more like tate put his hands on the ball when the play was decided.

cmorioles 09-25-2012 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 892140)
There was nothing brilliant about that play. Did you get your education at ND? If so they ripped you off, because you are showing your lack of intelligence by that comment

Nothing better than the diehard college fan that never went to the college. They are an endless source of entertainment.

wiphan 09-25-2012 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan (Post 892187)
No I did not go to ND, I'd probably be smarter if I did. Would I be pissed as a packers fan? Yes. But with the officials sucking so much I think he was smart to first push off because without that he had no shot at the ball, and I do believe he caught it with his hands while the other guy caught it in his chest.

Even Marshawn Lynch has the balls to say they didn't win that game


http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--se...day-night.html

dagolfer33 09-25-2012 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan (Post 892187)
Would I be pissed as a packers fan?

I am not a Packer fan, but as a fan of the NFL, I am appalled. I am a Raiders fan, and we were subjected to the most infamous screwing in the history of the league. For me, what's right is right, and what's wrong is wrong. This was a no contest.

casp0555 09-25-2012 11:23 AM

Im glad I'm not wagering on this sport this season, referee's are the biggest reason :wf:wf, maybe next season :confused:

wiphan 09-25-2012 11:36 AM

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...headline_stack

Seattleallstar 09-25-2012 11:50 AM

wonder all those people that bet big on packers

wiphan 09-25-2012 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan (Post 892129)
Brilliant play by Golden Tate.... GO IRISH!

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...le-seahawks-td

Seattleallstar 09-25-2012 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 892211)

on the other hand what do you expect him to say. I would just say no comment and smile, dont be a total ******* about it

Rudeboyelvis 09-25-2012 12:38 PM

NFL admits wrong call was made, but there will be no change in the order of finish:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/s...ult/57840636/1

IrishofNDMan 09-25-2012 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 892189)
Nothing better than the diehard college fan that never went to the college. They are an endless source of entertainment.

Didn't know you had to go to a school to cheer for them.... I guess as a child you shouldn't watch college football then.

-BT- 09-25-2012 01:33 PM

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/ey...blers-fortunes

-bt-

Rudeboyelvis 09-25-2012 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by -BT- (Post 892233)

I'd like to know what the % of Home teams are covering thus far.... It seems that every judgement call which affects an important turn in a game is going against the Visitors -Granted, this is just one pure idiot's speculation, but I'd be curious.

cmorioles 09-25-2012 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan (Post 892227)
Didn't know you had to go to a school to cheer for them.... I guess as a child you shouldn't watch college football then.

Children obviously haven't had the opportunity to go. There is nothing wrong with you supporting them, but to me it just isn't the same. I live in Oklahoma and I just get turned off how the team is treated like pros by people that can't spell the name of the state. They trash a bunch of kids like they are earning 10 million a year or something.

cmorioles 09-25-2012 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 892214)
on the other hand what do you expect him to say. I would just say no comment and smile, dont be a total ******* about it

Exactly, just get off the field instead of making an ass out of yourself.

jms62 09-25-2012 02:28 PM

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...als/70001098/1

Rudeboyelvis 09-25-2012 02:35 PM

Rodgers says he was given a kicking ball by the refs for a 2 pt. conversion attempt.

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...1#.UGIGoK4m8fY

dellinger63 09-25-2012 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 892121)
Worst. ****ing. Officiating. Ever.

As a Bears fan sitting in WI watching a Badger alum throwing the hail mary it may rank as one of the sweetest plays ever.

Karma coming back for the purposeful injury of McMahon by the pack a few decades ago. ;)

Danzig 09-25-2012 02:48 PM

goodell must have had money on seattle.

Alabama Stakes 09-25-2012 05:20 PM

Teamsters
 
This is what happens when you use scabs, instead of solid UNION officials, who actually have the nerve to be looking for a little pension. Chump change in the grand scheme of things. Just pay them and keep the integrity of the game.

* with technology what it is, isn't there a way to have higher goalposts so that the ball can't go over them. When they are gonna attempt a field goal, you press a button, Like the old power radio antenna on a caddy, and the the post goes up about 20 feet. These guys are kicking the ball high into the net from 50, and they haven't figured out that a change is in order.

jms62 09-26-2012 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 892140)
There was nothing brilliant about that play. Did you get your education at ND? If so they ripped you off, because you are showing your lack of intelligence by that comment

What do you think the NFL should do regarding the replacement refs?

wiphan 09-26-2012 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 892365)
What do you think the NFL should do regarding the replacement refs?

It is obvious that these guys are in way over there head and yes now it has cost the players and fans at least 1 game. Fortunately no one has been seriously hurt, but in my opinion this shows the lack of respect by the NFL for their product. They believe they are bigger than the game and you are going to watch it no matter what and you know what they are probably right. I don't think they should be playing until they get competent officials on the field. Will the regular refs make mistakes, of course. However watching the games the last 3 weeks is ridiculous. Some of these guys weren't competent enough to ref lingerie games. Most haven't officiated above the D3 level in college. It isn't there fault they are not good enough. I believe they shouldn't play another game until they get competent officials on the field. It is not fair to the players, fans, bettors, etc.

jms62 09-26-2012 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 892366)
It is obvious that these guys are in way over there head and yes now it has cost the players and fans at least 1 game. Fortunately no one has been seriously hurt, but in my opinion this shows the lack of respect by the NFL for their product. They believe they are bigger than the game and you are going to watch it no matter what and you know what they are probably right. I don't think they should be playing until they get competent officials on the field. Will the regular refs make mistakes, of course. However watching the games the last 3 weeks is ridiculous. Some of these guys weren't competent enough to ref lingerie games. Most haven't officiated above the D3 level in college. It isn't there fault they are not good enough. I believe they shouldn't play another game until they get competent officials on the field. It is not fair to the players, fans, bettors, etc.

I agree with your position 100% but I am suprised that in this case you are for negotiating with a union rather then breaking it by using scabs which seems to be inconsistent with your political views. ;)

wiphan 09-26-2012 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 892367)
I agree with your position 100% but I am suprised that in this case you are for negotiating with a union rather then breaking it by using scabs which seems to be inconsistent with your political views. ;)

Public unions and private unions are different in my opinion. There is nothing wrong with private unions. Public unions are completely different.

"All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management. The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for administrative officials to represent fully or to bind the employer in mutual discussions with Government employee organizations. The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives in Congress. Accordingly, administrative officials and employees alike are governed and guided, and in many instances restricted, by laws which establish policies, procedures, or rules in personnel matters."- FDR

jms62 09-26-2012 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 892368)
Public unions and private unions are different in my opinion. There is nothing wrong with private unions. Public unions are completely different.

"All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management. The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for administrative officials to represent fully or to bind the employer in mutual discussions with Government employee organizations. The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives in Congress. Accordingly, administrative officials and employees alike are governed and guided, and in many instances restricted, by laws which establish policies, procedures, or rules in personnel matters."- FDR

Fair enough;)

Alabama Stakes 09-26-2012 03:51 PM

told it to a mule he'd kick ya.
 
don't tell me anybody is buying this snowjob. can you say hypocrite ?

hi_im_god 09-26-2012 05:00 PM

http://www.latimes.com/sports/footba...,4257655.story

Lance Easley is the side judge who ruled a “simultaneous catch” between Seattle receiver Golden Tate and Packers safety M.D. Jennings, who appeared to have possession of the ball when both players hit the ground. Another official initially ruled the play as an interception and touchback.

Both officials missed Tate shoving a defender out of the way as the pass came toward them, which should have resulted in a penalty for offensive pass interference.

The NFL requires its permanent officials to have at least 10 years' experience, including at least five in major-college football. Easley, the least experienced of the Monday night crew, had four years of experience, none above Division III.

In fact, last summer Easley was deemed not ready to officiate at the Division I level, according to Karl Richins, who made the determination along with his staff at the Stars and Stripes Academy for Football Officials in Salt Lake City.


pointman 09-26-2012 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 892485)
don't tell me anybody is buying this snowjob. can you say hypocrite ?

You can't be serious. The only reason why these officials don't have the experience to referee NFL games is because the only officials that can possibly get that experience are the ones who are in the union.

Somehow the fact that unions exclude others from getting the experience needed to be able to perform the job proves that unions provide a better product and because the replacement officials are "scabs" they are bad? That is really comical.

Alabama Stakes 09-28-2012 09:31 AM

The NFL officials are graded every week. They are the best of the best. When you use Union employees, you are getting the best bang for your buck. We are accountable. Next thing you're gonna tell me is that you would rather have some cheap Chinese knock off than a nice Union made in America product that you know is quality work. If your head was any further up yorass it would be choking you.


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