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Riot 08-28-2012 04:23 PM

Republicans totally screwing Ron Paul
 
Today's interesting developments at the convention:

The convention - well, the big wings in the party - secretly changed delegate rules on their own in order to screw Ron Paul delegations -made it so Mittens could just ignore and replace them.

Delegate microphones who attempt to speak for Ron Paul being cut off.

State delegations with large number of Ron Paul delegates being seated up on nosebleed seats, away from TV cameras and floor action.

Coach Pants 08-28-2012 08:18 PM

Yep all confirmed.

Quite frankly I'm rooting for Obama over Romney.

The real difference between the two is Obama can't create jobs. Romney just takes them.

Danzig 08-28-2012 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 886868)
Yep all confirmed.

Quite frankly I'm rooting for Obama over Romney.

The real difference between the two is Obama can't create jobs. Romney just takes them.

yeah, i don't agree with those who say romney would be an improvement over obama. i think he'd be worse.

Coach Pants 08-28-2012 08:30 PM

He would be far worse. I challenge the sheepublicans on here to prove otherwise.

Consider the fact that Romney wanted to proofread and make corrections to Ron Paul's convention speech. And they offered Monday...the day the cowards cancelled two days prior because of the storm.

The party of chicken hawks who are scared of a tropical storm.

Coach Pants 08-28-2012 08:50 PM

This is the Koch Brothers convention.

This is what you're supporting. This is to show that both sides have people with questionable family.

http://unknownjournal.wordpress.com/...ican-ideology/

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERkoch.htm

So explain to me how the Koch puppet will be any better than our current President?

I'd really like to see some of you defend this charade run by descendants of Nazis.

fpsoxfan 08-28-2012 09:00 PM

I've always been a republican, but I can't see myself voting for this Romney, but I'm certainly no fan of Obama either. Romney supports the rich and Obama knowing he can't touch the rich couldn't care about the middle class. I think I'll write in a circus clown.

Danzig 08-28-2012 10:00 PM

yeah, obama isn't much...but when you consider that romney wants to
remove what regs were put back on banks (who are the primary cause of our economic problems)
grow defense, which is already too damned bloated
cut taxes on the wealthy even more (when they are paying less than ever, and the jobs aren't being created-that theory just sucks)
roll back women's rights
it's hard to find something to support. exactly what reason could there be (and the only thing i hear from those agin' obama is he's not obama) to vote for him? from what i've heard, the ones who are going to vote for him are doing so only because it's not a vote for our current 'leader'.

Riot 08-28-2012 10:21 PM

Maine Ron Paul delegation walk out of convention.

RNC refuses to announce Ron Paul delegate vote totals from stage.

RNC totally cheats on it's own rules to screw Ron Paul.

Ron Paul delegate from Main announces they may form a third party, "Republican party is totally corrupt".

Coach Pants 08-29-2012 07:02 AM


geeker2 08-29-2012 07:53 AM

What rules did the GOP endorse that takes away states rights?

Danzig 08-29-2012 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 886913)
What rules did the GOP endorse that takes away states rights?

well, for one, they want a constitutional amendment to ban all gay marriages. i wonder what the states who have passed gay marriage laws would think about that?

Crown@club 08-29-2012 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 886868)
Yep all confirmed.

Quite frankly I'm rooting for Obama over Romney.

The real difference between the two is Obama can't create jobs. Romney just takes them.

Gary Johnson petitioned the Democratic and Republican committees to be able to get involved in the debates. We all know that this isn't going to happen after both committees stifled Perot from being involved in the '97 debates.

I'm getting tired of both sides scaring people that a non-vote of either party is a waste of a vote and a vote for the opposition of either party.

Rudeboyelvis 08-29-2012 10:30 AM

Republitards praising the censorship of Ron Paul:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/hot-mic-...-ron-paul.html


If Romney had an ounce of class, he'd publicly apologize and offer Paul an opportunity to speak. Like that would ever happen, but I guess it's nice to dream.



Meanwhile, locally we have to pay for a task force to shut down all of the prostitutes that have shown up here in advance of the hypocritical blowhards arriving:


http://www2.tbo.com/news/republican-...n-b-ar-467988/

I wonder how many of them will be against their knocked up hooker getting an abortion?





Good luck with this country.

geeker2 08-29-2012 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 886921)
well, for one, they want a constitutional amendment to ban all gay marriages. i wonder what the states who have passed gay marriage laws would think about that?

That's a bit of a reach since the amendment must be approved by three-fourths of the states with no time limit (last one only took 200+ years)

I didn't see any other ones that came even remotely close to limiting states rights.

jms62 08-29-2012 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 886926)
Republitards praising the censorship of Ron Paul:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/hot-mic-...-ron-paul.html


If Romney had an ounce of class, he'd publicly apologize and offer Paul an opportunity to speak. Like that would ever happen, but I guess it's nice to dream.



Meanwhile, locally we have to pay for a task force to shut down all of the prostitutes that have shown up here in advance of the hypocritical blowhards arriving:


http://www2.tbo.com/news/republican-...n-b-ar-467988/

I wonder how many of them will be against their knocked up hooker getting an abortion?





Good luck with this country.

A good percentage of them won't get knocked up... Just not possible.

http://www.theonion.com/video/tampa-...lood-of,29263/

Riot 08-29-2012 11:53 AM

This is a massive power consolidation by the elite of the Republican Party, within the remaining structure of the party, with reaches far beyond just removing Ron Paul now and Rand in the future.

They've successfully kicked out the influence and moderation of the state parties and the delegates, and changed it so the top can make all the rules for the national party, and change those rules outside of the organization (Republican National Committee)

The GOP elite just circumvented their own rules, and eliminated the states and delegates from having any influence on the rules of the national party.
.
The GOP is hardly a "party" any more. It's owned by just a few at the top now. Mitt is just their lackey.

Consider this: the national Republican Party members now have zero input, moderation or control from "states" and "voting" regarding how the party is run, who the candidate is, delegate input, etc; and Citizens United consolidated the ability of money to purchase government in this country.

Why do you think the Republican Party Platform is 100% crazy Tea Party extremism? It doesn't matter. It's only there to get the "base "to vote for the chosen elite candidate.

BTW - anybody remember who won the GOP Iowa delegates caucuses? Announced in the press as "Mitt Romney wins Iowa", right?

Until weeks later, when it was suddenly announced that a "recount" indicated Rick Santorum "won" Iowa? (too late for Santorum to get a surge from that win, btw, Romney was already on a roll).

Turns out Ron Paul, working Iowa caucuses as it should be, actually won the most: 22 Iowa delegates.

Ron Paul won the GOP primary contest in Iowa.

PS Paul supporters still begging him to run as third-party candidate this election. We'll see.

Riot 08-29-2012 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 886930)
A good percentage of them won't get knocked up... Just not possible.

http://www.theonion.com/video/tampa-...lood-of,29263/

:tro:

You know, if one got 100% of their political coverage from The Onion, you wouldn't be all that uninformed ... :D

Danzig 08-29-2012 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crown@club (Post 886925)
Gary Johnson petitioned the Democratic and Republican committees to be able to get involved in the debates. We all know that this isn't going to happen after both committees stifled Perot from being involved in the '97 debates.

I'm getting tired of both sides scaring people that a non-vote of either party is a waste of a vote and a vote for the opposition of either party.

:tro:


the two parties have fought against others being included for years. they don't want a third to fight against.

Danzig 08-29-2012 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 886927)
That's a bit of a reach since the amendment must be approved by three-fourths of the states with no time limit (last one only took 200+ years)

I didn't see any other ones that came even remotely close to limiting states rights.

that was just off the top of my head.

thing is, what they want, and what they get, are two different things. they all preach about rights, while trying to take them away, and put as much power in the fed as possible.
just like romney and the gop are supposed to be small govt-but their actions continually prove otherwise.

Coach Pants 08-29-2012 04:10 PM

The conservatards are in full bully mode and Ron Paul isn't the sole recipient of it.

A black CNN camerawoman was degraded by two jerk offs who threw some type of nuts at her and said, "This is what we feed the animals."

Un-f.ucking-believable.

Antitrust32 08-29-2012 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 887066)
The conservatards are in full bully mode and Ron Paul isn't the sole recipient of it.

A black CNN camerawoman was degraded by two jerk offs who threw some type of nuts at her and said, "This is what we feed the animals."

Un-f.ucking-believable.

fucl<ing pathetic really.

my ticket will neither be punched for a republican or democrat candidate this year.

People can tell me I'm "wasting" my vote all they want. Fucl< you, voting on principle is not a wasted vote.

If anything is going to be wasted over the next 4 years, it's going to be my taxes, my freedoms... and my brain!

jms62 08-29-2012 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 887069)
fucl<ing pathetic really.

my ticket will neither be punched for a republican or democrat candidate this year.

People can tell me I'm "wasting" my vote all they want. Fucl< you, voting on principle is not a wasted vote.

If anything is going to be wasted over the next 4 years, it's going to be my taxes, my freedoms... and my brain!

I was the same way was going to vote for Ron Paul becuase both are useless but the Republicans actions yesterday made me decide NOT to waste my vote on Paul. It will not be a vote for Obama but a vote against Romney and the conservative Taliban that has infected our country.

rpncaine 08-29-2012 04:54 PM

:tro:

Riot 08-29-2012 05:03 PM

We'll have to see if Paul does run third party - I don't know if he "could" run third party at this late point in the election process, according to rules.

Run Libertarian? Is that Gary Johnson, or did he drop out?

I would love to see Paul run - would serve the GOP right for circumventing their own rules to screw him and his supporters, who "thew" their support to the GOP. Until this.

Antitrust32 08-29-2012 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 887071)
I was the same way was going to vote for Ron Paul becuase both are useless but the Republicans actions yesterday made me decide NOT to waste my vote on Paul. It will not be a vote for Obama but a vote against Romney and the conservative Taliban that has infected our country.

yeah the last thing i want to do is vote for the Religious party... who does not seem to grasp the concept of Church and State Seperation. I have actually heard people say in my hometown... "How can you be a good christian and vote for Obama" It makes me want to cry, these idiots! Pleeeaaasee... Keep your church out of my state and federal goverment... and in return I'll keep myself out of your church.

I wont be too upset if Obama wins, but I wont be voting for his terrible, extension of Bush Presidency.

Danzig 08-29-2012 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 887081)
yeah the last thing i want to do is vote for the Religious party... who does not seem to grasp the concept of Church and State Seperation. I have actually heard people say in my hometown... "How can you be a good christian and vote for Obama" It makes me want to cry, these idiots! Pleeeaaasee... Keep your church out of my state and federal goverment... and in return I'll keep myself out of your church.

I wont be too upset if Obama wins, but I wont be voting for his terrible, extension of Bush Presidency.

:tro:

i 'threw my vote away' four years ago. i'll be doing the same again it appears. and i agree, it's not a wasted vote. they aren't worthy of my vote, so i won't give it to either of them.
and if enough people did the same, just think what would happen!

Danzig 08-29-2012 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 887066)
The conservatards are in full bully mode and Ron Paul isn't the sole recipient of it.

A black CNN camerawoman was degraded by two jerk offs who threw some type of nuts at her and said, "This is what we feed the animals."

Un-f.ucking-believable.

yeah, i saw that earlier. how embarrassing to know they are fellow human beings. they give the rest of us a bad name.

geeker2 08-29-2012 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 887111)
yeah, i saw that earlier. how embarrassing to know they are fellow human beings. they give the rest of us a bad name.

yup...same with this


..." before accusing her of being exploited "like the House N----- she truly is."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...ed-with-slurs/

Dahoss 08-29-2012 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 887066)
The conservatards are in full bully mode and Ron Paul isn't the sole recipient of it.

A black CNN camerawoman was degraded by two jerk offs who threw some type of nuts at her and said, "This is what we feed the animals."

Un-f.ucking-believable.

Did you happen to see how this was spun on PA? The big thinkers there are sure the two guys who did it were plants by the Democrats.

Danzig 08-29-2012 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 887115)
yup...same with this


..." before accusing her of being exploited "like the House N----- she truly is."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...ed-with-slurs/

Thats just awful.

Danzig 08-29-2012 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 887122)
Did you happen to see how this was spun on PA? The big thinkers there are sure the two guys who did it were plants by the Democrats.

I dont go to pa, but i saw that same 'conspiracy theory' bs on slate. Just ridiculous.

geeker2 08-29-2012 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 887128)
I dont go to pa, but i saw that same 'conspiracy theory' bs on slate. Just ridiculous.

It appears CNN know the whole story - but so far has not released any details. It would be interesting to have the names of the two offenders published.


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