Mass Shooting in Wisconsin
 

At a Sikh Temple in Oak Creek. No further details yet.





MASS CASUALTY
08/05/12 11:11

(OAK CREEK - IFERN) 8-10 SHOOTING VICTIMS SPREAD OUT ACROSS SEVERAL BLOCKS. MULTIPLE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES UNITS ON SCENE [WSC059]

We are getting reports that eight to 20 people have been injured in a shooting about 11 a.m. Sunday at the Sikh Temple, 7512 S. Howell Ave., in Oak Creek.

Flight for Life has been called.

Oak Creek police are not giving out any information at this point.

Oak Creek police, the Milwaukee County Sheriff's Department and other law enforcement agencies have responded.

We will update frequently.

Officer Down
08/05/12 10:54

(oak Creek - ) Officer Shot In Throat. Multiple Other Vics. Swat Team Requested To Secure Building. Multi Emergency Medical Services Responding. [wsc059]

Hope it doesn't turn out to be some religious racist. There are so many "Americans" that hate others for their religion.

Mass Casualty
08/05/12 11:43

(oak Creek - Ifern) Update: Multiple Vics Still Inside With Shooter. Mabas Life Sartey Box To 2nd Alarm. Flight For Life O/ [wsc059]

From OakCreek Patch 20 minutes ago
 

Several people — including possibly one police officer — have reportedly been shot at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin, according to police radio reports coming out of Oak Creek.

The incident reportedly occurred about 10:45 a.m. Initial reports said there were four victims, and an active shooter. Mutual aid was requested from other departments to respond to the situation. Some unconfirmed scanner reports say between eight and 20 people have been injured.

Oak Creek police are not releasing any information at this time.

According to recent information broadcast over police radio, a witness to the shooting told law enforcement the shooter was a white male, with a heavy build, bald head and wearing a sleeveless T-shirt. He was last seen with two handguns.

Scanner reports indicated that as of 11:40 a.m. that suspect may still be at large.

Flight for Life has reportedly been called.

Milwaukee County Sheriff Scanner Feed


http://www.radioreference.com/apps/a...wp&feedId=9840

Officer doesn't sound to be doing well. Prayers go out to all the victims and hope the culprit is killed so we don't need to have a trial. With a mother of twins who drowned in a tub she drew recently sentenced to no time let's hope justice is served today!

Subject still in building

You would be great as the leader of a lynch mob.

Local news finally broke in.

Four dead outside in parking lot, more injured and or dead inside, white male with two guns, sleeveless shirt, escaped into the woods and is on the loose. Kill this bastard PLEASE!

Some good news! The officer who was shot muliple times is at the Hospital expected to be OK. That officer in turn returned fire and as the police spokesman (chief of Greenfield) said the suspect 'is down and still on the scene' hopefully bleeding out but most likely already dead. Strange way to describe the scene. IMO

Reports have up to four gunmen and police asked for no arial shots of TAC officers indicating they are still on the hunt.

Frader reporting three patients, all critical and there were children inside. More at 1:30pm.


FBI now on the scene.

Prayers are requested by the Sikhs

Live coverage here. Briefing at 3:30pm central.

http://livewire.wisn.com/Event/Oak_C...emple_Shooting

One shooter, dead. Six victims dead at scene. One officer shot on scene in surgery now (he shot the shooter dead, he was shot by that shooter). Three other people at hospital being treated.

sorry if I'm repaeating what ^^^^ iggy reported but seven (2 men) one in his 60's one in his 80's dead including the shooter.

12 others were able to hide in the pantry and remarkably those people began calling friends and family to not come to the temple BEFORE calling police to save their own lives.

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Looks like only one gunman and he's dead. There likely will be more casualties as loved ones have still not been reached. The Sikh's (pronounced Sik) are freeking amazing. While coming together in support of each other after this tragedy they are actually handing out food and water to reporters and first responders. Great to see non-seek neighbors showing up to now assist them.


However at least in Southern Wisconsin a lot of people have been given an education. They invite everyone to services and free food (even if one doesn't attend the service part) Unlike the quran Sikh Scripture dictates women are equal to men. Women are able to hold any position within the religion. They also believe in one God and he is the God of all people. They do accept other religions and are peaceful however were forced to fight ironically the muslims because of Sikh's opposition to forced coversion to Islam in northern India. Let's just hope this bastard burns in hell for eternity.

Fortunately in this case the gunman is dead unlike Frank Roque who mistakingly killed a Sikh gas station owner in AZ thinking he was a muslim. A jury convicted him and sentenced him to the death penalty however the AZ Supreme Court overturn the conviction in part on appeal and reduced the sentence to life.

Simply amazing. All this talk - CNN, I'm looking at you - about "how Sikhs are not Muslims" somehow seems to say that Muslims deserve being shot, or are more expected to be shot at.

Dinosaur Jesus, save this country from theocrates and religious haters.

The heroes in addition to the cop who shot the culprit dead, turns out to be the partner of officer shot, include two Sikh children, whom upon seeing the gunman shoot 2 in the parking lot ran into the Temple to warn others. Most all were saved by hiding 30 plus, except four inside that includes two Guru's (leaders) another Guru tackled the prick and is in the ICU at Frater.

Death toll is 7, broke out bastard lived in Cudahay on Holmes Ave in a rented room and although the FBI has classified the crime as domestic terrorism local sources report it's due to a bad break up. The culprit reportedly is a veteran.

BTW No longer are they showing the Sikh man who explained the differences between Sikhism and islam which is a shame. However they are still apologizing every time they say Sikh pronouced Sik.

Wade Michael Page is the name of the bastard responsible. He is reported to be a white supremist but neighbors (only at present address since last month) who knew him said he kept that a secret. Guess anti-semetic tattoos are comon in Cudahy, WI. Army Vet (based out of Ft. Bragg) attatched to the psych unit. Less than honorably discharged after being bumped down to Sgt.

His ex-girlfriend (reportedly a breakup he couldn't get over) lived in Oak Creek near the Temple. I hope the Sikhs generosity didn't make them a target.

Another hero is the Temple's founder and builder Satwant Singh Kaleka who came to the U.S. with $30 bucks, worked 16hrs a day six days a week for two years, during which he was robbed over a dozen times and taken to the E.R. in least four of those robberies, before he bought his first business. He expanded to the point he was able to finance the construction of the Temple in lieu of a mansion or yacht for himself, anticipating more Sikh's were on the way. Evidence at the scene (bloodtrail) shows Kaleka attacked Page with his dagger that had blood on it and the subject fled, meeting the two cops in the parking lot. Unfortunately Kaleka's son said his father did not suffer immediate mortal wounds but bled out while police assessed the situation.

This guy's kid (I'd guess about 19) is unbelievably poised, warm and considerate considering what just happened and I think is destined for a huge future.

I think they are pointing out how many Americans have no idea about what their neighbors are doing as opposed to saying "Muslims deserve this."

Ignorance among the population, I was shocked when I heard this was a Sikh temple, made no sense as they are truly peaceful people, my second thought, sadly, was that some horrible excuse for a human thought they were Muslims.
That is the world we live in now.

Please for sanity's sake quote riot with just riot.

No one was saying muslims deserve violence. It's the voices going off in her head again. The Sikh's, you know the victims were the ones saying they were not muslims. What the Sikhs were saying is their religion Sikhism teaches women are equal to men and hold any position a man does in their church. Perhaps the only mainstream religion to do so. They also point out their God loves everyone and there is no such word as infidel. I think Christians and Jews have more in common with muslims than Sikhs do and this is their point. Not to mention they lived under muslim rule for over 300 years and fought and beat the muslims because they were opposed to converting. This is why the muslim/Sikh differences are being pointed out.

For more info: www.sikhactivist.net

I am originally from NJ and very familiar with the Sikh people and their religion, their is a very large population there. I am OK with the differences being brought up too because the majority of Americans are clueless on pretty much every topic.

it's all well and good to point out the differences....but no loonie is going to care. that guy was already a racist, and apparently on the edge. it didn't matter one whit to him whether his victims were muslim or not-they were 'different'. just like the batman shooter didn't care who his victims were.
and those who are pointing out that they 'aren't muslims'-if they were, would you be as sympathetic? i would imagine that the answer for some would be 'no', and that's a shame.

I'm familiar with them through my work and if everyone was Sikh the world would be a much nicer place, that's for sure.

Their consistent record of achieving the American dream starting with nothing should make the occupy crowd and anyone else crying and whining blush in embarrassment and get a job.

What I think is a shame is the people of the U.S. not familiar with Sikhism are not being allowed to hear what the Sikhs are saying because although true it's not PC.

Especially when the main difference involves equality and acceptance of other religions. But why let facts get in the way.

Attention Americans who are Muslim haters and bigots - don't fear! The right-wing skinhead killer actually killed Sikhs. You're safe from finger-pointing at any consequences for your bigotry for now.

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http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opi...,4837148.story

From todays Baltimore Sun:

Not all is rosy for American minorities. Some politicians and media personalities are actively engaged in fear mongering, mainly against American Muslims. Because some confuse them with Muslim extremists, the rhetoric has caused more than 1,000 hate crimes, including murders, against the American Sikh community since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

According to a Sikh leader in the Milwaukee area, two taxis owned by Sikh drivers were vandalized, and two Sikh men were assaulted there following9/11. American Muslims still get to face the brunt of the injury, according to Muslim civil rights organizations, with thousands of complaints filed every year.

What, then, keeps the American minorities so committed to the United States? The answer lies in the wounds of the police officers recuperating in Wisconsin's hospitals. American minorities are cognizant that no matter how much hate the bigots spew and no matter how many bullets the lunatics fire, the institutions and the Constitution of America are on their side.

I didn't say that, you remarkable fool. If you are going to refuse to read what I write, then stop trying to pull responses to what I write out of the ignorance of thin air.

It was nice of them to point out that a "right-wing skinhead" (did they ask him about his politics?) was not informed about the people he was killing. Or the other racist idiots. Thank god there are newspapers to share this valuable insight.

Exactly. But they are less Sikh's, than Americans. And that's what is worse. And we don't have to tolerate any such world.

Like 'Zig said, this guy just decided he was entitled to go on a spree and kill anybody he wanted. I'm sick of loonies using excuses to blow others away. But I'm glad they are investigating it as domestic terrorism/hate crime. It may prove not to be, but if it is, then middle-age white guys can get in the "you're a religious terrorist, too" boat.

I'm tired of the f.u.c.k.ing way Foster Of Xenophobes "News", and members of our Congress, have had a public hate-on for "Muslims" the past 10 years - how dare they. Yes, they have blood on their hands for fostering violence and hate and intolerance in this society. Shut the eff up, you ignorant bigots. This country is a country, not of old white arrogant, self-entitled, intolerant Christians, but of multi-cultural, multi-diverse immigrant families and their children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren. The only native true native Americans have been abused beyond reason in their own right. Anybody who thinks they own America, and are better than their fellow Americans - get the hell out. You're a danger to this democracy and country's ideals.

Skinheads afraid this jerk will give racists, bigots and skinheads a bad name:

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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/07/us...ting.html?_r=1

Officials at the Southern Poverty Law Center said they had been tracking Mr. Page for about a decade because of his ties to the white supremacist movement and described him as “a frustrated neo-Nazi who had been the leader of a racist white-power band.”

They said he played guitar and sang vocals for a band started in 2005 called End Apathy.

“This guy was in the thick of the white supremacist music scene and, in fact, played with some of the best known racist bands in the country,” said Mark Potok, a senior fellow at the center. “The music that comes from these bands is incredibly violent and it talks about murdering Jews, black people, gay people and a whole host of other enemies. It is music that could not be sold over the counter around the country.”

Mr. Page was living in a rented apartment in Cudahy, about five miles from the sprawling Sikh Temple of Wisconsin in Oak Creek, a suburb of Milwaukee. He was shot by police after he fired several shots at a police officer tending to one of the victims, officials said.

Police Chief John Edwards of Oak Creek did not give a motive for the shooting, which is being treated as an act of “domestic terrorism.”

oh, that is rich coming from you dell.

Yea why criticize a religion whose doctrine says all non-believers are infidels, calls for jihad for things like cartoons, and who kill thousands of daughters each year in the name of honor! Not to mention attempting to slaughter the people we are speaking of because they simply believed in Sikhism,

I suppose as long as women in this country have access to subsidized or free health care who cares?

And if we want change and at least I do. Let's dedicate at least half of all foreign aid going to such countries to helping women achieve equality!

And one last thing as this episode has shown. The expression of hate and racism in the form of violence is a far different animal than a disagreement about the public opinion of a guy who sells chicken sandwiches.

Let's reserve the words like hate, racist, etc. for something truly despicable and horrific and not toss them casually as a simplistic rhetorical tool within the parlor game of modern political debate.

Hear that Riot!

what in the world does your second paragraph have to do with the first?

Simple

Basically as far as women rights and equality are concerned, there are bigger fish to fry!

and the silence and defense as 'most muslims are peaceful' rings at a bit hypocritical.

I have and will never have ANY respect for a religion who treats their women as most Americans treat there dogs.

i concluded long ago that dell has his own private language.

i'm sure what he posts makes sense to him but it just looks like a string of non-sequiturs to me. i don't try to decode it anymore. i just enjoy the ride.

You would never understand as indicated by your moniker 'hi i'm god'

But keep reading.

Yeah! Reserve them for when people are like ... hateful, racist, and bigoted. And demonstrate it.

So to be clear there are still three people hospitalized?

Geez isn't Obama gonna go and hand out phone numbers to these people?