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Kasept 04-04-2012 11:56 AM

4/7 (AQU): Wood, Carter (G1's), Comely, Bay Shore (G3's)
 
7th (4:04) Comely S. (G3)

1 Mile | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Broadway's Alibi Castellano J J 122 L
2 Off Limits Alvarado J 116 Blk-On L
3 Millionreasonswhy Velazquez J R 122 L
4 Nuffsaid Nuffsaid Castanon J L 116 L
5 Welcome Guest Dominguez R A 116 L
6 Singlet Velasquez C 122 L
7 Bourbonstreetgirl Cohen D 116 L



8th (4:38) Bay Shore S. (G3)

7 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Trinniberg Martinez W 120 L
2 Perfect Trippi Nakatani C S 116 L
3 Copy My Swagger Cohen D 116 L
4 Phil Dancer Velasquez C 120 L
5 King and Crusader Luzzi M J 120 L
6 Hardened Wildcat Alvarado J 120 L
7 Maan Castellano J J 116 L
8 How Do I Win Velazquez J R 116 L



9th (5:15) Resorts World Casino New York City Wood Memorial S. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $1,000,000

1 Alpha Dominguez R A 123 L
2 Casual Trick Nakatani C S 123 L
3 My Adonis Trujillo E 123 L
4 Teeth of the Dog Bravo J 123 L
5 Street Life Alvarado J 123 L
6 Gemologist Castellano J J 123 L
7 Tiger Walk Velazquez J R 123 L
8 The Lumber Guy Velasquez C 123 L



10th (5:55) Carter H. (G1)

7 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $400,000

2 Jackson Bend Nakatani C S 120 L
3 Caleb's Posse Maragh R 122 L
4 Calibrachoa Velasquez C 118 L
5 Shackleford Castanon J L 119 L
1 Emcee Velazquez J R 114 L
1A Tahitian Warrior Castellano J J 115 L

A-Coupled: Emcee and Tahitian Warrior

Clip-Clop 04-04-2012 12:01 PM

What a race the Carter is going to be.

jms62 04-04-2012 04:24 PM

17 Possible for the Illinois at 500K yet only 8 for the wood at a Million. I don't get it.

RolloTomasi 04-04-2012 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 850560)
17 Possible for the Illinois at 500K yet only 8 for the wood at a Million. I don't get it.

It's better that way.

Splitting up the no-hopers only maximizes the chances of one of them slipping through the cracks.

We already have Delta Downs and Sunland Park providing those types outright.

FATPIANO 04-04-2012 06:00 PM

gemologist---------undefeated Triple Crown Winner 2012

dpkovalesky 04-04-2012 07:05 PM

Millionreasonswhy looks pretty tough in the Comely

Sightseek 04-04-2012 09:47 PM

What happened to Thunder Moccasin?

Dahoss 04-04-2012 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 850648)
What happened to Thunder Moccasin?

He's being saved for an allowance race next January at Gulfstream.

RockHardTen1985 04-04-2012 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 850648)
What happened to Thunder Moccasin?

Minor setback. Scan coming within the week. Could be entered anywhere, might need some time.... they will know more Monday

Dahoss 04-04-2012 10:29 PM

I can't stop laughing.

goodcopy 04-04-2012 11:25 PM

Very Possible
 
:eek:
Quote:

Originally Posted by FATPIANO (Post 850595)
gemologist---------undefeated Triple Crown Winner 2012

This colt has all the potential,the breeding and the connections to do it at a decent price and long odds in Vegas to win the triple crown:eek:

blackthroatedwind 04-05-2012 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 850655)
I can't stop laughing.

This thread has packed quite a lot in it's few posts.

jms62 04-05-2012 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 850576)
It's better that way.

Splitting up the no-hopers only maximizes the chances of one of them slipping through the cracks.

We already have Delta Downs and Sunland Park providing those types outright.

You're right from a racing perspective. Im looking at it from an exotic bettors perspective.

NTamm1215 04-05-2012 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 850655)
I can't stop laughing.

The funniest part is the horse hasn't worked since 3/3.

my miss storm cat 04-05-2012 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FATPIANO (Post 850595)
gemologist---------undefeated Triple Crown Winner 2012

I like him a lot (Street LIfe too) and would be thrilled if you were right but as far as this race I think I'm using The Lumber Guy in the top spot for an upset (and due to possible insanity. Who knows). :$:

(Or maybe it's homage to Pavo who I would have bet my life on in the Bellamy Road Wood). :D :rolleyes:


edit - I thought this was kinda fun...

Fun facts about the kids in the Wood.

http://www.kentuckyderby.com/news/20...orial-entrants

Conrad 04-05-2012 02:47 PM

Street Life's last race....
 
I use BRIS pp's but I am interested to know what the Beyer fig was for the BroadBrush Stks at Aqu on Mar 17.
I have that race as being pretty slow, but BRIS has it rated much faster than me. Curious to see where Beyer has it rated.
At this point I can't use this colt, even if he is a very strong late runner.
Just looks too slow, esp if my number is more accurate than BRIS'.

Conrad 04-05-2012 03:00 PM

Sorry
 
Disregard previous post.
I had mistakenly recorded the race as being way slower than it actually was, thus the low fig.

All better now:D

letswastemoney 04-05-2012 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conrad (Post 850753)
I use BRIS pp's but I am interested to know what the Beyer fig was for the BroadBrush Stks at Aqu on Mar 17.
I have that race as being pretty slow, but BRIS has it rated much faster than me. Curious to see where Beyer has it rated.
At this point I can't use this colt, even if he is a very strong late runner.
Just looks too slow, esp if my number is more accurate than BRIS'.

The pace was so slow in that race, does it matter what the final speed figure was?

RockHardTen1985 04-06-2012 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 850700)
The funniest part is the horse hasn't worked since 3/3.

The guys grandson told me that about 3 weeks ago now, so the timing makes sense.... Glad you had a good laugh though.

jms62 04-06-2012 08:43 AM

Is there a graded stakes only P4 tomorrow at Aqu?

Conrad 04-06-2012 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by letswastemoney (Post 850870)
The pace was so slow in that race, does it matter what the final speed figure was?

It matters if a horse (Street Life) came rolling home behind that slow pace, making up 5.5 lengths in the stretch and earning a decent fig while passing almost the whole field.
That field held a tactical advantage over Street Life by virtue of being in front through very slow splits, but he ran over them anyway.

Sightseek 04-06-2012 11:48 AM

Anyone have the stats for Zito first time off a throat surgery?



In all seriousness, it would be nice if information on procedures like throat surgery, etc. was made available outside of horses on the Triple Crown trail.

RolloTomasi 04-06-2012 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 850877)
The guys grandson told me that about 3 weeks ago now, so the timing makes sense.... Glad you had a good laugh though.

The Guy's grandson told you 3 weeks ago that he would have a "scan" this week and they would know more Monday?

Seems plausible. Especially since they already know its a minor setback that may or may not require extensive time off.

santana 04-06-2012 06:30 PM

[quote=jms62;850904]Is there a graded stakes only P4 tomorrow at Aqu?[/QUOTYes....

tywizard 04-06-2012 06:55 PM

Yes. 7-10 starts with comely.

Conrad 04-07-2012 09:06 AM

The Carter
 
I see nothing fancy here.

It'll come down to Shack getting loose at the top of the lane and Caleb's Posse running him down. Only thing in doubt for me is if Shack will be caught for 2nd by anyone.

Calibrachoa continues to be sharp, but he caught Caleb's Posse less than fully cranked last time (and at 6f) and I see no way he finishes in front of him at 7f.
Jackson Bend may suprise me and crack the exacta. He loves 7f and may get a slice, but seems a cut below the top players. Working very well for Zito.

TouchOfGrey 04-07-2012 09:23 AM

Calibrachoa to be scratched* as per Jason Blewitt on the National Racing Report.

* Due to quarter crack on his right front

Conrad 04-07-2012 09:54 AM

Is Dominguez fit-n-ready today off the injury and only two mounts yesterday?
He's only got two mounts today: in the Comely and the Wood

Does this factor into your handicapping?


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