France-same shooter
 

some soldiers were shot days ago, now a shooting at a jewish school has left three children and a teacher dead. it's the third shooting in ten days, all involving minorities as targets.


http://edition.cnn.com/2012/03/19/wo...ntent=My+Yahoo

Nascar?

His distant cousin Formula One.

Formula UH

Call me shocked!

Islam strikes again.

I'm not sure why Sarozy spoke to the Jewish community on this.

IMO Similar to bringing an abused wife together with her abuser in the hope of preserving the abusive marriage.

There is no room on this earth for radical Islamists and they need to be dealt with. Better now than later. A culture who considers honor killings to be valid and treating your wife as you would your dog may be beyond help.

In the name of women and children all over the world, please stop these maniacs.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/s...,7933232.story

no dell...al qaeda struck again. and sarkozy probably brought together the jewish community since they're always a target, and they just had four killed yesterday by a terrorist-the same guy who shot some french soldiers of north african origin-you think he asked what religion they were before killing them? he was only concerned with the fact they were french soldiers, and the shooter was targetting them because he didn't like that france has a presence in the middle east.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...re_wrong_.html


the White House released its National Security Strategy. The document declared:

'The United States is waging a global campaign against al-Qa’ida and its terrorist affiliates. To disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qa’ida and its affiliates, we are pursuing a strategy that … denies al-Qa’ida safe haven, and builds positive partnerships with Muslim communities around the world. … We will always seek to delegitimize the use of terrorism and to isolate those who carry it out. Yet this is not a global war against a tactic—terrorism—or a religion—Islam. We are at war with a specific network, al-Qa’ida, and its terrorist affiliates who support efforts to attack the United States, our allies, and partners.'

and further down:

Bin Laden’s biggest concern was al-Qaeda’s media image among Muslims. He worried that it was so tarnished that, in a draft letter … he argued that the organization should find a new name. The al-Qaeda brand had become a problem, bin Laden explained, because Obama administration officials “have largely stopped using the phrase ‘the war on terror’ in the context of not wanting to provoke Muslims,” and instead promoted a war against al-Qaeda. The organization’s full name was “Qaeda al-Jihad,” bin Laden noted, but in its shorthand version, “this name reduces the feeling of Muslims that we belong to them.” … Bin Laden ruminated about “mistakes” and “miscalculations” by affiliates in Iraq and elsewhere that had killed Muslims, even in mosques. He told Atiyah to warn every emir, or regional leader, to avoid these “unnecessary civilian casualties,” which were hurting the organization. “Making these mistakes is a great issue,” he stressed, arguing that spilling “Muslim blood” had resulted in “the alienation of most of the nation [of Islam] from the [Mujaheddin].”

Obama and Brennan were right. So was George W. Bush in his steadfast refusal to blame Islam for 9/11. Bin Laden wanted a religious war. Bush and Obama refused to let him have it. At the end of his life, isolated by left-wing drone strikes and marked for death by PC commandos, this was Bin Laden’s chief lament.

'The 24 year-old, known as Mohammed, told police he was a jihadist for al Qaeda seeking revenge for Palestinian children and French military postings overseas. '

The shootings began on March 11, when an paratrooper of North African origin arranged to meet someone in Toulouse to sell him a scooter he had advertised online, revealing in the ad his military status.

Imad Ibn Ziaten, a 30-year-old staff sergeant in the 1st Airborne Transportation Regiment, was shot in the head at close range with a .45 calibre pistol, a method that was to become the suspect's signature.

Four days later three more paratroopers from another regiment were gunned down - two of them fatally - in identical fashion in a street in the garrison town of Montauban, 45 kilometres (29 miles) away.

The dead - Corporal Abel Chennouf, 25, and Private First Class Mohammed Legouade, 23, both of the 17t Parachute Engineering Regiment - were French soldiers of North African Arab origin.

Arab soldiers are prized targets for groups like Al-Qaeda, which regards Muslims who fight for Western armies as traitors.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-jihadist.html

I'm waiting for the msm to confirm if he was in that prison break in afghanistan.

What we really need is Rick Santourm in charge. We need to do the Crusades in 21st century style. :rolleyes: Radical Islam or Christianity is the same nonsense; talking to the invisible man in the sky and making the charlatans leading the effort obscenely wealthy.

Except Christians evolved beyond the Crusades and are no longer killing in the name of the invisible man. Now, like Santorum the radical ones are trying to preserve life, at any cost, over-ruling individual choice and they're considered anti-women.

When will the Radical Islamists follow suit?

And when will the less radical Muslims begin to respect womens' rights or women for that matter, much less individual choice.

wait...so you mention that a group of people is pro-life, but anti-women..and then ask when muslims will progress to that point? lol only to you would that make sense.

again, not sure why you persist in making this a religious issue. the fact remains that al qaeda kills more muslims than any other group, but you're still trying to make it a muslim issue, rather than a terrorist issue. the guy in france joined al qaeda to get help with killing, not to get help as a muslim. he wanted to kill jews and soldiers, not try to convert people.

I'm sure no Klansman consider themselves "Good Christians" :rolleyes:

No I mentioned a group that was pro-life and was PERCEIVED as anti-woman.

Is Al qaeda the only ones killing their wives and daughters to preserve honor? Is it only them who don't allow women to socialize with the opposite sex? Is it only al qaeda women that can't drive, go to college and marry who they want? And for Allah's sake what about the gay muslims? Or are there none as preached by the whacko Pres of Iran? What about a muslim woman who wants an abortion, a career or marry outside of her religion.

Comparing Islam as a whole to Christianity is like comparing Manson to the 14-year old who got caught shoplifting.

When was the last Klan killing?

Admittedly they are the al qaeda of the Christian religion yet mainly because of Christians, are no longer much of a threat

When was the last Klan Killing? What kind of question is that? Does something need to be in the newspapers with the words KLAN KILLING for it to have "Officially Happened" It very well could have happened this morning yet we don't know about it so your ascertation that it happened a long time ago is just as much nonsense as me stating it happed this morning

Unfortunately the Utopia won't work. Multiculturalism doesn't work. Religious tards can't coexist with different sects. All of them are manipulated and when times are tough the hatred increases.

They use our differences to keep us enslaved. To add more laws that take away any semblance of privacy we had. And we accept it through guilt.

I'm tired of it. At this point I don't care what happens to our species...it's obvious the ones who control everything don't.

al qaeda is a terrorist group. they kill people. they don't care what age, sex, religion. they just kill, as many as they can where ever they can. hasn't got to do with honor, or race, or gays, etc
this case has got nothing to do with this killers religion-i don't even know what religion he follows. i do know he claims to be a member of al qaeda-and that he targeted soldiers and jews because he doesn't agree with their politics and their being involved with afganistan.

as for santorum, etc-they are perceived as anti-women becase santorum and his ilk are anti-women. they want to run this country based on their religious beliefs. it's no different than any other theocracy, or attempted theocracy. it has no business in this country!

i haven't compared christianity to muslims, because it's got nothing to do with that at all. this shooting and other terrorist acts have to do with terror-with murder. you're the one who keeps trying to make it about religion-it's not about that. but you're determined to drag it back to religion. good luck with that.

you obviously didn't read the slate article, or if you did you stuck your fingers in your ears or your hands over your eyes because it doesn't jibe with your beliefs or your mindset.

look at the okla city bombing, a terrorist act. did that have to do with religion? no. it was just a mass killing, much like those carried out by al qaeda. a different type of serial killing by a couple of whackos.

i don't feel guilt. i think they are taking away rights and adding more restrictions as a way to make us 'safer' when instead it makes us anything but.

'Authorities in Afghanistan confirmed that Merah had been arrested for bomb making in the lawless southern province of Kandahar in 2007 but escaped months later in a massive Taliban prison break.'


http://news.yahoo.com/french-police-...040326838.html

Most feel guilt. Comparing Islamic terrorists to Ku Klux Klan is just mentally accepting that it will never end.

Simply put the Ku Klux Klan didn't have enough stroke to have a government help them overthrow Mexico. Al Qaeda had help with Libya.

Lets have some perspective and stop apologizing for people that have the same skin tone as you. And this goes for all races. Blacks do it too. They justify radicals like the Black Panthers and Nation of Islam.

It has to stop.

And you know I speak in generalities. I'm not singling you out. It's the overall mindset of the herd that I'm talking about.

And there you have it folks. How did he get in France?

This seems like a Patsy to me.

he's a citizen of france. not sure for how long. perhaps all his life? they also arrested his girlfriend and his brother.

Traced him thru his brothers computer IP address. Used it to look at add for motorcycle posted by one of the paratroopers he killed.

Rick Santorum is such an awesome christian. He loves those alive babies.. unless you are born a woman, or gay.. or god forbid born into a spanish speaking family.

He gives christians SUCH a good name. I think I'll go to bible study tonight.

you are correct

Martin Luther King Jr was a good christian.

actually:

Number of U.S. Hate Groups Is Rising, Report Says
By KIM SEVERSON
Published: March 7, 2012


ATLANTA — Fed by antagonism toward President Obama, resentment toward changing racial demographics and the economic rift between rich and poor, the number of so-called hate groups and antigovernment organizations in the nation has continued to grow, according to a report released Wednesday by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

The center, which has kept track of such groups for 30 years, recorded 1,018 hate groups operating last year.

The number of groups whose ideology is organized against specific racial, religious, sexual or other characteristics has risen steadily since 2000, when 602 were identified, the center said. Antigay groups, for example, have risen to 27 from 17 in 2010.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/08/us...ef=todayspaper

and this:




The KKK is also suffering from a proliferation of competitors. People who wanted to join a white supremacist movement back in the 1920s didn’t have a lot of choices. Today, there are countless options, enabling an extremist to find a group that matches his personal brand of intolerance. The more extreme groups in the burgeoning patriot movement cater to anti-Muslim, homophobic, and xenophobic sentiment, with less animosity toward African-Americans and Jews. Aryan Nations offers a heavy focus on Christian identity. Some groups preach more violence, while others offer a veneer of intellectualism.


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...isrc=sl_iphone

i thought most of the aryon's follow odenism (sp?) not christianity.

never heard of it.

i wonder if they took their name from a subsect of christianity back in the days of constantine, when he oulawed aryanism? i'll have to look up odenism.

it's odinism:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odinic_Rite

didn't see any reference to the aryan group tho.


aryan nation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_Nation

Aryan Nations is a white supremacist religious organization originally based in Hayden Lake, Idaho. Richard Girnt Butler founded the group in the 1970s, as an arm of the Christian Identity organization Church of Jesus Christ–Christian. The Federal Bureau of Investigation has called Aryan Nations a "terrorist threat",[1] and the RAND Corporation has called it the "first truly nationwide terrorist network" in the US.[2]

and look what else i found, an older article:

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/03/29/schuster.column/

An unholy alliance
Aryan Nation leader reaches out to al Qaeda
By Henry Schuster
CNN
Tuesday, March 29, 2005 Posted: 1942 GMT (0342 HKT)


Editor's Note: Henry Schuster, a senior producer in CNN's Investigative Unit, has been covering terrorism for more than a decade. Each week in "Tracking Terror," he reports on the people and organizations driving international and domestic terrorism and efforts to combat those. He is the author of the newly published book, "Hunting Eric Rudolph."


SEBRING, Florida (CNN) -- A couple of hours up the road from where some September 11 hijackers learned to fly, the new head of Aryan Nation is praising them -- and trying to create an unholy alliance between his white supremacist group and al Qaeda.

"You say they're terrorists, I say they're freedom fighters. And I want to instill the same jihadic feeling in our peoples' heart, in the Aryan race, that they have for their father, who they call Allah."

With his long beard and potbelly, August Kreis looks more like a washed up member of ZZ Top than an aspiring revolutionary.

Don't let appearances fool you: his résumé includes stops at some of America's nastiest extremist groups -- Posse Comitatus, the Ku Klux Klan and Aryan Nation.

Glad they got him.

so far refusing to give himself up. and more details emerging on the suspect:

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/03/21/wo...ntent=My+Yahoo

Merah was sentenced 15 times by a Toulouse juvenile court when he was a minor, Molins said.

He was back in a Toulouse court February 24 for causing an accident with injuries and driving without a license and was sentenced to a month in jail, his lawyer Christian Etelin said on BFM-TV.

He had not begun serving that sentence, Etelin said.

The attorney also said Merah went to Afghanistan two years ago.

He was sent back to France after Afghan police picked him up at a traffic stop and alerted international forces to his presence, Molins said.

The French defense ministry said Merah had twice tried to join the French military. His first attempt was in the northern city of Lille, where he was refused because of prior convictions, and his second, in July 2010, was in Toulouse, where he sought to join the Foreign Legion but left during the first round of tests.

The suspect belongs to a group called Forsane Alizza, or Knights of Glory, Gueant said.



........guy sounds like he's always had issues-so i guess he found a group that would 'accept' him. you see similar behaviors with those who join other hate groups, with the two columbine killers, etc.

Still!? Thought they got him hours ago!

Not much of a dedicated militant jihadist if he's trying to stay alive and escape.

they should blow his head off and save time

i'm sure they want him alive and in one piece to see what info they can glean from him, if any.

Unfortunately true. Anti had an excellent suggestion, however.

they still haven't got the guy out-unbelievable.


and boy, it sure gets quiet in this room after 2 or so.

It's almost croissant time. Might want to get him some espresso too.

Danzig, the campaign we have been conducting since 9/11 may not be against Islam per se, but it is definitely against militant Islam. Al qaeda is as much a religious movement as it is a political movement.