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mclem0822 03-13-2012 03:49 PM

Nfl Free Agency
 
Thoughts on your team, needs, players you'd like your team to target? Some player visits I am hearing about thus far: QB Chad Henne and WR Laurent Robinson to visit the Jags. DE Mario Williams to visit Buffalo.
Just got a report the Bucs and Vincent Jackson are close to a deal.
Redskins reportedly signing Pierre Garçon.
There's a fit to stretch the field with RG3!

Bigsmc 03-13-2012 03:53 PM

The Bucs love to give the illusion that they are actually going after name players. They make a half hearted attempt, then tell their fans, "well, we tried" and expect us to pat them on the back for attempting to spend money in free agency. When in fact, they had no intention whatsoever to spend that money.

I will be stunned if they sign Vincent Jackson.

mclem0822 03-13-2012 04:05 PM

Redskins....
 
Close to signing WR Josh Morgan. If memory serves broke his ankle last season, somewhat risky need to see how he comes back.

MaTH716 03-13-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mclem0822 (Post 845502)
Close to signing WR Josh Morgan. If memory serves broke his ankle last season, somewhat risky need to see how he comes back.

Right, cause trading your 1st round pick for like the next 3 years for a QB prospect out of that Baylor QB factory isn't a risky proposition. :rolleyes:

jms62 03-13-2012 05:05 PM

Brandon Marshall to Bears for 2 Treys

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/B...o-trade-031312

mclem0822 03-13-2012 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 845521)
Right, cause trading your 1st round pick for like the next 3 years for a QB prospect out of that Baylor QB factory isn't a risky proposition. :rolleyes:

First of all, one of those 3 number 1's was this season, we simply swapped spots with the Rams, so in reality it's only 2 number 1's. Second, multiple teams were willing to make the same deal from what i have heard, we loved this kid and got it done! I do not give a crap about all the guys that have played at Baylor before, it truly means squat Math, this kid has a ton of talent and i will repeat once again he fits the Redskins system perfectly. Why not comment on what you see in this kid RG3? The move has been made, he's going to be the guy.

mclem0822 03-13-2012 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 845495)
The Bucs love to give the illusion that they are actually going after name players. They make a half hearted attempt, then tell their fans, "well, we tried" and expect us to pat them on the back for attempting to spend money in free agency. When in fact, they had no intention whatsoever to spend that money.

I will be stunned if they sign Vincent Jackson.

I dunno Bigs, the quotes i keep hearing are "deep in negotiations" so it's sounding like they will land him. They couls use a number 1 WR cuz from i can see Mike Williams may be no better than a number 2.

mclem0822 03-13-2012 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 845495)
The Bucs love to give the illusion that they are actually going after name players. They make a half hearted attempt, then tell their fans, "well, we tried" and expect us to pat them on the back for attempting to spend money in free agency. When in fact, they had no intention whatsoever to spend that money.

I will be stunned if they sign Vincent Jackson.

Done deal 5 year deal bro.

mclem0822 03-13-2012 07:59 PM

Jason Campbell signs a 1 year deal with the Bears.

mclem0822 03-13-2012 08:39 PM

Jeff Fisher and CB Cortland Finnegan reunited with the Rams 5 years $50 million

MaTH716 03-13-2012 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mclem0822 (Post 845552)
First of all, one of those 3 number 1's was this season, we simply swapped spots with the Rams, so in reality it's only 2 number 1's. Second, multiple teams were willing to make the same deal from what i have heard, we loved this kid and got it done! I do not give a crap about all the guys that have played at Baylor before, it truly means squat Math, this kid has a ton of talent and i will repeat once again he fits the Redskins system perfectly. Why not comment on what you see in this kid RG3? The move has been made, he's going to be the guy.

You mentioned about Josh Morgan being a risky signing because he was coming off a broken ankle, my point was that they have a lot bigger fish to fry, than worrying about if Josh Morgan is going to be a bust.

Time will only tell on how good RG3 is going to be, but they are at least giving him some weapons to throw too. That is, if he has time to throw. You're a Skins fan, do they need to address the offensive line or are they good enough to protect the kid? It seems like they have spent a lot of money on the reciever position and if the kid doesn't have time to throw, it will all be for naught. It will all end up being a bit short sighted. You tell me.

Cannon Shell 03-13-2012 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 845579)
You mentioned about Josh Morgan being a risky signing because he was coming off a broken ankle, my point was that they have a lot bigger fish to fry, than worrying about if Josh Morgan is going to be a bust.

Time will only tell on how good RG3 is going to be, but they are at least giving him some weapons to throw too. That is, if he has time to throw. You're a Skins fan, do they need to address the offensive line or are they good enough to protect the kid? It seems like they have spent a lot of money on the reciever position and if the kid doesn't have time to throw, it will all be for naught. It will all end up being a bit short sighted. You tell me.

Are there high expectations for Josh Morgan?

Bigsmc 03-14-2012 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mclem0822 (Post 845556)
Done deal 5 year deal bro.

That's great. Maybe they are going to spend like they say they are going to.

One piece of many that they need to be competitive. Defense has needs from front to back.

Rudeboyelvis 03-14-2012 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 845607)
That's great. Maybe they are going to spend like they say they are going to.

One piece of many that they need to be competitive. Defense has needs from front to back.

I heard that they are not re-signing Faine - the have no one @ left guard either and the rest of the o-line is suspect at best - they better pay Carl Nicks or they're in trouble.... They can pick up an all-pro WR set and it won't do them any good with Freeman on his asz

mclem0822 03-14-2012 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 845607)
That's great. Maybe they are going to spend like they say they are going to.

One piece of many that they need to be competitive. Defense has needs from front to back.

The signed Eric Wright there's a corner need addressed. I am hearing they are a leading contender to sign Curtis Loften as well, that guy makes a ton of tackles at the LB spot. That would be a very good signing in my opinion.

mclem0822 03-14-2012 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 845607)
That's great. Maybe they are going to spend like they say they are going to.

One piece of many that they need to be competitive. Defense has needs from front to back.

Bucs just struck again. They have signed Carl Nix one of the best guards available. Tampa's new regime is coming strong.

mclem0822 03-14-2012 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 845579)
You mentioned about Josh Morgan being a risky signing because he was coming off a broken ankle, my point was that they have a lot bigger fish to fry, than worrying about if Josh Morgan is going to be a bust.

Time will only tell on how good RG3 is going to be, but they are at least giving him some weapons to throw too. That is, if he has time to throw. You're a Skins fan, do they need to address the offensive line or are they good enough to protect the kid? It seems like they have spent a lot of money on the reciever position and if the kid doesn't have time to throw, it will all be for naught. It will all end up being a bit short sighted. You tell me.

I would love them to make a play for Erik Winston, could they use tackle depth yes. I know Winston is visiting MIA and a couple more teams, he may be gone before they get a chance. But they are addressing needs, I think the potential is there to be much improved. Keeping Adam Carriker was a good move too, that D-Line is stable and very much on the improve as well.

Bigsmc 03-14-2012 09:21 AM

I stand corrected. I guess the Glazers got tired of empty seats (mine included) and realized that they needed to put a product on the field.

They also realized that building through the draft doesn't work unless you draft really well.

GBBob 03-14-2012 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 845631)
I stand corrected. I guess the Glazers got tired of empty seats (mine included) and realized that they needed to put a product on the field.

They also realized that building through the draft doesn't work unless you draft really well.

Still need Freeman to return to '10 and not duplicate '11

mclem0822 03-14-2012 09:30 AM

Bears signed KR Eric Weems late of ATL, I assume he'll handle kick off returns and Devin Hester will handle punts I assume.

mclem0822 03-14-2012 09:38 AM

Think this happened late last night. SD signed WR Robert Meachem, guess he'll replace a few of those Vincent Jackson catches.

Bigsmc 03-14-2012 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 845633)
Still need Freeman to return to '10 and not duplicate '11

No doubt. The biggest contribution to the Freeman dropoff was that the schedule was markedly tougher in '11 so his mediocre play that was beating the likes of Seattle, Cleveland and Pre-Cam Carolina didn't fly against GB, Dallas and Post-Cam Carolina.

These signings guarantee nothing. They only say that ownership is back into it. They haven't been for the past several years. Instead, they tried to sell season ticket holders on the notion that they are building through the draft only to turn around and draft busts like Gerald McCoy and make him the highest paid player on the team. I am only hoping the Bears will take him off the Bucs hands like they did with their previous DL bust, Gaines Adams.

It's a start and only a start. When you are as bad as they are, the holes are numerous and glaring.

Calzone Lord 03-14-2012 10:26 AM

The Cleveland Browns are doing nothing.

I thought for sure they would make a strong play for Matt Flynn.

They haven't even signed a few of their own starters from last year and they haven't reportedly contacted any free agents -- including Flynn.

They have more than $20 million in cap space.

Meanwhile -- on the other end of Lake Erie -- the Bills are desperately trying to get better. They are going to be the high-bidder and overpay for Mario Williams. It basically will just come down to how willing he is to play in Buffalo.

mclem0822 03-14-2012 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 845647)
The Cleveland Browns are doing nothing.

I thought for sure they would make a strong play for Matt Flynn.

They haven't even signed a few of their own starters from last year and they haven't reportedly contacted any free agents -- including Flynn.

They have more than $20 million in cap space.

Meanwhile -- on the other end of Lake Erie -- the Bills are desperately trying to get better. They are going to be the high-bidder and overpay for Mario Williams. It basically will just come down to how willing he is to play in Buffalo.

I was listening to some Cleveland Sports talk radio last night. The host and the fans are getting frustrated, they are saying they just seem not to be able to pull the trigger. Now the lose Eric Wright, lord knows they need WR help and is it about time to give up on Colt McCoy. I assume they will draft Blackmon, but I guess that depends on how they feel at QB at this point.

Calzone Lord 03-14-2012 11:13 AM

They lost Eric Wright to the Lions last year.

The Browns fans here are about as negative, defeatist, and pissed off as I've ever seen them ... and they shouldn't be because of the stockpile of draft picks and good young talent they have on the roster.

The division is turning with the Steelers and Ravens ancient defenses... if the Browns don't try and improve with free agents...the process of coming back is going to take longer.

MaTH716 03-14-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 845657)
They lost Eric Wright to the Lions last year.

The Browns fans here are about as negative, defeatist, and pissed off as I've ever seen them ... and they shouldn't be because of the stockpile of draft picks and good young talent they have on the roster.

The division is turning with the Steelers and Ravens ancient defenses... if the Browns don't try and improve with free agents...the process of coming back is going to take longer.

This will be Mike Holmgren's 3rd year on the job and you give him a pass for the first one because he had to evaluate what he had. This year will probably be a struggle again, but if you are a Browns fan you got to hope that next year they begin to turn the corner.

Calzone Lord 03-14-2012 11:28 AM

The Bucs just got a great guard.

I still think they overpaid for Vincent Jackson -- but he will help them a ton the next two years.

The Saints are the losers of this free agency. The Bucs are easily the team who improved the roster the most so far.

mclem0822 03-14-2012 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 845657)
They lost Eric Wright to the Lions last year.

The Browns fans here are about as negative, defeatist, and pissed off as I've ever seen them ... and they shouldn't be because of the stockpile of draft picks and good young talent they have on the roster.

The division is turning with the Steelers and Ravens ancient defenses... if the Browns don't try and improve with free agents...the process of coming back is going to take longer.

My mistake on Wright, I had forgotten he was gone before. I hear ya, that's the way the fans sound to me as well.

mclem0822 03-14-2012 12:22 PM

Kyle Orton gets a 3 year deal to back up Romo in DAL.

mclem0822 03-14-2012 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 845661)
The Bucs just got a great guard.

I still think they overpaid for Vincent Jackson -- but he will help them a ton the next two years.

The Saints are the losers of this free agency. The Bucs are easily the team who improved the roster the most so far.

Overall I would agree thus far the Bucs have done very well at different areas.

mclem0822 03-14-2012 12:29 PM

TE John Carlson (injured last season in SEA) signs a deal in MIN. If I am not mistaken Vinsante Shancoe is a free agent. I think Den could be a good fit for I'm to go. It will be interesting to see where Dallas Clark lands as well. Healthy I think he's still a talent.

Clip-Clop 03-14-2012 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mclem0822 (Post 845681)
Kyle Orton gets a 3 year deal to back up Romo in DAL.

Fan-fkn-tastic, now my two least favorite QBs are on my favorite team. Go Broncos.

mclem0822 03-14-2012 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 845692)
Fan-fkn-tastic, now my two least favorite QBs are on my favorite team. Go Broncos.

So your not an Orton or Romo fan, but are a Cowboys fan? Thinking of converting to Tebowism are ya? :D

Clip-Clop 03-14-2012 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mclem0822 (Post 845695)
So your not an Orton or Romo fan, but are a Cowboys fan? Thinking of converting to Tebowism are ya? :D

Cowboys fan since '77, living here in Denver it was hard not to get all wrapped up in last years commotion. Looking forward to season seats being worth a damn next year with Manning hopefully at the helm.

MaTH716 03-14-2012 02:47 PM

Former Cowboys TE Martellus Bennett's signs with the Champs: 1 year, $2.5 million

horseofcourse 03-14-2012 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 845657)
They lost Eric Wright to the Lions last year.

The Browns fans here are about as negative, defeatist, and pissed off as I've ever seen them ... and they shouldn't be because of the stockpile of draft picks and good young talent they have on the roster.

The division is turning with the Steelers and Ravens ancient defenses... if the Browns don't try and improve with free agents...the process of coming back is going to take longer.

There is no coming back. They are beyond boring as a football team. As a native of northeast Ohio, it is much easier to follow the Cavs and INdians than this abortion of a team. I really wish they'd go to LA.

Antitrust32 03-14-2012 04:17 PM

Djax will remain in Philly for 5 more years!! :$:

Danzig 03-14-2012 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mclem0822 (Post 845681)
Kyle Orton gets a 3 year deal to back up Romo in DAL.

'boys fans better hope romo doesn't get hurt.

Clip-Clop 03-14-2012 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 845764)
'boys fans better hope romo doesn't get hurt.

After all these years of hoping he would...

Coach Pants 03-14-2012 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 845758)
Djax will remain in Philly for 5 more years!! :$:

Yeah he's going to have a bad season. No need to try now.


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