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Riot 03-08-2012 01:01 PM

Happy International Women's Day
 
Happy International Women's Day, first implemented in the early 1900's.

In celebration, let's reflect upon the Rush Limbaugh's of the world, the politicians who are currently attempting to overturn laws that protect long-established women's rights, and the few posters here who repeatedly grace us with their hate-filled, nasty, misogynistic comments directed at some of the women here (because "they deserve it" and "they make me behave that way")

It makes us appreciate why the day is still needed in 2012.

Antitrust32 03-08-2012 01:21 PM

nobody hates you because you are a woman. except maybe nascar.

Riot 03-08-2012 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 844223)
nobody hates you because you are a woman. except maybe nascar.

You really didn't need to step up and embarrass yourself that way :rolleyes:

The comment was about the words and attitudes some people choose to use here - not who particular individuals dislike and why. Because there has been far more than one person on this list who has been on the receiving end of those particular individuals over the years.

Antitrust32 03-08-2012 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 844224)
You really didn't need to step up and embarrass yourself that way :rolleyes:

i am soooo embarrassed for responding to a post you had made mostly about yourself.


I plan on celebrating women tonight.


so there.

Riot 03-08-2012 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 844227)
i am soooo embarrassed for responding to a post you had made mostly about yourself.

I'm sorry you've completely missed the point and are unable to understand words.

bigrun 03-08-2012 01:29 PM

Happy Women's Day...have a good one....Meanwhile..:(


McDonnell signs disputed abortion ultrasound bill.

Check the video at the link.
http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/v...ll-ar-1748920/


Also ltr to ed...

Keep the GOP out of OB-GYN.



Quote:

Editor, Times-Dispatch:

Did I miss something? The party that wants government out of our lives wants to dictate the practice of obstetrics and gynecology?

Lorna Wyckoff's Commentary column, "Sliding back to sadder times," is spot on. Her friend was one of the lucky ones who survived an illegal abortion. During my training years my attitude about abortion was forever influenced by being at the bedside of an 18 year old girl and watching helplessly as she died of uncontrollable sepsis resulting from a coat-hanger, back alley abortion. Choosing a safe medical abortion is a decision to be made by an individual woman and no one else.

Antitrust32 03-08-2012 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 844205)
, and the few posters here who repeatedly grace us with their hate-filled, nasty, misogynistic comments directed at some of the women here (because "they deserve it" and "they make me behave that way")
.


yep. cause this had absolutely nothing to do with you.

I must just not be able to understand words.

Riot 03-08-2012 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 844230)
Happy Women's Day...have a good one....Meanwhile..:(

McDonnell signs disputed abortion ultrasound bill.

"Real men want empowered women" :tro: (and for Anti, change that to "real women")

McDonnell has now completely trashed his Vice Presidential ambitions. The only ones left are Christie, Rubio and Daniels.

The new bill doesn't have the transvaginal internal ultrasound, it has external ultrasound, but it's still the Big government dictating health care and costing people money for unnecessary health procedures - with felony penalties!

These people have zero appreciation that they "do" exactly what they accuse others of. It's crazy!

There was a good discussion on one of the political programs in the last day or so (Morning Joe maybe?) about how, 20 years ago, people warned the GOP that they would have to abandon the John Birch Society and the crazies if they wanted to survive as a political party.

Instead, the GOP has gone off the deep end, and embraced the far, far right wing faction whole hog. It's crazy. They are imploding, and they are the cause of their own destruction.

Riot 03-08-2012 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 844232)
yep. cause this had absolutely nothing to do with you.

I must just not be able to understand words.

Yes, obviously I've been on the receiving end, but others here have, too. I've been on this list for 4-5 years by now, I guess. The point is that some people here choose to treat women that way - and it's still tolerated by society. Just like McDonnell, just like Limbaugh, just like Santorum, just like some Catholic priests ... women are still not equal people in 2012, in the eyes of some.

Yes, you didn't understand the words. You jumped right in and made it personal, and I guess you are not embarrassed to be exposed to be superficial, shallow and hateful in that way, but I think it's pretty sad and embarrassing for you. See, you hating me doesn't reflect on me or demean me - it reflects only on you. Just like people here being nasty and rude and foul-mouthed doesn't reflect on the person they are attacking - it reflects only upon them.

Why don't you just go back and delete all your posts from the thread?

Antitrust32 03-08-2012 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 844239)
Yes, obviously I've been on the receiving end, but others here have, too. The point is that some people choose to treat women that way - and it's still tolerated by society.

Yes, you didn't understand the words. You jumped right in and made it personal, and I guess you are not embarrassed to be exposed to be superficial, shallow and hateful in that way, but I think it's pretty sad and embarrassing for you. Why don't you just go back and delete all your posts from the thread?

I'm the one who's exposed by exposing the pity party thread you made for yourself?

okie dokie numb nuts.

Riot 03-08-2012 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 844240)
I'm the one who's exposed by exposing the pity party thread you made for yourself?

okie dokie numb nuts.

Again: sorry you can't understand the point.

dellinger63 03-09-2012 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 844205)
Happy International Women's Day, first implemented in the early 1900's.

In celebration, let's reflect.

How about reflecting on the fact in America a woman has the right to terminate a pregnancy while in many Arab/African countries a man has the right to terminate his wife and or daughters in the name of personal honor? Or if by chance the wife has too many daughters?

How come Arab sons never dishonor their fathers?

Danzig 03-09-2012 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 844401)
How about reflecting on the fact in America a woman has the right to terminate a pregnancy while in many Arab/African countries a man has the right to terminate his wife and or daughters in the name of personal honor? Or if by chance the wife has too many daughters?

How come Arab sons never dishonor their fathers?

it is international women's day, not american women't day. i guess that escaped your notice.
things are far from where they should be. are things better here than elsewhere? yes. are they great? not necessarily. are we sliding backwards in some cases? absolutely. you bring up a valid point tho. in many areas of the world, women aren't treated as second class. they are treated far worse than that, as chattel, as property, as dispensable, as inhuman. it's got to stop.

Coach Pants 03-09-2012 08:51 AM

National Lets Emasculate White Men Day

dellinger63 03-09-2012 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 844410)
it is international women's day, not american women't day. i guess that escaped your notice.
things are far from where they should be. are things better here than elsewhere? yes. are they great? not necessarily. are we sliding backwards in some cases? absolutely. you bring up a valid point tho. in many areas of the world, women aren't treated as second class. they are treated far worse than that, as chattel, as property, as dispensable, as inhuman. it's got to stop.

International is why I brought it up. Riot seems to have ignored that in yet another self loathing America moment.

I mean what's worse. An ultra sound prior to an abortion or getting a beating for driving a car?

Coach Pants 03-09-2012 09:01 AM

Or having a day for every thing or person in the world excluding white men.

Why do people want these days to begin with? It's a sign of weakness in my book.

"Hey look at me I need to be put in a subset because I'm a punk as.s. Stop Kony 2012."

Typical sissy, borderline retarded folks that practice slacktivism so they can be smug like their stupid friends.

Danzig 03-09-2012 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 844414)
International is why I brought it up. Riot seems to have ignored that in yet another self loathing America moment.

I mean what's worse. An ultra sound prior to an abortion or getting a beating for driving a car?

well, i can't see her posts so i missed out on all that fun.

Riot 03-09-2012 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 844401)
How about reflecting on the fact in America a woman has the right to terminate a pregnancy while in many Arab/African countries a man has the right to terminate his wife and or daughters in the name of personal honor? Or if by chance the wife has too many daughters?

Yes, that's a terrible thing.

Riot 03-09-2012 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 844414)
International is why I brought it up. Riot seems to have ignored that in yet another self loathing America moment.

??? No, I didn't. God, Dell, you're simply stupid.

Let's attack you, for you not mentioning the horrors of Darfur in this thread, and the child slave trade in Dominica. Oh, wait - that would be stupid. Duh. Get over yourself.

America currently is undergoing a terrible attack on women's rights. Yeah, I mentioned it. You describe that as "self loathing"? Go join Limbaugh.

bigrun 03-09-2012 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 844414)
International is why I brought it up. Riot seems to have ignored that in yet another self loathing America moment.

I mean what's worse. An ultra sound prior to an abortion or getting a beating for driving a car?


Yeah, good thing we live in the good ole US of A where we are free and safe...We don't beat (most of us) or kill our wives..we just force them to have unwelcome invasive procedures...

http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/l...ns-ar-1751642/

Danzig 03-09-2012 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 844528)
Yeah, good thing we live in the good ole US of A where we are free and safe...We don't beat (most of us) or kill our wives..we just force them to have unwelcome invasive procedures...

http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/l...ns-ar-1751642/

yeah, but that's somehow 'better' than the controls and abuses elsewhere. guess because the doctor sings god bless america while doing whatever pols demand whether his patient likes it or not.

Riot 03-09-2012 03:37 PM


Riot 03-09-2012 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 844531)
yeah, but that's somehow 'better' than the controls and abuses elsewhere. guess because the doctor sings god bless america while doing whatever pols demand whether his patient likes it or not.

C'mon, doctors want old politicians to tell them how to practice medicine :tro:

Cannon Shell 03-10-2012 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 844528)
Yeah, good thing we live in the good ole US of A where we are free and safe...We don't beat (most of us) or kill our wives..we just force them to have unwelcome invasive procedures...

http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/l...ns-ar-1751642/

From link

Olivia Hall said the bill set a dangerous precedent that should worry people on both sides of the abortion debate.

"Whether you're pro-life or pro-choice, you should be concerned that the government is mandating a medical procedure," she said



Hey Olivia you will love Obamacare where Govt mandates medical procedures for everything...

Coach Pants 03-10-2012 06:37 AM

Yeah like there totally isn't an attack on our basic liberties. I'm positive death panels aren't in our future. Jon Stewart mocked it!

herkhorse 03-10-2012 08:26 AM

http://youtu.be/LS37SNYjg8w

bigrun 03-10-2012 11:22 AM

Recent debate over contraception comes as GOP loses gains among women.




Quote:

The fragile gains Republicans had been making among female voters have been erased, a shift that has coincided with what has become a national shouting match over reproductive issues, potentially handing President Obama and the Democrats an enormous advantage this fall.

A number of polls show that Obama’s approval among women has risen significantly since December, even as it has remained flat among men. The same trend, which began before the controversy in recent weeks, is also showing up further down the ballot

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...c=nl_headlines

Danzig 03-10-2012 01:41 PM

it's funny that republicans say they want govt. out of healthcare, that there shouldn't be rules and regs forcing birth control coverage. it's just more govt. intrusion they say. it's private, not something that govt. should be intruding upon.
then they turn around and put rules and regs in place regarding treatment by doctors and women should those private goings on venture into the abortion zone.
but on the other hand you have democrats who want to legislate coverages, and then turn around and argue aginst legislation when it comes to abortion.

that is what you call blatant hypocrisy, with both engaging-which is typical of them in so many areas.

and we're the corn caught between the wheels in the mill.

Riot 03-10-2012 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 844625)
Hey Olivia you will love Obamacare where Govt mandates medical procedures for everything...

ObamaCares doesn't mandate any procedures at all.

The insurance companies mandate procedures right now, and always have dictated the medical care your doctor can provide, that they will pay for.

Riot 03-10-2012 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 844770)
but on the other hand you have democrats who want to legislate coverages, and then turn around and argue aginst legislation when it comes to abortion.

that is what you call blatant hypocrisy, with both engaging-which is typical of them in so many areas.

and we're the corn caught between the wheels in the mill.

My parents, on Medicare, don't mind at all that they are "caught between the wheels in the mill" with closure of the prescription drug donut hole, and the decreasing of costs for their Medicare copays. Those lifetime conservative Republicans are very grateful to the President and the Democrats for that. And they know that ObamaCare has provided that.

I'm grateful that I am caught in the "grinding wheel" that enables me to purchase health insurance now that actually covers my health problems, rather than excludes them at a higher cost!

Thank you, ObamaCares, the Dems, and the Pres.

Yes, the Dems feel women should be in control of their own bodies. The Republicans want to mandate Big Government Control of your healthcare.

Riot 03-10-2012 03:10 PM

Report: Some papers won’t be running next week’s ‘Doonesbury’ strips

A Romenesko reader emails: “Next week’s ‘Doonesbury’ cartoons, on the Texas anti-abortion/mandatory ultrasound law, may cause some newspapers to use “Flashbacks” instead of the live cartoons.”

I asked around and was told that the Oregonian and Dallas Morning News are among the papers that have discussed pulling the strips. (I’ve left messages with editors at both newspapers to see what they’ve decided.) UPDATE: “We thought the strips were over the line for the comics pages and won’t be running them,” says Oregonian features editor JoLene Krawczak. “We’ll tell readers where they can read them online.”

UPDATE #2: The Dallas Morning News will run the strips, and have a story tomorrow about them.

UPDATE #3: Garry Trudeau talks about the strips.

The Chicago Tribune, which pulled “Doonesbury” strips in September and February, will be running them, says associate managing editor/entertainment Geoff Brown.

Here’s what’s in the strips:

Monday:
Young woman arrives for her pre-termination sonogram, is told to take a seat in the shaming room, a middle-aged male state legislator will be right with her.

Tuesday:
He asks her if this is her first visit to the center, she replies no, that she’s been using the contraceptive services for some time. He says, “I see. Do your parents know you’re a slut?”

Wednesday:
A different male is reading to her about the transvaginal exam process.



Thursday:
In the stirrups, she is telling a nurse that she doesn’t want a transvaginal exam. Doctor says “Sorry miss, you’re first trimester. The male Republicans who run Texas require that all abortion seekers be examined with a 10″ shaming wand.” She asks “Will it hurt?” Nurse says, “Well, it’s not comfortable, honey. But Texas feels you should have thought of that.” Doctor says, “By the authority invested in me by the GOP base, I thee rape.”

Friday
: Doctor is explaining that the Texas GOP requires her to have an intimate encounter with her fetus. He begins describing it to her. Last panel, he says, “Shall I describe it’s hopes and dreams?” She replies, “If it wants to be the next Rick Perry, I’ve made up my mind.”

Saturday:
Back in the reception area, she asks where she goes now for the actual abortion. Receptionist tells her there’s a 24-hour waiting period: “The Republican Party is hoping you get caught in a shame spiral and change your mind.” Last panel: She says, “A final indignity.” Receptionist replies, “Not quite. Here’s your bill.”

Is your newspaper using “Flashback” strips next week? Let me know at Jim@JimRomenesko.com.

Amy Nelson of the St. Paul Pioneer Press emails: “Re: Doonesbury strips. We are subbing in print at the Pioneer Press and directing readers to online if they want to read them. Not appropriate for Comics pages with its mix of Garfield and The Duplex and not a great solution to move them to the Opinion pages for a week. Just made the decision a few minutes ago.”

http://jimromenesko.com/2012/03/09/r...esbury-strips/

bigrun 03-10-2012 04:06 PM

:D:D:tro::D


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