Jobless report continues to improve - GOP heads explode
 

God's Own Party, in the face of improving jobless numbers during a Democratic administration, double down on calling women sluts, screaming falsely about losses of religious freedomz, and blaming people with no control of the subject about gasoline prices.

Meanwhile, the rest of the United States is trying to move forward in the 21st century.

10 million per job. Way to go!

http://www.challengergray.com/press/...x?PressUid=216

http://www.dol.gov/opa/media/press/eta/ui/current.htm

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articl...mployment-rate

http://www.stltoday.com/news/nationa...c25872f3f.html

I think it's common knowledge that you're incredibly naive.

Good luck with your stupidity.

Dailykosuck knows all !

From Coach's link and oh so true. Funny and sad.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articl...mployment-rate


COSTELLO: I want to talk about the unemployment rate in America.

ABBOTT: Good Subject. Terrible Times. It's about 8 percent.

COSTELLO: That many people are out of work?

ABBOTT: No, that's 16 percent.

COSTELLO: You just said 8 percent.

ABBOTT: 8 percent unemployed.

[Check out the U.S. News Economic Intelligence blog.]

COSTELLO: Right 8 percent out of work.

ABBOTT: No, that's 16 percent.

COSTELLO: Okay, so it's 16 percent unemployed.

ABBOTT: No, that's around 8 percent...

COSTELLO: Waits a minute. Is it 8 percent or 16 percent?

ABBOTT: 8 percent are unemployed. 16 percent are out of work.

COSTELLO: If you are out of work aren't you unemployed?

ABBOTT: No, you can't count the "Out of Work" as unemployed. You have to look for work to be unemployed.

[See a slide show of Mort Zuckerman's 5 Ways to Create More Jobs.]

COSTELLO: But they are out of work!!!

ABBOTT: No, you miss my point.

COSTELLO: What point?

ABBOTT: Someone who doesn't look for work, can't be counted with those who look for work. It wouldn't be fair.

COSTELLO: To who?

ABBOTT: The unemployed.

COSTELLO: But they are all out of work.

ABBOTT:No, the unemployed are actively looking for work ... Those who are out of work stopped looking. They gave up. And, if you give up, you are no longer in the ranks of the unemployed.

COSTELLO: So if you're off the unemployment roles, that would count as less unemployment?

[See the 10 best cities to find a job.]

ABBOTT: Unemployment would go down. Absolutely!

COSTELLO: The unemployment just goes down because you don't look for work?

ABBOTT:

Absolutely it goes down. That's how you get to 8 percent. Otherwise it would be 16 percent. You don't want to read about 16 percent unemployment do ya?

COSTELLO: That would be frightening.

ABBOTT: Absolutely.

COSTELLO: Wait, I got a question for you. That means ther're two ways to bring down the unemployment number?

ABBOTT: Two ways is correct.

COSTELLO: Unemployment can go down if someone gets a job?

[See the 10 worst cities to find a job.]

ABBOTT:Correct.

COSTELLO:And unemployment can also go down if you stop looking for a job?

ABBOTT: Bingo.

COSTELLO: So there are two ways to bring unemployment down, and the easier of the two is to just stop looking for work.

ABBOTT: Now you're thinking like an economist.

COSTELLO: I don't even know what the hell I just said!

yeah, when i saw the one title abbott and costello i had to check it out.

funny, but so sad because it's exactly what they use to show how things are just peachy.

'look, it's getting better'. but it's not.

on top of bad numbers, bad economy, bad debt/deficits, you have an admin who feels perfectly justified in killing citizens with drones.

^^^^^ Ror!!!

love it!

Then isn't the GOP simply dropping the ball? Shouldn't they be pounding the table and questioning the validity of the numbers? Put Barack on the Defensive to justify the numbers.

no because when a Repub is in office the same thing occurs!! So why call it out when you will do the same thing?

moral of the story: Both Parties suck donkey balls. Both parties lie.

It's amazing to watch some of you guys figure out how unemployment numbers have always been calculated, and thinking you are on to something suddenly revealing and secret :D

:tro:

it's amazing that you think things are improving in this country based on a report that you seem to aknowledge is full of crap.

Well, no.

But to respond at your level: nanny, nanny boo-boo back at you :D

Question: What is going to happen to jobless numbers in 3 months?

Answer: They are going to increase, as the Republicans removed unemployment benefits in the worse-hit-jobless states from 99 weeks to only 69 weeks.

Question: Why was that done? Isn't that a terrible thing to do to the unemployed?

Answer: Who cares about the unemployed? The GOP wants jobs numbers to rise, and they'll do anything to win an election.

Coach Pants,

Thanks for the links to the "real" data.

Riot, you have to wake up and smell the stink coming from Washington DC. And The GOP are just a responible as the Liberal Dems. If you think the GOP are having their heads explode over the data released by the dailykos.com you are mistaken. They are just part and parcel of the same rotten to the core system ruining this country just for themselves and their friends in the inner circle benifit.

People like me that work with data every day can spot manipulated numbers a mile away.

The government owns the regular media ie "popular media" with show like American Idol, Dancing etc that most Americans watch and get fooled in to thinking what ever they hear for these plastic talking heads must be true or it would not be on TV.

Coach Pants and people like him and dellinger63, danzig, Rudeboyelvis, jms62 and myself know where to find the "real data" and believe me my head is exploding to see how trerrible things really are and these clowns telling lies every single minute of every single day just to get re-elected and keep doing what they have been doing for the 40 years.

BHO is making the mess Bush and that devil Cheney made while they were in charge even worse. They are all to blame.


This county's political system is Broken PERIOD. Due to this the contry is BROKE. Until we can get a viable third party candidate that owes nothing to the real power brokers of the world (Trilateral and Bilderberg Groups) we will continue down this path, unfortunately there is no clone of Abraham Lincoln the first true third party candiate, who just happened to win the Presidency and oh yeah, saved the country.

Still love racing and always will.:tro:

So what was the point of this thread you started?

You are a bigger flip flopper than Romney!

Isnt the object to Get Into Office? There are millions of numnuts out there that are buying these bullspit unemployment numbers hook line and sinker and a good portion will be voting for "the guy that made the numbers better"

:zz: That makes no sense at all.

As I said: "Jobless report continues to improve - GOP heads explode"

Carry on exploding :D

:tro:

there are millions of Riot's out there.

okie dokie numb nuts

of course that's the object. that's why i always remind people that when a pols lips move, he's lying.
and those who bought or continue to buy obama's lines( or any other candidate, politician, officeholder)-they're just naive, or have their head in the sand, or just want to believe. when he does't do what he said he was, it's someone else's fault.
when the patriot act that obama said he was going to change or kill continues with no changes, well there's a reason for that.when he and his minions say that the constitution says they can kill citizens without due process, there's logic mired somewhere too. it's just that only believers are smart enough, keen enough, perceptive enough to understand all the nuances that us dumb f^cks can't grasp. it also explains why i have a couple people on ignore, i have zero interest in reading their messages from far out there land.

Yeah, plowing through the superficial, shallow, name-calling haters gets pretty obnoxious.

you do realize YOU are the one she has on ignore right?

oh geez this is funny

The unemployment numbers have been calculated this way - independent of who is President - for some years now. Everybody knows who they include, and who they do not.

The screaming that "the numbers are not real" is absurd - because everybody who pays attention to them knows what they include and do not. They know the caveats. And the numbers over the years have always reflected the same thing as far as inclusion/exclusion, and the exclusions and caveats are already known to everyone who is reading the numbers, and is estimatable separately.

So dismissing the numbers as completely invalid is pretty absurdly ridiculous.

Yes, numbnuts, that's why I said it :D

Is this really that hard for you to follow? :p

click 'user cp' on top left
four sections on left-hand side
look at miscellaneous-second option is buddy/ignore list.

click on that



To remove a user from either the Buddy or Ignore Lists, un-tick the box next to their name and click the 'Save List' button. or add new name to list.

it's a great stress reliever. you can post what you wish and now have to worry about nonsense in reply!


well...til someone quotes them-then you just scroll down quickly. :D

Or, you can just pretend you have them on ignore, and occasionally directly answer them by mistake :rolleyes:

Yes, you are SOOO important that people just PRETEND to have you on ignore.

Lets hear it for central banks and Franklin Roosevelt.



*please baby Jesus let her spin that graph*

ROR, at another site guy put me on ignore because i quoted a poster that was on his ignore list and he was forced to read it...:D

I'm not important at all. Thus your incessant attention is confusing.

Were his eyes held open a 'la "A Clockwork Orange"? :D Yeah, he was "forced" to read it?

LOL - I love the internet, it has great pictures of cute kittens and puppies :-)

And it's a home to the mildly psychotic.

it's cause i loooooooove you riot :{>::{>:

Love hurts, huh? :D

Post the student loan numbers.

http://economywatch.msnbc.msn.com/_n...ood-to-be-true

Employment data may be too good to be true

By John W. Schoen, Senior Producer


At first glance, the U.S. job market seems to be moving in the right direction, although at a crawl. When you take a closer look, some of the data showing improving conditions for job-seekers may be too good to be true.



and further down:

Some suspect the government's formulas for smoothing out seasonal factors may be inadvertently inflating the numbers. Gallup chief economist Dennis Jacobe figures that, without those seasonal adjustments, the jobless rate has actually been rising for the past three months, hitting 9.1 percent in January.

Seasonal adjustment is a common practice used to analyze economic data because filtering out the impact of seasonal forces usually gives a better assessment of underlying trends. But, for reasons economists are still debating, this winter's seasonal adjustments may have thrown the numbers out of whack

"We think that the improvement over the last few months dramatically overstates the underlying improvement," said Goldman Sachs economist Andrew Tilton. "You will not see that rate of improvement going forward."

Goldman Sachs expects the jobless rate to end the year at 8.2 percent, barely below January's reading of 8.3 percent. That view is shared by economists at the Federal Reserve, whose chairman, Ben Bernanke, has said central bankers don't expect further big drops in the jobless rate.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...from-stimulus/.........Not in D.C....Where my job's at..$885mil...whoa

That looks like a wave that is getting close to cresting.

I knew you'd eventually get something right!