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Kasept 02-16-2012 02:33 PM

NYRA: Hansen runs 'as is'
 
NYRA tells Dr. Hansen the horse runs as nature intended. No colored tail. No colored mane.

http://blogs.courier-journal.com/han...color-request/

He can be a horse of a different color if they remake 'The Wizard of Oz'.

OldDog 02-16-2012 02:41 PM

I, for one, am glad that's behind us.

richard 02-16-2012 03:55 PM

Hard to say. How many people have dyed their hair or wear wigs, etc.? It does seem odd but it might have added some flair.

Coach Pants 02-16-2012 04:02 PM

Maybe fruitcake can invite Ric Flair instead?

3kings 02-16-2012 04:15 PM

Could the owner Dr. Hanson be anymore of a media whore? First the look at me Eclipse speech, now this. I hate to wish evil on the horse because of the owner but I hope he never wins another race.

Riot 02-16-2012 04:38 PM

Well, they could not wash the urine stains out, and run him as a yellow pinto. Or the groom could leave the Quic Silver or bluing on too long, and the horse could run as pale sky blue, or even green :D

dino 02-16-2012 06:34 PM

Stevie honoring Gary Carter

my miss storm cat 02-16-2012 07:07 PM

Glad that nonsense is over...

my miss storm cat 02-16-2012 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rare Bog (Post 839217)
Oh.... I thought he was honoring La XXX on Rue St. Denis

Oh my God I'm dying... :D :tro:

my miss storm cat 02-17-2012 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rare Bog (Post 839239)
Why? You used to work there?

Monsieur Bog...

It's like a papal visit when you grace us with your presence. Like... Santa Clause! Instead of gifts you bring us tiny little gems so no... whilst I didn't used to work there I can a) give you a free show anyway, b) dye your hair in the color you had hoped for for Hansen to have or c) present you with the plethora of fine yet imaginary gifts behind door number three.

Yours faithfully,

mmsc

Merlinsky 02-17-2012 08:06 PM

http://www.drf.com/news/hovdey-color...s-common-sense

I'd respectfully disagree, Jay. I consider the decision to be very much an indication of sense.

OldDog 02-20-2012 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 839395)
http://www.drf.com/news/hovdey-color...s-common-sense

I'd respectfully disagree, Jay. I consider the decision to be very much an indication of sense.

I must say that while initially I agreed with NYRA's decree, Hovdey's piece gave me pause (not that NYRA cares one iota what I think). The "suggest exploitation" quote, I think, is a winner. Anyway, it's done. We can all rest assured that there's no exploitin' goin' on.

skyfire 02-20-2012 03:10 PM

Jay Hovdey sees big picture
 
At first I thought it was ridiculous, but now I agree with Jay Hovdey--- It would have been lighthearted publicity, and face booked and tweeted all over the place.

Cannon Shell 02-20-2012 05:39 PM

The publicity would be a farce and meaningless. If a Derby prep race with the defending eclipse award winning 2 year old in it needs a colored freaking mane and tail for publicity then we should probably just close up shop right now. Anyone interested in a horse because it has a colored tail is too stupid to become a worthwhile follower (i.e. betting customer) anyway.

TheSpyder 02-20-2012 05:44 PM

So are saying is you have never dyed your hair?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 840056)
The publicity would be a farce and meaningless. If a Derby prep race with the defending eclipse award winning 2 year old in it needs a colored freaking mane and tail for publicity then we should probably just close up shop right now. Anyone interested in a horse because it has a colored tail is too stupid to become a worthwhile follower (i.e. betting customer) anyway.


Cannon Shell 02-20-2012 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSpyder (Post 840059)
So are saying is you have never dyed your hair?

Why do you think it is gone?

TheSpyder 02-20-2012 05:47 PM

Toushe.....








as opposed to Toupee!

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-20-2012 05:50 PM

he was rocking the guy fieri look in the 80s..

Merlinsky 02-20-2012 06:00 PM

We'll have to agree to disagree. It feels exploitative to me to dye an animal's fur for my own amusement. You can see why they do it on tv or movies to match markings when the rest of the horse looks the part. The point is you're not supposed to know it's there, and they'd find an exact horse to use sans makeup if it were available. Regarding it being lighthearted and a media opportunity, I don't think all press is good press. Tons of things get disseminated on Twitter and Facebook that aren't good things. That's not my only barometer for successful PR.

It's also really only workable with certain color horses. If only those owners get to "exploit" their horses, well it's not really fair to the others either. I thought Jay's reference to carousel horses was silly. Those aren't live animals, obviously. It's kinda not the same thing. We make red teddy bears for Valentine's Day. Nobody goes out and dyes a real life bear red.

What are the aspects of what NYRA does that qualify as exploitation? The post parade? The winner's circle? I'm not quite clear on what they're doing that would induce an accusation of hypocrisy. If the thinking is we're exploitative even existing as a sport, well that's kinda PETA-adjacent isn't it? Why be a fan of something exploitative? Aren't we supposed to try not to exploit them? I take issue with people running a seriously ill-prepared horse in the Derby just to get to participate in the fanfare when they're basically serving up their animal to the wolves and they know it. That's exploitative too. Hoping you hit the board in a prestigious and lucrative G1 isn't the same thing.

OldDog 02-21-2012 08:53 AM

It's possible that we really aren't far apart on this. The way that I read the "exploitation" quote of Jay's piece was that the people who feel that coloring a horse would be exploitation are the same people who feel that virtually every aspect of the sport is exploitation of the horse. At least, that most jives with my own opinion, so maybe I projected it into his piece.

my miss storm cat 04-14-2012 03:19 PM

Oh my God.

http://twitter.com/#!/cj_jennie


Jennie Rees‏@CJ_JennieReply

RT @jdemling: Tail of Blue Grass Stakes favorite Hansen has been colored blue for today's Blue Grass Stakes at Keeneland. #bluegrassstakes

34m Jennie Rees‏@CJ_Jennie

Jody Demling heard Dr Hansen telling someone 'They're not going to scratch him but they're not happy'

35m Jennie Rees‏@CJ_Jennie

Dr Hansen (TV in tow) was up in stewards office. Apparently he did it: dyed Hansen's tale blue w/o their OK. #hansen #keeneland #kyderby

richard 04-14-2012 03:44 PM

Mr Hansen should have his hair dyed blue whether he likes it or not.:zz:

lemondropkid1 04-14-2012 04:42 PM

Just saw on TVG that they have removed the dye. Apparently the stewards had already told Dr. Hansen that he couldnt dye the tail. But Dr. Hansen had other plans for today, including having bracelets dropped from a plane or helicoptor and hiring a sky writer (weather disrupted both). Could this guy be any more obnoxious?

Merlinsky 04-14-2012 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemondropkid1 (Post 852603)
Just saw on TVG that they have removed the dye. Apparently the stewards had already told Dr. Hansen that he couldnt dye the tail. But Dr. Hansen had other plans for today, including having bracelets dropped from a plane or helicoptor and hiring a sky writer (weather disrupted both). Could this guy be any more obnoxious?

I say he should dye his hair blue. Let's see that. Unless he thinks it would be undignified, of course.

Danzig 04-14-2012 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemondropkid1 (Post 852603)
Just saw on TVG that they have removed the dye. Apparently the stewards had already told Dr. Hansen that he couldnt dye the tail. But Dr. Hansen had other plans for today, including having bracelets dropped from a plane or helicoptor and hiring a sky writer (weather disrupted both). Could this guy be any more obnoxious?

probably. ky derby is up next ya know.

tiznowthegreat 04-29-2012 07:38 AM

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2...NEWS/304280075

Nice local article about Hansen - the horse and owner

Thunder Gulch 04-29-2012 07:49 AM

Yeah, he's obnoxious, same as everyone said about Repole last year to a degree. I don't have a problem with these guys with the new money in the game. If you haven't noticed, we need some guys with personality.
It reminds me of Bull Durham when Crash tells Nuke "If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press will think you're colorful." Well when you win the BC Juvenile, go crazy and do whatever you want.

pb72vett 04-29-2012 07:59 AM

winner
 
not much for me about a white horse,and he will not make top 4 in derby!!!:D

Sightseek 04-29-2012 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiznowthegreat (Post 856575)
http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2...NEWS/304280075

Nice local article about Hansen - the horse and owner

His fiance is 25 years old?? :eek:

Merlinsky 08-01-2012 01:05 PM

http://espn.go.com/horse-racing/stor...race-blue-tail

:zz: Not again. I thought he was over this. He's a racehorse, not My Little Pony.

MaTH716 08-01-2012 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 879534)
http://espn.go.com/horse-racing/stor...race-blue-tail

:zz: Not again. I thought he was over this. He's a racehorse, not My Little Pony.

I think he should dye it Zayat blue, in honor of the horse he ducked by going to WV.

Cannon Shell 08-01-2012 01:31 PM

I find it amusing that those in favor of the tail coloring actually try to make the case that it will somehow draw in new fans.

TouchOfGrey 08-01-2012 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 879570)
I find it amusing that those in favor of the tail coloring actually try to make the case that it will somehow draw in new fans.

Zenyatta!

Cannon Shell 08-01-2012 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TouchOfGrey (Post 879581)
Zenyatta!

Imagine if they had dyed her tail white? The Z dumplings would have been hurling themslves from the grandstand roof as that would have been the absolute peak of their lifetimes and it would have been pointless to carry on.

Merlinsky 08-01-2012 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 879591)
Imagine if they had dyed her tail white? The Z dumplings would have been hurling themslves from the grandstand roof as that would have been the absolute peak of their lifetimes and it would have been pointless to carry on.

Is it too late to bring her out of retirement, dye her tail white for this purpose, then scratch her at the gate?

Dunbar 08-01-2012 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 879534)
http://espn.go.com/horse-racing/stor...race-blue-tail

:zz: Not again. I thought he was over this. He's a racehorse, not My Little Pony.

If he races the horse as a 4-yr-old and 5-yr-old, as he says he intends, he can color the tail with rainbow glitter for all I care. I'd rather see silly owners having fun and keeping their horses in the game than dignified owners who can't wait to retire good horses.

--Dunbar

Merlinsky 08-01-2012 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunbar (Post 879757)
If he races the horse as a 4-yr-old and 5-yr-old, as he says he intends, he can color the tail with rainbow glitter for all I care. I'd rather see silly owners having fun and keeping their horses in the game than dignified owners who can't wait to retire good horses.

--Dunbar

First, he hasn't done it yet. Let's assume nothing. All it takes is one "injury." He probably knows 3yo champ and HOY are out of reach so maybe his chance at a trophy will have to come next year. Then there's the fact that newer stallions are up against it going in so it's hardly the same risk it would've been a few years ago, esp. with his sire Tapit going strong. Why would someone go to Hansen over Tapit? It makes more sense to keep running him right now unless he's willing to chuck him to Japan. Plenty of "silly owners" retire young too. Silly doesn't automatically equal 'just crazy enough to run them as an older horse.'

Since when do we have to tolerate ridiculous people in exchange for them keeping their horse in the game? One person's "colorful personality" is another person's "tiresome." How about comport yourself with dignity? The Mosses seem to've done just fine getting fans for horse racing. They're not without crazy Zenyatta related pageantry, but they come across better (we'll ignore the last year Z raced, they annoyed me there but mainly for the campaign itself). He has yet to dye his own hair bright blue. That would get attention. Why would he though? That would just be silly.

Calzone Lord 08-01-2012 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 856584)
His fiance is 25 years old?? :eek:

He likes them old.


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