obama should lose
 

according to over half of those polled.


WASHINGTON — Entering 2012, President Barack Obama's re-election prospects are essentially a 50-50 proposition, with a majority saying the president deserves to be voted out of office despite concerns about the Republican alternatives, according to a new Associated Press-GfK poll.



For the first time, the poll found that a majority of adults, 52 percent, said Obama should be voted out of office while 43 percent said he deserves another term. The numbers mark a reversal since last May, when 53 percent said Obama should be re-elected while 43 percent said he didn't deserve four more years.

Obama's overall job approval stands at a new low: 44 percent approve while 54 percent disapprove. The president's standing among independents is worse: 38 percent approve while 59 percent disapprove. Among Democrats, the president holds steady with an approval rating of 78 percent while only 12 percent of Republicans approve of the job he's doing.



Only 26 percent said the United States is headed in the right direction while 70 percent said the country was moving in the wrong direction.

and on the healthcare law:

The poll found unpopularity for last year's health care reform bill, one of Obama's major accomplishments. About half of the respondents oppose the health care law and support for it dipped to 29 percent from 36 percent in June. Just 15 percent said the federal government should have the power to require all Americans to buy health insurance.

Even among Democrats, the health care law has tepid support. Fifty percent of Democrats supported the health care law, compared with 59 percent of Democrats last June. Only about a quarter of independents back the law.

It's intersting because while this survey and his overall ratings are down, when you poll him against Gingrich or Romney, he wins...especially against Gingrich who he beats handily. It's like...I don't want Obama to win, but..oh my god..that's the other option??

yeah, none of the candidates impress me at all as presidential material. our current crop of 'leaders' is woefully inadequate.

This was my dilemma last election too. Bob if the politics bully comes around, tell her I wasn't in here. ;)

Much to my disappointment - it will be hard for Obama to put together the same electoral perfect storm he had last time and Bob you know how much it hurts me to say that :p

http://flapsblog.com/2011/11/07/pres...-one-year-out/

you're right. a lot of people bought his propaganda hook, line and sinker. of course not everyone now believes he still can pull off change. some still have the hope part.
it's too bad, too. it would have been nice if change had been made. but i think the changes we need won't come from the top down.

these numbers dont matter, what is going to matter is where the votes will go in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, and a couple other possible swing states for their electoral votes. Its already granted hes probably lost a few states already that uncharistically voted for the Democratic nominee as President.

Obama doesn't have a chance if he can't shore up his base. Many on the left are disenchanted with him. Not that they are going to turn around and vote Republican, but they aren't as enthusiastic about him as they were in 2008.

You will get one of the better gauges of how things are going for Obama if you see Dem House and Senate candidates in competitive districts and states avoiding him in August.

Four important states, Wisconsin, Florida, Michigan, Ohio, have extremely unpopular Republican governors who are undergoing attack and recall of themselves and their policies. Florida has the most unpopular Gov. in the country. Wis. Gov. is on the verge of undergoing a recall election. All this will help the Dems in 2012.

Obama is currently winning in South Carolina polling against Gingrich and Romney.

Rep. Gov Nikki Haley has just been found (this week) to have withheld FOIA requests that reveal she's privately deliberately blocked ACA health care implementation in her state.

There's a long way to go, but characterizing Obama as a terrible president is pretty premature and doesn't hold up well outside of conservaland (killed bin Laden, eliminated most of al Quaeda, ended war in Iraq, drawing down in Afghanistan, saved the auto industry, millions receiving benefits of health care law changes) - especially against a Republican House that has the lowest ever popularity rating. The public knows Obama inherited alot of this mess, and knows the Congress and Senate haven't done a thing to help him.

Some of this weeks other poll numbers:

NATIONAL (AP/GfK): Obama d. Romney (47-46); Obama d. Gingrich (51-42)

NATIONAL (Rasmussen): Obama d. Gingrich (49-39)

NATIONAL (Reuters/Ipsos): Obama d. Romney (48-40); Obama d. Gingrich (51-38); Obama d. Perry (50-37)

NATIONAL (YouGov/Economist): Obama d. Romney (46-43); Obama d. Gingrich (48-39); Obama d. Paul (47-40)

CALIFORNIA (PPIC): Obama d. Generic Republican (50-38)

VIRGINIA (PPP): Obama d. Romney (48-42); Obama d. Gingrich (50-43); Obama d. Paul (48-40); Obama d. Perry (51-41); Obama d. Bachmann (52-39)

OWS type activists and the Dem base are already focused on downticket races and taking back the House (and expanding Senate) in a 1964 type sweep.

the futures market is more accurate than any poll and it's basically calling the election too close to call.

http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/co...tractId=743474

He has zero shot v. Huntsman. Complete landslide and I hope that the party can see that when the time comes.

I think Huntsman would be the best challenger. He's inched into double digits in New Hampshire.

I still wish Ron Paul would do well - this is the best he's ever done, in his lifetime campaign of running for Pres.

I think this is going to be a weird election, with the top of the ticket separated from the downticket races. Obama has already tried out his stump speech in Kansas, though, and it was stunning.

btw: the futures also put the likelyhood of a republican senate after the 2012 election at 75% and a republican house at 73.9%..

That's always been very strong at Intrade, but goes completely against what seems to be unrolling in the field. However, it's very fluid, the polling in the field goes up and down weekly. And you are right that Intrade is usually very accurate.

BTW, Elizabeth Warren appears to be rolling in Mass, to return that one Sen. seat Dem.

At the state level, the GOP is terribly unpopular, but at the national level, the middle class is gone with 1 in 2 living at or above poverty. The public loves Obama personally, but his approval is low. But every single other metric - Congress, other candidates - is lower than Obama.

Very roiled.

future's predict republican nominee:

romney 60.3%
gingrich 19.4%
paul 7.7%
huntsman 6.2%
perry 4.0%
bachman 1.4%
santorum 0.8%

What's the Senate? (says 90% above ... )

Maddow reported yesterday that someone is paying to phone poll Jeb Bush against Romney and Gingrich in New Hampshire .... might want to take a Jeb Bush longshot :D

Yeah, but what sane person would ever vote for another Bush?...oops, forgot about Faux viewers...:D

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/cat...daily-ratings/


FNC :tro:

Yeah, that's what i'm talkin bout....those koolaide drinkers....:tro:

Hold on now....I thought OWS was non-partisan????

Based on your comment they are not only not non-partisan but arent particularly lucid either.

it's 75%. there's a variety of contracts listed and the one for senate republicans 51 or more was selling at 90% but there was no volume. the higher volume contract for any republican majority was at 75%.

cook report has 8 democratic seats rated a toss up while only 2 republican seats (including brown's) fall in that category. all the other seats are rated "lean to" through "solidly" for the incumbent party.

The election for President is going to be won or lost on who runs the more effective attack ads. Obama cant run on his record because it is not only dismal he has pissed off the far lefties which made getting him elected a huge priority in 2008 because they mistakenly thought he was one of them (probably wont see that swell of grassroots support). The GOP nominee is going to face the fact that they probably dont have much of a record and will need to stay right to keep the religious nuts happy (especially Romney who will be looked upon warily by the South) in case plain hatred for Obama is not enough to make them actually get out and vote.

I predict that we see new lows in ad's on both sides as both Obama and the GOP nominee wont do anything but appeal to the base and try to trick indy's, not by swaying them FOR them but against the other guy.

Obama is lucky that all the sane and reasonable GOP potentials are keeping a low profile and not running because he really has very little going for him at this point. The fact that he is even with the bunch of misfits says all you need to know about what people think of his Presidency.

I do like the lower volume commercial thing though

Sigh ....

Yes. OWS type activists are focused on downticket races, getting the best candidate that meets Occupy values in. Not on getting Obama re-elected. Yes, Occupy is non-partisan, looking closely at individual candidates. There are plenty of Dems that will be primaried, or not supported, due to their views. Some Dems (like Warren) will be strongly supported. No Republicans will be. Plenty of support for Ron Paul in Occupy.

Yes. The Dem base are already focused on downticket races and taking back the House (and expanding Senate) in a 1964 type Democratic sweep.

Thanks. If things continue to happen like the Scott Walker recall, Kasich continues to fall, Michigan continues to overturn municiple elections and appoint Governor-handpicked Czars to run towns, Scott in Florida continues disaster, the Arizona Republican party, and Nikki Haley is found to be obstructing Obamacares law, things will be very fluid.

At this early stage, all the Dems have to do is shut up and stay out of the limelight. The GOP is self-destructing in front of our eyes.

uh what?

i think the fact that obama will be running a seriously negative campaign is a given. it'll be a far cry from the high tone of the 2008 "hope and change" campaign. they'll be all out to paint romney as an out of touch plutocrat who shipped jobs overseas. obama won't get re-elected if he doesn't make the choice between him and something worse.

they're already running ad's in swing states trying to define romney. i'm just glad i live where the election result is a given. neither campaign will waste a whole lot of ad $ is california. the new volume rules don't go into effect until next december and it's going to be a loud campaign.

Uh ... it's not based upon party affiliation, but on what the candidate stands for, and what their actual record is regarding lobbying money, etc.

Like this part you didn't highlight: There are plenty of Dems that will be primaried, or not supported, due to their views.

I know that for folks like you, that view the political parties like sports teams, where the opponent can never, ever, EVER be supported, no matter what, it's hard to understand voting for candidates NOT based upon political party, but upon their actions and record.

I hope that both Barbara Streisand and Alec Baldwin promise to move out of the US again this time if a Republican president gets elected and actually stick to their worthless word when it happens.

:tro:

Fox News viewers are less informed than people who don't watch any news, according to a new poll from Fairleigh Dickinson University.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1106305.html

Fox News chyrons and graphs have been a joke for ages. One thing they nearly always do, is when an elected Republican is caught in a nasty story (gay sex, etc.) they use a "D" instead of an "R" for his party affiliation.

What Fox did yesterday: can you see the ... problem?


And what Fox did reporting unemployment numbers last week. See the massive inaccuracy graph problem here?

Saw that 2012 GOP Iowa mug shot on Stewart last nite....hiliarious...
He did a number on Newt using clips of several prominent repukes ripping him...funny bit..and true

Jon Stewart viewers are better informed about politics and world issues than Fox News viewers.

And in another story, National Geographic Wild Channel has accepted Stephen Colbert's request to host the Classy Republican Debate in January. Eat your heart out, failure Donald Trump.

Saw that on Colbert show last nite...funny...

OMG, the funniest thing was night before on Jon Stewart, the Barbara Walters saying "What?!!" to Herman Cain wanting to be Defense Dept Cabinet position :p

Lol, yeah he milked that one...funny stuff....
Saw that some where else, and she actually said, WHAT!...'Not the Treasury?'...

Don't be too sure about Mass.. Brown has a very good approval rating here. People like him because he does not vote strictly along party lines. He is extremely popular among independents who make up the majority of voters here.

the lefties might be pissed, but they're still going to vote for obama...or not vote. they won't vote for the opposition. just like the right-it's not like they're going to vote for obama, no matter how unpalatable romney might be. it's the indies, the middle who will decide, just like always. obama said himself that if he didn't fix things, he'd be a one termer. of course he'll run on a four years isn't enough to fix things type campaign, which is correct. but he dug himself that hole, now he'll have to get out of it.