Jeter vs Dye for MVP
 

The NY Press has already given Jeter the MVP. How does Dye not get it?

Jeter- .346ba, 13hr, 92rbi
Dye- .321ba, 41hr, 114rbi

It does go past numbers. It goes right to the NY media bias. Arod won it last year for the same reason. Dye will put the White Sox on his back and win the division and they still will give it to their pretty boy Derek Jeter.

Both are worthy...I'd vote for Jeter for the leadership during this crazy season!

What about Johan Santana? Just because hes a pitcher doesnt mean hes not a MVP. Would the Twins be in this race w/o him? No way.

Man talk about a guy who runs his mouth about something he obviously knmows nothing about, geez.
have you even seen a major league game this year?

Allow me to give you the FULL stats

Jeter- .346 ba 13 Hr 92 Rbi 102 runs scored 29 stolen bases .423 obp
Dye- .322 ba 41 hr 112 rbi 93 runs scored 7 stolen bases .388 obp

So where do we begin to educate this poor clueless soul? First of all Jeter is outhitting him by 24 points and leading him by 35 points in on base percentage. Jeter also has 9 more runs scored as wellk as 22 more stolen bases.
While Dye does have more HR, if you really look at it Jeter is getting much more productive at bats, I say this because he hits 2nd in the lineup as opposed to cleanup or 3rd like Dye does which gives Jeter far fewer chances at Rbi's(as any educated baseball fan knows) yet he has 92 RBI's already.

Jeter has also delivered many clutch hits that won games and his fielding has been great.
Jeter's fielding percentage is .976
Dye's is .982

Thats pretty unreal considering that Dye plays right field and has FAR fewer chances to field balls as opposed to playing short and getting em hit at you all night long.

Its pretty obvious that of the two fine years that Jeter's really sticks out as being more productive and the overall better of the two both in the field and at the plate.

Tim,
Pitchers and DH's have no right ever getting that award. That award should be for every day players who play the field as well as hit. And you get the absurd statement of the day award for arguing for any pitcher before Mariano. You honestly think there is a more valuable pitcher in baseball than Mariano? Do you know any GM who would rather have Santana on his team over mariano? WOW!!

Yeah ok, sure. Dye will put them on his back. LOL!!! he better get started damn soon!!!!
Right now Dye and the boys are on the outside looking in at the playoff teams and the Yanks are cruising on a ten game lead.

Ditto, and do any of you honestly feel hes more valuable than Mariano? Blah. I dont any manager alive who would rather have santana over mariano.

Where is slugging percentage and OPS? Or did you conveniently forget those? What a surprise you forgot those.

Dye- OPS 1.025 Jeter OPS .915
Dye-Slugging .637 Jeter Slugging .492

Dye is in the best division in baseball. He has 28 more hr's and he does not have a $200 million dollar payroll surrounding him.

Are you going to get down on your knees for Oracle now or is your mouth already full? :eek:

THAT IS FEAR I SENSE IN YOUR VOICE. He was 2-5 today with 2rbis in their 9-0 win over anaheim. With Minnesota now done due to the big injury today, Chicago will walk to the world series. Just like last year.

Can you repeat that? I think you are mumbling or there must be something in your mouth.

Last I checked the more money you have the better players you can buy. See Abrieu. No other team could do that. It doesn't matter, the Yankees will not beat Chicago. I wish they did because El Duque would win game 7 striking out Arod with the bases loaded in the bottom of the ninth, down one run. :eek:

I will gladly take your money iwhen the Yankees and White Sox play in the first round.

I am right more than wrong. Too bad you missed out on Nobiz like Shobiz. Some of us didn't. Your lover Oracle could have filled you in considering Frank Martin told him about the horse. He was smart though and kept it to himself.

Those 3-5 shots being? I don't ever bet less than even money, that included Showing Up at Arlington.

I guess you missed my $24 horse I gave out in the last at belmont on Saturday or the $11 Brilliant win at Delaware.

Absolutely. Name the amount. My brother knows horses, not baseball. That is why he is a Phillies fan.

3-5 shots that lose everyday. Please show me them? I have given out more winners than losers, one paid $24 and the other $11 the other day. Atleast I give out picks and can take losing. Where are your brilliant picks? Yes, I gave out Brilliant for $11 the other day too.

This guy is a text book loser.
hes obviously a nothing and a nobody, people who have to explain how "their brother knows this and that" are always losers themselves.
Guys such a loser that he admitted here his brother won't let him use his name.
At least his brother has enough sense to do that.

I wonder what his brother does when guys take him by the throat and start shaking him around?
My guess is nothing but laugh.

He wanted me to ask you if you were related to Ray Paulick. He is some guy his is friends with in Kentucky. Paulick works for the bloodhorse.

No I am not.
And I really hope he reads some of the filth you write and gives you a slap. I can't imagine anyone who has any credibility reading what his ignorant little brother writes and not wanting to strangle him.
P.S. I don't care who your brother is, and neither does anyone else.

Mike-

The Twins are 26-5 in the 31 games Johan Santana has pitched in. How many of those 31 games would the Twins have won if say they had an average pitcher in there like Jared Wright? While Jeter is an excellent player, he doesnt have as much to do with the Yankees winning as Santana does when the Twins win. And Jermaine Dye doesnt just have "more HRs than Jeter", he has almost 30 more. And 22 more RBI. Two stats much more important in today's game than batting average.

All very awesome players, none of them bad choices to win the MVP. Even Long Duck Dong has a shot at the MVP this year.

Tim thats just crazy. And Rbi's in the 2nd slot? 92? Go find me someone this year hitting in the 2nd slot with 92 Rbi's. I havent looked, I swear Tim, but thats an awful high number for a guy batting 2nd.
Whats the Yanks record in games that Rivera appeared in Tim? Bet its better than santana's!!!! Lots better.
And if home runs mean so much , why will Big papi and manny be home on the couch soon instead of in the playoffs?

Because the Red Sox are quitting slobs. Thats why!

Mariano only usually pitches in games with the Yankees leading or tied at worst. He doesnt do as much as Santana does in the games he pitches. That is not even arguable.

Who cares about MVP's anyways? The only thing that matters is winning the World Series.

Well if hr's mattered so much then Giambi would be the MVP of the Yankees and it just aint so.
The all around game of a player is the key.
And pitchers only pitch 30-40 times. That aint enough to get an award vs guys who play every day.
Dh's don't have to play the field and have no business winning it either.

I disagree but thats just my right as an American tax payer! And I hope your not trying to compare Giambi with Dye as hitters. Dye is batting a very nice .321. Not sure what Giambi is batting but I will take a gander its at least 70 points below Dye's average. Dye is the complete package, an excellent fielder to boot. I wont go into my opinion of Giambi. You all know it and frankly its as tired as dscussing polycrap.