PVal, PVal wherefore art thou, PVal?
 

This is not good...

http://www.drf.com/news/hollywood-pa...nzuela-no-show

Maybe he and Tyler decided to go to meetings all day?:zz:

I wonder if anyone has checked the drive thru at Jack in the Box.

Too bad.... Hard not to think the worst..but.....


Hope he's o.k and it's not what most all of us are thinking.

I hope to heck he's ok. It seems that this year has been particularly unkind to the jockey colony. I sure hope we don't have another bad story in the works. I pray that he's ok. :(

What, stuck in traffic on the 405?

That's some traffic jam if that's the case :rolleyes:

Pretty much anybody in this great country that has earned millions in his career, can find a phone and notify his place of employment or agent if, "he's o.k. and it's not what most of us are thinking."
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He knew how tenuous his licensing is, he would have found a way to notify somebody....anybody, if he was stuck in traffic, sick, flat tire, sleepy, doesn't feel like riding horses, whatever.

Agree... and was just saying.. "I hope it's not the case"... knowing it most likely is.

99.9% he's using again.

I don't have a problem with his drug use. You're just keeping talented riders off horses and we're left with the good boys like Jon Court and Mike Luzzi.

I'd rather have PVal on a 10 day bender.

more pval drama. what a surprise.

Probably living in a van, down by the river.

Rick Hammerle on ATR: "Agent Tom Knust has heard from PVal. Not riding Friday. Expects to ride Saturday. Will do what has to w/ stewards."

Nice to know that he's ok. Hopefully he doesn't need today off so he can get that full body haircut again.

Very presumptuous for a man on quadruple secret probation that was just a no show for a card while the people closest to him had no idea where he was.

seriously, can it be that bad?

he said he was going down to SD to visit his gf, prob. just wanted a few more "quality" days time with gf (and in Pvals case the phrase gf means drugs)

-bt-

Anymore news?

only news is he is set to return on Nov 26th and will be drug tested. Oh Pval lets really hope its an issue with your girlfriend

It doesn't matter what the issue is with his girlfriend, he has no legitimate excuse because he didn't pick up the phone.

Make a damn phone call BEFORE you are a no show. That's how the rest of the world works.

Too much regulation. So what if he didn't make a phone call? S.hit happens. Let me ask this...are these people in power employing this guy and paying his taxes? If not, unless he kills another horse or jockey why should anyone care if he's on drugs?

I'll tell you why...because there's too many people on earth. The only jobs that can keep the masses employed are jobs where you're controlling, taxing, ruining the lives of others. We don't make anything these days...instead we create jobs that do nothing but keep a moron fed and the people they deal with absolutely miserable and domesticated.

Mind your own god-damned business. You can ride horses and be coked up. Not everyone responds the same to drugs. F.uck Nancy Reagan. If owners, trainers or whoever wants to hire this guy then it's their choice.

i agree actually. i don't get why employers have the 'right' to test anyone. it's not exactly constitutional.

amen.

His employers arent testing him, the state which grants his professional license is. In his case he has a conditional license so he is held to a different standard.

I have a hard time believing that you are going to get much support for letting someone who is impared ride a horse going 40 mph. This is different than testing a stockboy at Wal-Mart for weed.

what he does in his leisure time is no one's business. i guess that's my biggest beef right there. you'd have to think it would be common sense not to get on a horse while one is impaired; but perhaps like they say, common sense isn't so common.
i've read where jockeys were riding who couldn't even stand because of dehydration. but they could pilot a half ton of horse?

It's obvious that people can post while impaired....

chilli dippin trippin... bro bro

I know it goes against what young people believe these days but there are rules in life. If you want to be a jockey you need to take drug tests. If you don't want to take drug test then do something else. Seems simple to me.

I wasn't impaired. I was actually posting from church. Your mother was wearing an adorable hat.

so, you're suggesting our bill of rights doesn't apply if a state or local, or private entity tries to trample on our rights? free speech? freedom from illegal search and seizure, etc, etc? i don't think that's quite correct.

P Val is like 50 now right? This isn't a young person vs not so young person debate. Seems like at 50 P Val hasn't figured out there are rules in life.

I understand Coach's point about too much regulation and I agree with him that some people react to drugs differently. I don't think all jockeys should be tested, however considering the dozens of chances the guy has had, I think testing him is necessary and the fact he couldn't be bothered to pick up the phone when he KNOWS he should have means he probably doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt.

Most people can't just fall off the face of the earth one day and not follow through with occupational obligations. They would be fired, and rightfully so.

Disappears on the 17th
Says he will be back on the 26th. Needs some time off with fiance
Gets high from the 16th to the 23rd.
Has a big turkey dinner tomorrow and takes a drug flush.
Shaves himself head to toe Saturday morning and arrives at the track for his test if he doesn't get delayed in holiday traffic

i'm not sure exactly what you're saying at this point....

really, this soap opera shouldn't have continued this long. it's what causes the drama to continue, they keep giving more chances-just like dutrow, biancone...

If you work for a private employer and you are not a member of a union or under a contract, you are considered an "at-will" employee and can be fired for any reason the employer chooses that is not specifically prohibited by law. Refusal to submit to drug testing does not fall under things prohibited by law.

And if you don't like it? Find another job.

As someone else mentioned, the Bill of Rights does not apply to private sector employment.

It's not necessarily "private sector" when the state is involved. But taaaanks for trying.

The she made for one lively corpse. :eek:

At least she has an excuse. She's been declared dead. Others here are just under suspicion.

I'd love to see what would have happened if I was told to take a drug test in my Air Force days and told my Commander I'd be in next week after I spend some time with the fiance. This guy is nothing but a loser drug addict that needs to disappear from horse racing. I'm pretty sure the sport will go on just fine without him.

The sports not really fine with him. I guess it will go on the same without him.