College Basketball wagering thread 2011-12
 

About time to start getting some action on the best gambling sport out there. Some games I like tomorrow.

Season 0-0 +-0 Zenyattas

VCU pk vs Seton Hall 3 Zenyattas
Arizona pk @ St Johns 1 Z
USC +6 @ SDSU 2 Z's

Good Luck Phil.

I do have to admit that it took me a second to realize what Zenyattas were, especially when I saw that you bet games on the east coast.

Have a good season.

How can anyone bet against a team with a player Named Gods Gift ?

LOL!

Thanks, VCU, for sucking.

2-1 -.3 Zenyattas on day 1.

One game I really like tomorrow.

Akron +1 vs Duquesne 4 Z's

Game was +3 at 4pm ny time good luck!

Cincy lost at home to Presbyterian?

Yeah they moved the line after Akron lost an 8 point lead late last night to Valpo... obviously I liked it more there. Rough start to the season. Not a lot of consistency out of these teams so far.

Presbyterian is an interesting team. With last year being their first in Division I, their coach intentionally redshirted a lot of guys to maximize their eligibility once the school became eligible for postseason. Cincinnati still should have handled them, but there will be bigger upsets than that this season.

How good can guys who are willing to redshirt at Presbyterian be? I guess good enough to beat Cincy but they were coming off of a loss to W Carolina and Cincy was up 49-34 with 8 mins to go.

Betting College ball is cool and Ill play for a month or 2 after the Super Bowl. UNC is almost unbeatable this year. Good Luck to anyone and everyone else. I dont ever remember seeing a team this talented.

Are you 12?

Chuck they are loaded. THey have it all. I think they put a solid run in at going undefeated.

They may have a nice team for the 2011 version of NCAA hoops but you are talking about the same school who once had a team with Sam Perkins, James Worthy and Micheal Jordan on the court at the same time. When college basketball was great (before the one and done rule) there were some really great teams of guys who played together for 2 or 3 years.

Roy Williams is good for at least 2 losses

I was not alive when the team you speak of played.

I think they have an insane amount of talent on 1 team. 3 top 8 picks. A hard nosed rock solid college player in Zeller and the PG who is the goods.

Barnes is pretty good though has some Marvin Williams in him. I dont think the other players are much more than marginal NBA players.

Barnes is Ray Allen. Zeller is a great college player. He is like Psycho T, but he has a lot more talent around him so the numbers are not great. Hes more then capable on the block. Hensen is a shut down defender if I have ever seen 1. That guy is long and athletic. The PG is a solid college player. Then theres someone else Im forgetting but hes like 4th on the NBA draft big board. Hes a PF.

Uh no he isnt Ray Allen. He is Danny Granger. Not that Granger isnt a pretty good NBA player but Ray Allen is a all time great shooter. Barnes shot 34% from the college 3 pt line.

Zeller is a terrible defender.
Hensen has no offensive game and needs a dose of steroids.
McAdoo has potential but I dont think he will leave after this year.

I disagree with almost everything you have said. When I saw tape of Barnes even in high school I thought Ray Allen smooth. He just has it. Even if its more of Danny Granger, thats fine 2. Especially in college ball now. Zeller can be terrible on this team, its a team. He scores and I have witnessed him do big things on the block. He rebounds OK and never stops. And Hensen is a beast on D. They compliment each other well, and I think there is a spot for both of them in the NBA. High motor guys are great. Hensen will be more then that though. Zeller would be like a dream come true late 1st round early 2nd round for a team like Boston or Miami. Actually any team with superstars who would not ask 2 much from him. I will admit I dont know much about Mcadoo, but I saw him as 4th overall ahead of Sullinger from Ohio St... He must be at least solid if he is being hyped as a top 5 NBA pick.

Kentucky would beat North Carolina easily.

Dude stop. UNC this year is an all time kinda team.
Do you really think Kentucky is better?

Your disagreement is about the best validation one can have.

Real nice Chuck, after the shout out I just gave you in esoteric.

All time what? They have a star player, a couple of decent big guys, a nice PG who cant shoot and McAdoo isnt even as good as his Dad.

Russell Westbrook

You stop. You have no idea what you're talking about. Kentucky and Ohio State are both better.

Unlike in horse racing we will find out in the next few months. I cant wait.

Dare I weigh in? Ok why not.

Carolina, on paper, is very very good and deserving of the early season #1, but far from unbeatable. I have concerns about their rebounding and outside shooting and wish they were more physical underneth. They will certainly benefit from everyone coming back this year, especially Barnes who is legit. Zeller and Henson are very solid but I was hoping to see more bulk on both, especially Henson. The freshman, Mcadoo and Harriston will need to contribute. Both have looked pretty good these first few games. Marshall is a fantastic college point guard and the main reason for Carolina's turnaround last year. To me, he is the key to their success. The Carolina championship teams all had top notch point guards leading the way so Marshall must continue to play at a high level.

Next week, Carolina has Wisconsin at home and their annual battle with Kentucky next weekend in Lexington Even though its still early in the season, these two games should give us a very good idea how good/great this team really is. I am hoping the Tarheels can exact some revenge for last year's tournament loss to the Wildcats but winning at Rupp is never easy.

I expect Carolina to lose two, maybe three conference games. That's OK as long as they are rolling come tournament time.

Chuck mentioned the Jordan, Worthy, Perkins team. Obviously a great team who won a national championship. But for my money, the most talented Carolina team I ever remember was a few years later in the mid 80s. The 85-86 team was stacked. Kenny Smith at the point. Forwards Joe Wolf (6 11), Dave Popson (6 10), centers Brad Daugherty (7ft), Warren Martin (7ft), freshmen McDonalds all-americans Jeff Lebo, Kevin Madden and Steve Bucknall. On paper, this team should have on a championship but for some reason, finished the season poorly and got knocked out in the sweet sixteen.

I'm taking Jordan, Worthy, Perkins and me and you and beating the 85-86 team.

Of course Jordan wasnt the Jordan we think of even though he hit the game winning shot. Like the Houston team that lost in 85, if they had the Hakeen of 3 years later they would have won back to back titles instead of back to back runner up finishes.

It's amazing how good the ACC was during that time. The 86 UNC team wasn't even the best team in the ACC that year. Both Duke and GT were better. Duke had Dawkins, Amaker, Alarie, Ferry, King, Bilas, etc. GT had Mark Price, John Salley, Hammonds, and Duane Ferrell, NC State had Del Negro, Nate McMillan, Chucky Brown, and Charles Shackleford. Hell, Maryland had Len Bias and Tony Massenburg and could only finish 6th.

We would definitely put those three over the top ;):D

Actually even 25+ years removed, I'd sign up for that pick up game in a heartbeat.

Agreed. There were some great games during that time. Carolina started 15-0 that year, but finished 13-6 over their last 19 games and actually lost to Maryland in the ACC tourney before losing to Louisville in the sweet sixteen.

Kansas -8 52.50/50
Kansas/UCLA o139 52.50/50

I'm setting the over/under on you pulling a hammy at 5:00 minutes.

Kentucky looked kind of shaky against ODU. And this isn't a great ODU team by any means- certainly not anywhere close to last year, for instance. I still think they're the best team in the country but the margin isn't as wide as I initially thought.

I'll take the under. Likely to happen while stretching pre-game. :eek::D

Phil since Im pretty sure you won just say because they are better, or Ohio St and Kentucky will beat UNC or you stop.... Can you explain how Kentucky is better then UNC? I dont even think its close. I have watched Kentucky play, I dont see it.

I never learn my lesson with over/unders in college hoops. Just don't have the feel for them that I do in other sports, but still insist on betting them.

-2.50

Kentucky?

Jones is an idiot. It will be a miracle if Conapari can keep him in line for 4 more months.