Federal judge overturns Florida law requiring drug testing welfare recipients
 

Good deal. The Fourth Amendment is alive, even though RGA and ALEC have tried to kill it. Enough of the GOP meme of "welfare queens". It's been baloney since Ronald Reagan invented it out of thin air to win an election. Let alone requiring people applying for welfare to pay for their own drug tests.

Good deal for drug cartels and assorted government officials on the take. Hooray!!

Bad news for Florida Governor Rick Scott, R-Record Medicare Fraud, who got this passed, and whose chain of Florida private medical clinics (now "owned" by his wife since he ran for Governor) specialize in things like drug testing.

Federal judge sure threw a wrench into that money-making scheme.

thats to bad..so as the johnsons sit on the new couch and ride around in a 2010 explorer..they wont be bothered to quit smoking weed and chillin on the state..ps they have 6 kids and noone has had a job sence 1992..fire up da blunt..stake on the state knucka..:tro::tro:

(Newser) – Florida’s controversial new program to drug test welfare recipients isn’t exactly catching droves of addicts.

So far only 2% of those tests have come up positive, the Tampa Tribune reports, with 96% testing clean and 2% declining to complete the application process.

That rate of failure may still be enough to save Florida a tiny bit of money, but it undermines Gov. Rick Scott's argument that welfare recipients are more likely to use illegal drugs.

Applicants must pay for their own drug tests, but Florida will have to reimburse everyone who tested drug-free. At least 1,000 applicants have taken the test since the program started July 1; at least 1,500 are expected to take it each month.

At this rate, that will amount to $28,800 to $43,200 in reimbursements a month.

http://www.newser.com/story/127011/o...rug-tests.html

Why should welfare recipients be reimbursed? I am sick of having to pay my own way and those god-damned motherf.uckers do NOTHING to survive. Nothing. You're telling me there are that many people in this country who are unable to work?

They're depressed you say? Well here's a gun and two bullets in case you miss. We'll reimburse your family the cost of the second bullet if you miss on the first shot.

This country is beyond gone.

So if the original plan had been followed 1,629 would have been cut off for failing or not testing (almost 1 in 5 or 18%). Seems to me the plan would have worked.

BTW What’s the difference between testing welfare recipients and DUI roadblocks? Driving is a privilege and receiving welfare is not?

.....and to think, they be wantin peeps to pull up their pants when they go up in a bizness. Pullin up da pants is no prolem, just keep sendin tha free money, ya herrrrd!!!

Rick Perry and Donald Trump have brought back birtherism, for all those looking for someone to hate on.

So in the real world seven out of ten welfare recipients have been on the public dole for more than 2 years and half over 5 years. I wonder how many are illegals like auntie Obama.

However some good news

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According to the source cited by Riot there are more whites on welfare than black by 1%(38% v. 37%.) However when you consider 2010 census data that shows African Americans make up 12% of population while whites 65% it starts to make that stat a bit clearer.

Considering the differences in size of population by race, would show an African American is five times as likely to be on welfare compared to a white.

I was just about to refer to this fact, but why present this information when it is minimized by such a grand presentation of Fact vs. Myth.

It's sad watching people jump through hoops trying to justify their prejudices and hatred of welfare recipients.

Hey, the John Birch Society is always looking for a few more good haters: you gotta hate gay active-duty soldiers, hate uninsured who die from accidents, cheer governors that kill people.

Yay! It's morning in America! Your candidate appears to be Rick Perry. Unless you hate Muslims more than brown people, then it's Herman Cain.

It's sad that you feel numbers are now racist and full of hatred.

Yea cause he's white. :zz: That hatred comes thru loud and clear again.

It's sad you are posting numbers from 15 years ago. 1996 Congressional hearing testimony? Really? Maybe post something from the past 2-3 years? You know, after the financial crash, and the recession, that changed how many hundreds of thousands of people are on welfare?

What are you doing, if not trying to justify your dislike of those awful "welfare recipients"? You're desperate to try and find numbers that fulfill your bitter prejudices against "welfare recipients". Because otherwise, why would the numbers matter to you?

That doesn't even make any sense.

Herman Cain is the one who already made some pretty nasty public statements about Muslims. If you don't like Muslims, looks like he's your guy. Herb doesn't like them, either.

I didn't say racist, Dell. I said "prejudiced" and "hatred". You know, two words that have completely different meanings than "racist"?

My dislike for welfare has nothing to do with race and everything to do with self-reliance and fairness especially when one has been on longer than five years. In fact I'll go so far and say I dislike white welfare recipients more than black just because they have no prejudice/racism excuse, real or not, to get themselves out.

Just to be clear again I came up with the fact African Americans are five times as likely to be on welfare by using YOUR source that gave me the 38% v. 37% and then 2010 census numbers for population breakdown according to race.

As usual, the war of statistics...you either are a person who feels people come first (before political ideology, sound bites from one side or the other, and greed) or you don't. The "what's mine is mine and if I think you might take even a minute piece of that causes me to hate you" philosophy may be satisfying in the short run, but what goes around comes around and in these uncertain days, to quote Dylan, "the first one now will later be last". Look down upon the disadvantaged, the poor and the needy but don't forget to occasionally look in the mirror..."there but for the grace of God..."

:zz: I don't see that in the source I gave. Cut and paste the applicable paragraph, and web link, please.

The myth of the "welfare queen" ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_queen

Rick Scott, president of a medical services company who had to pay 1.7 billion in fraud and damages for Medicare fraud, was somehow then elected Governor of Florida, a state filled with Medicare recipients.

Go figure that one, huh?

One of the first things Scott does, is accuse "welfare queens" of being drug addicts (even though we're in a recession and we have the highest unemployment since the depression), and he orders that anyone applying for assistance has to take and pay for their own drug test. Oh - by the way, his company of Florida clinics specializes in doing drug tests (he put that company in his wife's name when he was elected Governor).

The result? Less than 2% of assistance seekers even turn up positive for drugs, Florida is now out multiple thousands per month to pay for the unneeded drug tests (out of a decreased state budget to start with), Gov. Rick Scott's drug testing clinics are making thousands a month - until a Federal Judge puts a kabosh on the whole damn scam by pointing out there is no evidence "welfare recipients are drug abusers".

And people wonder why Occupy Wall Street exists.

What does YOUR source say about Obama Care for the muff?

As long as that muff ain't making no money, I say, give that muff a check!!!!! Free money for all lazy muffs. (We all know, however, that muffs are gettin paid)

snarf!!



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Here ya go

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-welfareblack.htm

Thanks. As pointed out, it's true that the majority of welfare recipients are not black. Are they?

Now, your math ... I suggest you use the same years census data. Not reaching for different data ;)

I took your suggestion and went back and did the numbers using both the 1990 and 2000 census stats (http://www.census.gov/prod/3/98pubs/p23-194.pdf page 14) and back then an African American was six times as likely as a white person, to be on welfare. So we've come a long way. :zz:

And true the majority of welfare recipients are white if that makes you feel better.

even with http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/hiring/affirmativeact.htm ..where race is slanted tward hire of those with color..i am not allowed to act like they havent been given a huge hand up..yet the welfare numbers soar..as far as my take on the johnsons..ive seen it daily..first hand

Some people have a Mercedes in the driveway and some have one in the family portrait. I don’t want to be forced to subsidize either.

You want to have a Mercedes? Then you pay for it.

Give me a break! I've worked all my life with low income families and this hate-induced propaganda about expensive cars is a bunch of bull. Are there folks who cheat the system? Of course, on Wall Street as well as on welfare but that's just an excuse to put the blame on the poor. I also don't give a rat's behind regarding what color folks on welfare are...folks are folks! One of these days, people are gonna wake up and discover that societies don't crumble from the bottom, they decay starting at the top.

My statement regarding the Mercedes in the driveway was referring to idiots who took out a loan on their home to buy it and are now crying poor and wanting a hand out. Or execs at AIG and GM who were bailed out on the backs of the taxpayer.

Mercedes in the family portrait? Well yea that referred to no/low income folks you were talking about.

I'm all for people succeeding, on their own. It's what makes this country great. Our poor are rich compared to the rest of the world. I'm simply trying to stop the march towards socialism.

Saying "our" poor are rich compared to the rest of the world is meaningless to those who are poor. If you are elderly and have to decide whether to buy food or needed medicine, unemployed and unable to pay bills, living in the middle of the war zones which are our inner cities etc. it's small comfort to be told there are others worse off than you. Rather than worry about socialism, you might spend more time thinking about being led to the brink of our society's collapse by those who care only about greed. How much is enough?

What is important is that we keep them from being poor. We learned recently that poor people are the cause of rape and murder. Thanks Uncle Joe!

There is one group of people in this Country who have been living high on the hog off of taxpayer money, and are directly responsible for almost every mess affecting this Country, that should be drug tested now. Congress. And every member of every Federal Agency in the Executive Branch.