Derby Trail Forums

Derby Trail Forums (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/index.php)
-   The Paddock (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2)
-   -   TDN: Ashford lands Uncle Mo (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43994)

Kasept 10-06-2011 11:44 AM

TDN: Ashford lands Uncle Mo
 
Uncle Mo to Ashford Upon Retirement

A partnership deal has been agreed between Mike Repole of Repole Stable and Coolmore's Ashford Stud, whereby 2010 unbeaten champion juvenile Uncle Mo (Indian Charlie) will stand at Ashford following his retirement from racing.

“We'll see what happens in the Classic and then Todd and I will sit down with the Coolmore team and we'll decide where to go from there,” said Repole keeping open the possibility that Uncle Mo may continue to race in 2012.

A winter favorite for the Kentucky Derby, Uncle Mo missed the entire Triple Crown due to a case of cholangiohepatitis--a severe inflammation of the bile passages and adjacent liver. Returning after a near five-month layoff, the colt was just nosed out by Caleb's Posse in the GI King's Bishop S. but was back to his best when winning the GII Kelso H. at Belmont, Saturday.

“Todd Pletcher said he's never had a horse as good as Uncle Mo, so that's good enough for me,” commented Ashford Stud manager Dermot Ryan. “He's also a magnificent-looking horse by a very good sire, so we're really looking forward to having him when the time comes for him to retire,” added Ryan.

GPK 10-06-2011 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 809576)
Uncle Mo to Ashford Upon Retirement

Updated: 12:07 PM ET (First posted: 11:34 AM ET)

A partnership deal has been agreed between Mike Repole of Repole Stable and Coolmore's Ashford Stud, whereby 2010 unbeaten champion juvenile Uncle Mo (Indian Charlie) will stand at Ashford following his retirement from racing. “We'll see what happens in the Classic and then Todd and I will sit down with the Coolmore team and we'll decide where to go from there,” said Repole keeping open the possibility that Uncle Mo may continue to race in 2012. A winter favorite for the Kentucky Derby, Uncle Mo missed the entire Triple Crown due to a case of cholangiohepatitis--a severe inflammation of the bile passages and adjacent liver. Returning after a near five-month layoff, the colt was just nosed out by Caleb's Posse in the GI King's Bishop S. but was back to his best when winning the GII Kelso H. at Belmont, Saturday. “Todd Pletcher said he's never had a horse as good as Uncle Mo, so that's good enough for me,” commented Ashford Stud manager Dermot Ryan. “He's also a magnificent-looking horse by a very good sire, so we're really looking forward to having him when the time comes for him to retire,” added Ryan.

:rolleyes: Not a chance in hell

freddymo 10-06-2011 12:22 PM

You know what..... while unlikely Repole might have the ballz to race Mo at 4

GPK 10-06-2011 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 809579)
You know what..... while unlikely Repole might have the ballz to race Mo at 4

Mo wins the classic = Retire him on top, greatest horse evah, blah, blah, blah..
Mo loses the classic = Liver flare up, other physical issue, he's done enough, blah, blah, blah...

-BT- 10-06-2011 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK (Post 809580)
Mo wins the classic = Retire him on top, greatest horse evah, blah, blah, blah..
Mo loses the classic = Liver flare up, other physical issue, he's done enough, blah, blah, blah...

i don't like the guy, but he does make a point :o

-bt-

GPK 10-06-2011 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -BT- (Post 809581)
i don't like the guy, but he does make a point :o

-bt-

Nice to see you too, a$$hole:)

MaTH716 10-06-2011 12:29 PM

Stay Thirsty might have a say in all this. Technically, he can retire Mo and still have one of the top older horses running at 4.

ellpol 10-06-2011 12:35 PM

I agree
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK (Post 809577)
:rolleyes: Not a chance in hell

I agree with you 100%

TouchOfGrey 10-06-2011 12:42 PM

I remain hopefully optimistic.

Quote:

Repole is looking no further than the Breeders’ Cup, but said he is open to racing him again in 2012.

“As long as Mo continues to be Mo, he will continue to race. Every horse is race-to-race and day-to-day, but with Uncle Mo…you watch him a little closer,” said Repole, who reached a deal with Ashford over the summer before they knew if Uncle Mo would return to racing.

“He could be a stallion on Nov. 6—the day after the Breeders’ Cup—or tomorrow if he doesn’t make the Breeders’ Cup, or next year. Todd and I will make the decision, and get Coolmore’s blessing.”
Read more: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...#ixzz1a1aOFKFf

freddymo 10-06-2011 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 809584)
Stay Thirsty might have a say in all this. Technically, he can retire Mo and still have one of the top older horses running at 4.

Again I suspect it will be hard to keep him in training and agree with much of what has been said. Repole knows how hard it is to have a superstar maybe just maybe he thinks with his heart and not his wallet. Stay Thirsty might be a better stallion prospect then MO. Those Indian Charlie's all suck

Bigsmc 10-06-2011 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK (Post 809580)
blah, blah, blah...

:tro::tro:

I know it's not Balmoral, but tomorrow's Keeneland card is an interesting one. I'll worry about Mo if/when he shows up on my PPs again.

GPK 10-06-2011 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TouchOfGrey (Post 809591)
I remain hopefully optimistic.



Read more: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...#ixzz1a1aOFKFf

Don't get me wrong, I would love it if they race him in 2012 and maybe 2013, but truthfully, I just don't see it happening.

GPK 10-06-2011 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 809594)
:tro::tro:

I know it's not Balmoral, but tomorrow's Keeneland card is an interesting one. I'll worry about Mo if/when he shows up on my PPs again.

:$::$:

Calzone Lord 10-06-2011 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 809593)
Stay Thirsty might be a better stallion prospect then MO. Those Indian Charlie's all suck

All of them? I think he's only had two horses who've had offspring race -- Bwana Charlie (4-for-19 lifetime) and Eugene's Third Son (never even won a stakes race in his racing career)

Indian Charlie 10-06-2011 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 809597)
All of them? I think he's only had two horses who've had offspring race -- Bwana Charlie (4-for-19 lifetime) and Eugene's Third Son (never even won a stakes race in his racing career)

Indian Express (SA Derby runnerup) and Cindago, both have done squat, with very limited books, in California.

Calzone Lord 10-06-2011 01:12 PM

Was Indian Express the best Utah bred of all-time?

parsixfarms 10-06-2011 01:24 PM

I wonder what the guys at WinStar think about this.

Indian Charlie 10-06-2011 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 809606)
Was Indian Express the best Utah bred of all-time?

No.

Quote:

Originally Posted by parsixfarms (Post 809611)
I wonder what the guys at WinStar think about this.

I wonder that too. I thought for certain he was going to be standing there.

I think Winstar does a great job building their stallions. Obviously Ashford has greater resources, but I'd have sent him to Winstar over Ashford.

asudevil 10-06-2011 01:36 PM

He's a phuckin miler! A one turn miler!

-BT- 10-06-2011 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 809594)
:tro::tro:

I know it's not Balmoral, but tomorrow's Keeneland card is an interesting one. I'll worry about Mo if/when he shows up on my PPs again.

that
just
happened
!



-bt-

Calzone Lord 10-06-2011 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asudevil (Post 809615)
He's a phuckin miler! A one turn miler!

His two-turn BC Juvie win was light years better than his Champagne win.

I think he's a pure distance horse -- I would certainly play against him in the BC dirt mile this year. I don't think he's naturally fast enough to prefer a one-turn mile compared to a two-turn route.

Even if you look at his Moss Pace Fig line in the King's Bishop -- true sprinter/milers don't run weird lines like that.

Sure -- if he gets an easy uncontested lead in the mud over a wet-track going a one-turn mile - he will look like a miler.

Indian Charlie 10-06-2011 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 809619)
His two-turn BC Juvie win was light years better than his Champagne win.

I think he's a pure distance horse -- I would certainly play against him in the BC dirt mile this year. I don't think he's naturally fast enough to prefer a one-turn mile compared to a two-turn route.

Even if you look at his Moss Pace Fig line in the King's Bishop -- true sprinter/milers don't run weird lines like that.

Sure -- if he gets an easy uncontested lead in the mud over a wet-track going a one-turn mile - he will look like a miler.

I don't know why this is not obvious to more people.

And I disagree with that last part. He didn't look like a miler to me the other day, and he never has.

Calzone Lord 10-06-2011 02:10 PM

I know you like to be a contrarian but he looked like a miler the other day.

Naturally very fast horses -- and horses who don't rate very kindly are the ones who struggle most making the step up to a two-turn route.

The day he won his debut by 14 at Saratoga -- there was a speed bias that day and JRV basically had to gun him and he was ridden to make a length lead. He was ridden a bit in the King's Bishop to keep from falling off the pace.

I don't think he has as much raw speed as a lot of people seem to think.

Indian Charlie 10-06-2011 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 809623)
I know you like to be a contrarian but he looked like a miler the other day.

Naturally very fast horses -- and horses who don't rate very kindly are the ones who struggle most making the step up to a two-turn route.

The day he won his debut by 14 at Saratoga -- there was a speed bias that day and JRV basically had to gun him and he was ridden to make a length lead. He was ridden a bit in the King's Bishop to keep from falling off the pace.

I don't think he has as much raw speed as a lot of people seem to think.

Right. That's why I don't think he's a miler. He's never run like a miler.

Cannon Shell 10-06-2011 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 809613)
No.



I wonder that too. I thought for certain he was going to be standing there.

I think Winstar does a great job building their stallions. Obviously Ashford has greater resources, but I'd have sent him to Winstar over Ashford.

They do?

freddymo 10-06-2011 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 809658)
They do?

Yeah in Ireland

Indian Charlie 10-06-2011 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 809658)
They do?

Are you implying Winstar has more money, more mares and success than Ashford/Coolmore?

If you are, I would like to get some of that stuff you are smoking.

freddymo 10-07-2011 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 809677)
Are you implying Winstar has more money, more mares and success than Ashford/Coolmore?

If you are, I would like to get some of that stuff you are smoking.

Both are well suited to give any major prospect a solid start.

Indian Charlie 10-07-2011 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 809708)
Both are well suited to give any major prospect a solid start.

Yes, I agree. I did say I'd rather send him to Winstar.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:00 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.