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GenuineRisk 10-05-2011 07:29 PM

Steve Jobs gone
 
Love Apples or hate them, Jobs really changed the way we live.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44294819...y_and_science/

GPK 10-06-2011 11:43 AM

:wf

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...BjPL_blog.html

GenuineRisk 10-06-2011 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 809575)

face/palm

joeydb 10-06-2011 09:12 PM

Rest in Peace. A great innovator who touched a lot of people's lives - for the better.

hi_im_god 10-06-2011 09:33 PM

fired and replaced by a pepsi exec.

you never know what's neXT.

bigrun 10-07-2011 12:04 PM


clyde 10-07-2011 12:34 PM

fakars copying headlines and RIPing.....he didn't change the way I live,very proud to say---or lived,I guess....anyways, nice croc tears all!.....

GenuineRisk 10-07-2011 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 809669)
fired and replaced by a pepsi exec.

you never know what's neXT.

And then neXT's operating system went on to become OS X when he returned to the company.

What I remember is how the original iMac influenced late 1990's appliance design. For awhile, it seemed like everything was sold in berry, blue, and green.

Clip-Clop 10-07-2011 03:46 PM

" I sure hope people don't think you can really use this thing while driving."
- Steve Jobs on the iPhone

jms62 10-07-2011 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 809778)
" I sure hope people don't think you can really use this thing while driving."
- Steve Jobs on the iPhone

Is that a serious quote?

pointman 10-07-2011 04:19 PM

It is ironic how all the liberal wall street protesters use his equipment and inventions to organize their protests.

jms62 10-07-2011 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 809784)
It is ironic how all the liberal wall street protesters use his equipment and inventions to organize their protests.

I get the feeling despite his riches he was quite liberal...

GenuineRisk 10-07-2011 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 809786)
I get the feeling despite his riches he was quite liberal...

He contributed pretty much entirely to Democratic candidates, but the co-founder of Apple, Steve Wozniak, described Steve Jobs as an Ayn Rand-style Objectivist, so make of any of that what you will.

pointman 10-07-2011 05:20 PM

Creating and running the 2nd largest Fortune 500 company in America isn't exactly in the liberal playbook.

Riot 10-07-2011 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 809801)
Creating and running the 2nd largest Fortune 500 company in America isn't exactly in the liberal playbook.

Geesh, can we stop the ridiculous assumptions? See Gates, Bill; Buffett, Warren, etc. "Liberals" (as you blindly lump millions of people together in your mind) demonstrably admire accomplishment and wealth creation as much as anybody.

As an aside, Jobs campaign finance contributes are available on the internet.

As someone who lived when it was truly exciting as computers became commonly available (I personally recall a Commodore TS 80), thank you, Steve Jobs.

pointman 10-07-2011 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 809804)
Geesh, can we stop the ridiculous assumptions? See Gates, Bill; Buffett, Warren, etc. "Liberals" (as you blindly lump millions of people together in your mind) demonstrably admire accomplishment and wealth creation as much as anybody.

As an aside, Jobs campaign finance contributes are available on the internet.

As someone who lived when it was truly exciting as computers became commonly available (I personally recall a Commodore TS 80), thank you, Steve Jobs.

As you are typically want to do, your response has nothing to do with my original point, that is, the irony of the liberal wall street protesters using the very items to communicate to organize the protests against the big companies that manufacture and sell them.

As for Gates and Buffet, their principles are ironic as well as they have certainly taken advantage of a system that liberals loathe and seek to destroy. The only one who makes ridiculous assumptions is you. And for the record, before you play your typical part of the victim, you once again are the one to take the first shot at me.

Indian Charlie 10-07-2011 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 809804)
Geesh, can we stop the ridiculous assumptions? See Gates, Bill; Buffett, Warren, etc. "Liberals" (as you blindly lump millions of people together in your mind) demonstrably admire accomplishment and wealth creation as much as anybody.

As an aside, Jobs campaign finance contributes are available on the internet.

As someone who lived when it was truly exciting as computers became commonly available (I personally recall a Commodore TS 80), thank you, Steve Jobs.

Steve Jobs was scum of the Earth.

Commodore didn't make the TS 80. It was Tandy, for Radio Shack, and it was the TRS-80.

Very little of what Jobs did, or came up with, was original or innovative. He copied others ideas and did a much better job of packaging and marketing those ideas.

He was ruthless and cared naught for whom or whatever he hurt.

GenuineRisk 10-07-2011 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 809810)
As you are typically want to do, your response has nothing to do with my original point, that is, the irony of the liberal wall street protesters using the very items to communicate to organize the protests against the big companies that manufacture and sell them.

As for Gates and Buffet, their principles are ironic as well as they have certainly taken advantage of a system that liberals loathe and seek to destroy. The only one who makes ridicuolous assumptions is you. And for the record, before you play your typical part of the victim, you once again are the one to take the first shot at me.

Er... no. They're protesting the Wall Street firms, which are not firms that actually make or build anything; they are merely firms that make gambles with other people's money on whether the perceived value of companies that do build and make things will rise or fall. There's nothing ironic at all in protesters using manufactured devices they purchased to tweet and photograph while protesting Wall Street's outsized influence on the USA. Now, if the protesters were calling their brokers while protesting, that'd be ironic.

Riot 10-07-2011 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 809810)
As you are typically want to do, your response has nothing to do with my original point, that is, the irony of the liberal wall street protesters using the very items to communicate to organize the protests against the big companies that manufacture and sell them.

Thanks for making my point for me: your ridiculous attempt at irony completely fails due to the demonstrable falsity of your assumptions.

You've now changed that assumption to be that "liberal wall street protesters" (false assumption, again) are railing against big companies that create their social media enabling. You clearly have zero idea what Occupy Wall Street is all about, and "who" they are protesting against, and why.

Because that sure as hell ain't it.

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As for Gates and Buffet, their principles are ironic as well as they have certainly taken advantage of a system that liberals loathe and seek to destroy.
Wow, there's those darn "liberals" again, all "loathing and seeking to destroy".

You're not filled with too many proven false assumptive prejudices at all, are you? :D

Go look at the Forbes list of the current Top 15 Billionaires on Wiki or Forbes. Please note which ones worked for and created their own wealth in this country (oh, those nasty liberals and Democrats!) and which merely inherited it? (why, those are dependable Republican donors!)

I'm so tired of hearing that silly false "liberals hate corporations and wealth and money" whining. It's demonstrably baloney.

Don't get mad just because you've been called out on it. And thanks for hijacking a thread about Steve Jobs to diss those "liberals" you apparently dislike so much.

pointman 10-07-2011 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 809814)
Er... no. They're protesting the Wall Street firms, which are not firms that actually make or build anything; they are merely firms that make gambles with other people's money on whether the perceived value of companies that do build and make things will rise or fall. There's nothing ironic at all in protesters using manufactured devices they purchased to tweet and photograph while protesting Wall Street's outsized influence on the USA. Now, if the protesters were calling their brokers while protesting, that'd be ironic.

Er, no. In reality, these morons don't know what they are protesting against. You do realize that those very brokers sell shares in the corporations which build the capitol and worth of the corporations that manufacture and sell the very devices that the morons that are protesting use to communicate to organize their protests?

Do you really think there would be an Apple without Wall Street?

GenuineRisk 10-07-2011 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 809813)
Commodore didn't make the TS 80. It was Tandy, for Radio Shack, and it was the TRS-80.

I had a comic book as a little girl that had a 24-page insert inside it of a mini-comic starring Superman. I remember the plot was that he encountered some kind of Kryptonite that frazzled his brain so he couldn't make calculations like how fast to fly, etc. So two little schoolkids got on their TRS-80 and did the calculations for him so he could go save out-of-control trains or whatever the catastrophes that required mathematical calculations were.

Of course, it was really just a 24-page advertisement for the TRS-80, but I remember it better than I do the comic book it came with.

Riot was probably thinking of the Commodore 64, which is the other one I remember from around that time, give or take.

Riot 10-07-2011 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 809813)

Commodore didn't make the TS 80. It was Tandy, for Radio Shack, and it was the TRS-80.

LOL - that's it, thanks! Wasn't all that long ago in years, but eons in tech time.

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Very little of what Jobs did, or came up with, was original or innovative. He copied others ideas and did a much better job of packaging and marketing those ideas.

He was ruthless and cared naught for whom or whatever he hurt.
Yes, Jobs sucked, and it's good of you to point that out in his obituary!

Riot 10-07-2011 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 809816)
Er, no. In reality, these morons don't know what they are protesting against. You do realize that those very brokers sell shares in the corporations which build the capitol and worth of the corporations that manufacture and sell the very devices that the morons that are protesting use to communicate to organize their protests?

Do you really think there would be an Apple without Wall Street?

There was an Apple without Wall Street.

You've conflated selling ownership in a corporation (what Wall Street used to do) with gambling (which is what Wall Street does now).

GenuineRisk 10-07-2011 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 809816)
Er, no. In reality, these morons don't know what they are protesting against. You do realize that those very brokers sell shares in the corporations which build the capitol and worth of the corporations that manufacture and sell the very devices that the morons that are protesting use to communicate to organize their protests?

Do you really think there would be an Apple without Wall Street?

In reality, you're just repeating the mainstream media's talking points about the protests.

Get back to me on the details of credit default swaps and what that had to do with getting money into the hands of Apple.

The Koch brothers are doing quite well for themselves and their company is entirely privately owned.

pointman 10-07-2011 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 809823)
There was an Apple without Wall Street.

You've conflated selling ownership in a corporation (what Wall Street used to do) with gambling (which is what Wall Street does now).

Banging one's head against a wall is a better use of time than arguing against a dolt like you.

I suppose that the chants protesting against corporate greed are against the brokers, not the Fortune 500 corporations, you know some of the same ones who make the devices the protesters use to orgainize their protests. I will reiterate, these protesters don't even know what they are protesting against, but of course, you think you know what it is about because you know everything.

I never said the protests made sense because they don't. Sure there was an Apple without Wall Street, that was in Steve Jobs' garage. The one that sells macs, iphones, ipads and ipods came about with Wall Street.

Oh, as far as highjacking a thread, it is again another irony that the D.B. Cooper of highjacking threads would direct that comment at another.

pointman 10-07-2011 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 809828)
In reality, you're just repeating the mainstream media's talking points about the protests.

Get back to me on the details of credit default swaps and what that had to do with getting money into the hands of Apple.

The Koch brothers are doing quite well for themselves and their company is entirely privately owned.

No, I am stating the truth regarding these stupid protests which actually disrupt the lives of those of us in New York who work hard for our money, plain and simple.

Coach Pants 10-07-2011 07:03 PM

That money you're working hard for is worthless.

Riot 10-07-2011 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 809830)
Banging one's head against a wall is a better use of time than arguing against a dolt like you.

The ad hominem scurry-under-a-rock defense for those of the "haven't a clue" tribe ;)

Riot 10-07-2011 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 809831)
No, I am stating the truth regarding these stupid protests which actually disrupt the lives of those of us in New York who work hard for our money, plain and simple.

You poor thing. Those nasty, dirty "others" ruining your view.

pointman 10-07-2011 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 809833)
The ad hominem scurry-under-a-rock defense for those of the "haven't a clue" tribe ;)

Do you own a vibrator?

GenuineRisk 10-07-2011 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 809831)
No, I am stating the truth regarding these stupid protests which actually disrupt the lives of those of us in New York who work hard for our money, plain and simple.

It must be infuriating to royalty when the peasants forget their place.

Coach Pants 10-07-2011 07:27 PM

Those stupid kids need to stop smoking pot and listening to that headbanger music and get a jerb.

GenuineRisk 10-07-2011 07:36 PM


Riot 10-07-2011 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 809835)
Do you own a vibrator?

I thought you were over 25. Seems I'm quite mistaken :D

Riot 10-07-2011 07:44 PM




pointman 10-07-2011 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 809837)
It must be infuriating to royalty when the peasants forget their place.

Oh, I get the logic. If you state that you think the Wall Street protesters are morons who disrupt a city when they don't even know what they are protesting against, you must be an elitist who thinks the poor should rot in hell! Great logic! Let them eat cake! :rolleyes:

pointman 10-07-2011 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 809834)
You poor thing. Those nasty, dirty "others" ruining your view.

Yes, let's not make assumptions. Those who protest without a clue as to what they are protesting or a permit and illegally disrupt the lives of others must be "dirty." It is not like you ever twist the words of others. You are not a hypocrite, always the victim!

Riot 10-07-2011 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 809856)
Yes, let's not make assumptions. Those who protest without a clue as to what they are protesting or a permit and illegally disrupt the lives of others must be "dirty." It is not like you ever twist the words of others. You are not a hypocrite, always the victim!

Please - go try to learn just a little something about Occupy Wall Street, and perhaps also the "liberal agenda", before you embarrass yourself further via your ignorant statements.

And perhaps even learn about "permits" and "legally", too, before you throw out more of your nonsensical accusations.

And, you might wanna see somebody about that, "when I get angry with other people, I bring up sex" thing. Creepy weird.

pointman 10-07-2011 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 809859)
Please - go try to learn just a little something about Occupy Wall Street, and perhaps also the "liberal agenda", before you embarrass yourself further via your ignorant statements.

And perhaps even learn about "permits" and "legally", too, before you throw out more of your nonsensical accusations.

And, you might wanna see somebody about that, "when I get angry with other people, I bring up sex" thing. Creepy weird.

Just the kind of nonsensical deflected response I expected from you. If I wanted to embarrass myself I would support Obama and his failing policies like you do.

Oh, it is not weird, I was just wondering what makes you such an angry bitch. You might want to do something about that, it is not appealing. What is weird, but highly predicable, is your penchant to immediately attack anything I say on this forum without regard to merit.

You are entertaining though, even if it is people like you who are hell bent on destroying this country with your dimwit politics. Why don't you join the protest, you will be right at home.

clyde 10-07-2011 09:27 PM

I may be dead, but even I can see the blood curdling match in typewriting analysis by RitaRiot and GenuineCrazyLady.


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