Obama tells asthmatic kids to take one for the economy
 

Yes - Obama acts like a Republican again!

so I take it you're not going to vote for him! that evil GOPer

That would be a silly assumption, considering the current crop of whacky cult members pretending to be candidates.

American Lung Association goes ahead with lawsuit after Obama administration decision:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/0...yes&via=blog_1

No choice, guy is worse than Bush if you are a greeny.

Our options next year will be Dumb and Dumber.

Hopefully the dude from Utah gets the nod. That or Ron Paul. I've given up on my choice of Newt.. he wont make the nomination.

Or, you could go with Rick Perry, the Dominionist who just accepted millions in federal funds for rail development in Texas.

Joey and Del and Canon your silence is deafening on this issue.

i agree with his move...as an aside, i am not sure why taking federqal dollars has become anathema. the fed should never have become the clearinghouse for our money, taking in billions and then 'bestowing its largesse'. its our money, not the feds money.

So about the same number of additional people die or would die as cirrhosis of the liver - why are we not banning alcohol?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._death_by_rate



Sgt. Barnes in Platoon "Everybody gotta die some time, Red"

How about the parents of asthmatic kids moving them away from LA?

Or would that require too much self-responsibility?

You know how it is nowadays Dell. You smoke for 30 years then sue the tobacco company when you get cancer.. You buy a house on a flood plan which requires flood insurance and then when you flood you raise your hands crying that the government should buy you out.

What the hell does that have to do with the article? You - again - didn't even read it, did you?

How about everybody else? You know, the people that don't have asthma that live there: heart attacks, strokes, COPD, emphysema, sinus infections, ear infections, hypertension?

Or are you really taking the position that people should be allowed to pollute our common air with impunity?

It becomes an anathema - rather, blatant hypocrisy - when the person - in this instance, Rick Perry - publicly says it is an anathema to his supporters, over and over, making that a campaign stand and making it the very subject of his most recent book, "Fed Up!", and a heavy dose in his previous book.

But then he takes that money. For high-speed rail. Or to balance his repeatedly overdrawn budget (while he credits his own self for that and campaigns upon it)

And it is "the feds" money, because our Constitution gives us the power to collect taxes for our common good. "Largesse" is a strange choice of words. We live in a cooperative society, that we agree to all contribute towards financially. It is one of the major differences between the articles we had before the Constitution, and what they fine-tuned the Constitution to include.

i have been studying us history a lot lately, my current focus is the civil war era. however, i have also done a lot of reading about this countrys founding. the fed was never meant to be the bloated thing it has become, a collector and redistributor of tax money. local pols trumpeting their success at getting 'federal funds' while everyone ignores how the fed got those funds to begin with. i get your point tho about pols decrying taking money and then touting that receipt of funds. but the issue should really be the system itself. it makes no sense.
matter of fact, as far as money redistribution goes, and how it makes NO sense...look at homeland security. when they started parceling that money out, you had communities screaming for their fair share, when in fact many of those communities arent any target at all..so then legit targets dont get enough to cover their needs. its a joke.

I agree with alot of what you said, above.

I just read a fascinating article. Written by "Mike Lofgren retired on June 17 after 28 years as a Congressional staffer. He served 16 years as a professional staff member on the Republican side of both the House and Senate Budget Committees."

It outlines, very succinctly and clearly, as I've not otherwise seen, the current state of disruptive politics in this country, in Washington, the goals and behind-the-scenes plans of the current Republican party (and evangelical interaction) and tells why he retired now. A bit long, but worth it.

And no, he doesn't like or favor Democrats.

"Goodbye to All That: Reflections of a GOP Operative Who Left the Cult"
Saturday 3 September 2011
by: Mike Lofgren, Truthout | News Analysis

http://www.truth-out.org/goodbye-all...ult/1314907779

I don't know that you valued our opinion? My opinion is that Obama wants to win the election. It isn't like the guy is on the wrong side of an issue 100% of the time...

Chuck, Ship's Cabin just came back and raced at Arlington Thursday - I think first race? Didn't do anything, but looked good :)

Is every topic going to lead to you knocking Perry now? I guess you ran out of Palin material?

I don't remember agreeing to contribute financially to society.

Seriously? Truthout? lol

Ships Cabin=money burner

Palin is an idiot, she's done. Barely hanging on to trying to be a celebrity now that Rupert has no interest left in her. Perry I find dangerous due to the Dominionist connection (see the preachers present at his recent prayer meeting). I won't vote for someone who thinks his god comes before my country. That's Perry, Bachmann, Palin.

You agree to spend when we elect officials to office. A challenge to the IRS years ago determined that you have to still pay taxes, even if you don't like everything the government does ;)

I can't believe he came back, last time I think was February or March, he's been off for some months, I think. Yes, he would be better suited as my pet hack horse.

God, no, don't read that website, just read this one article :tro:

He wouldn't even be good at doing that. He can eat grass well however.

we agree to spend because we elect officials? lol not quite...but if that is the case, then we should have the option to keep an office vacant to avoid poor financial decisions by pols.
i think your logic here is flawed. our govt is supposed to be of, for, by...they are supposed to be good stewards of our resources. they are not supposed to be people who rule over us with heavy hands, telling the little people that they know best.

So you are pleased with Obama on this issue?

I'll be more pleased if he actually does allow more drilling, in addition to the pipelines, AND increase our refining capacity, AND get the drilling back in the gulf.

I'll be ecstatic if he gets drilling in ANWR.

More U.S. oil, less imports.

Exactly why I will probably never vote Republican again ;)

:rolleyes:

Sources of U.S. Oil Imports

Each day, the U.S. uses about 21 million barrels of oil- more than any other country in the world.


It imports about 58% of it. Here’s where we get the oil.

11% Canada
11 Mexico
9 Saudi Arabia
8 Venezuela
7 Nigeria
4 Iraq
8 25 other countries

Source: U.S. Dept. of Energy.

Not sure where your figures are from but they are a good bit off
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move...0_mbblpd_a.htm
Canada is far more important, OPEC is still heavily involved though.

US Department of Energy, but it doesn't list the years covered.

I like your chart that shows Canada is 21% of our imported oil (I thought it was more), Opec countries 49%.

There is no reason for us to use so much oil in this day and age - we go through it like crack cocaine addicts.

And you would know this....how?

Rita,dahling...were you ever one of the 6 Flags Over Texas?

Oooooooooo

Does anyone here know if oil is a finite or infinite resource?

Does the infinity of lack of infinity of a resource determine any decision made regarding that particular resource??

Thank you so much.



But please..next time --purple.