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Rudeboyelvis 09-01-2011 06:22 PM

Tyler Baze - put the whiskey down, son
 
Gone indefinitely - showed up this morning and refused a breathalyzer.

Dude has been through a lot, what with his brother and injuries and so on - my heart goes out to him...but man, can't be showin' up in the bag. Not cool.

http://www.drf.com/news/del-mar-tyle...d-indefinitely

freddymo 09-01-2011 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 804352)
Gone indefinitely - showed up this morning and refused a breathalyzer.

Dude has been through a lot, what with his brother and injuries and so on - my heart goes out to him...but man, can't be showin' up in the bag. Not cool.

http://www.drf.com/news/del-mar-tyle...d-indefinitely

I live in the bag

hockey2315 09-01-2011 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 804352)
Gone indefinitely - showed up this morning and refused a breathalyzer.

Dude has been through a lot, what with his brother and injuries and so on - my heart goes out to him...but man, can't be showin' up in the bag. Not cool.

http://www.drf.com/news/del-mar-tyle...d-indefinitely

Michael was his cousin. . .

GPK 09-01-2011 07:26 PM

Alcohol can be a real motha f*cka:wf

Rudeboyelvis 09-01-2011 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 804357)
Michael was his cousin. . .

Yup - my bad... last two winners on the card were both his mounts... As bad as he's been this meet, I probably wouldn't have used either

geeker2 09-01-2011 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK (Post 804360)
Alcohol can be a real motha f*cka:wf

As I recall he also was a binge/purger...also a real motha f*cka.

Honu 09-02-2011 11:37 AM

Del Mar: Tyler Baze suspended indefinitely | Daily Racing Form


This sheds a whole diffirent light on the subject.

Calzone Lord 09-02-2011 11:52 AM

Another facebook friend/kid from my Jr year lunch table dropped dead yesterday.

I've now outlived half the lunch table. 6 of the 12 are now dead. 4 Drugs -- 1 hit on bike -- 1 drowned in a swimming pool. And one of them got blown half to pieces in Iraq and survived -- and got his picture taken with Bush no less.

hoovesupsideyourhead 09-02-2011 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 804460)
Another facebook friend/kid from my Jr year lunch table dropped dead yesterday.

I've now outlived half the lunch table. 6 of the 12 are now dead. 4 Drugs -- 1 hit on bike -- 1 drowned in a swimming pool. And one of them got blown half to pieces in Iraq and survived -- and got his picture taken with Bush no less.

please dont group the guy that gave his legs for freedom with dumb shits who od..

Calzone Lord 09-02-2011 12:01 PM

He's ten cents on a dollar to go next.

robfla 09-02-2011 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 804462)
He's ten cents on a dollar to go next.

what if you go next, and I bet against, who do I collect from?

Left Bank 09-04-2011 12:42 PM

So is Tyler the new version of PVAL ?

Seattleallstar 09-04-2011 01:11 PM

hes not even a PVAL, I think Pval already had ky derby, BC wins at Tylers age already. Tyler was close a few times when he started out hot and he was around the Baffert barn early in his career, but oh how times have changed

helicopter11 09-04-2011 05:45 PM

I think Mike Smith is hitting the bottle too. He has only won 2 races at Del Mar and one of them was the match race he won against Chantal.

docicu3 09-04-2011 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by helicopter11 (Post 805023)
I think Mike Smith is hitting the bottle too. He has only won 2 races at Del Mar and one of them was the match race he won against Chantal.

Yeah that is conclusive for a jock being under the influence......perhaps the mounts he's riding have a tad to do with a lack of winning and poor earnings....

Surely Baze sees sleeping without CS to be quite uncomfortable......It's not a reach to understand his point.

The men and women who have given their lives for this country find your analogy beyond repulsive, the connection between the problems of the Baze family though clearly a reason for sincere empathy, and this hideous war, is like blaming CPR for killing patients who receive it when they drop from sudden cardiac death.

They both are in severe pain but have nothing to do with how they experience it or why it occurred to them.
One unfortunately creates their own pain, the other is trying to save lives and cares little about their own pain as a consequence of saving the lives of others.....

helicopter11 09-04-2011 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by docicu3 (Post 805032)
Yeah that is conclusive for a jock being under the influence......perhaps the mounts he's riding have a tad to do with a lack of winning and poor earnings....

Surely Baze sees sleeping without CS to be quite uncomfortable......It's not a reach to understand his point.

The men and women who have given their lives for this country find your analogy beyond repulsive, the connection between the problems of the Baze family though clearly a reason for sincere empathy, and this hideous war, is like blaming CPR for killing patients who receive it when they drop from sudden cardiac death.

They both are in severe pain but have nothing to do with how they experience it or why it occurred to them.
One unfortunately creates their own pain, the other is trying to save lives and cares little about their own pain as a consequence of saving the lives of others.....

About Mike Smith. He has been winning at 15 percent of his races this year all of a sudden drop to wininng only 4 percent of his mounts at Del Mar. Maybe too quick to judge of any personal issues he may have. However, I am not sure where you are going with your reply above.

Dahoss 09-04-2011 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by docicu3 (Post 805032)
Yeah that is conclusive for a jock being under the influence......perhaps the mounts he's riding have a tad to do with a lack of winning and poor earnings....

Surely Baze sees sleeping without CS to be quite uncomfortable......It's not a reach to understand his point.

The men and women who have given their lives for this country find your analogy beyond repulsive, the connection between the problems of the Baze family though clearly a reason for sincere empathy, and this hideous war, is like blaming CPR for killing patients who receive it when they drop from sudden cardiac death.

They both are in severe pain but have nothing to do with how they experience it or why it occurred to them.
One unfortunately creates their own pain, the other is trying to save lives and cares little about their own pain as a consequence of saving the lives of others.....

Ummm....what in the hell are you talking about?

Left Bank 09-04-2011 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by docicu3 (Post 805032)
Yeah that is conclusive for a jock being under the influence......perhaps the mounts he's riding have a tad to do with a lack of winning and poor earnings....

Surely Baze sees sleeping without CS to be quite uncomfortable......It's not a reach to understand his point.

The men and women who have given their lives for this country find your analogy beyond repulsive, the connection between the problems of the Baze family though clearly a reason for sincere empathy, and this hideous war, is like blaming CPR for killing patients who receive it when they drop from sudden cardiac death.

They both are in severe pain but have nothing to do with how they experience it or why it occurred to them.
One unfortunately creates their own pain, the other is trying to save lives and cares little about their own pain as a consequence of saving the lives of others.....

Way too much meth.

nomad 09-04-2011 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docicu3 (Post 805032)
Yeah that is conclusive for a jock being under the influence......perhaps the mounts he's riding have a tad to do with a lack of winning and poor earnings....

Surely Baze sees sleeping without CS to be quite uncomfortable......It's not a reach to understand his point.

The men and women who have given their lives for this country find your analogy beyond repulsive, the connection between the problems of the Baze family though clearly a reason for sincere empathy, and this hideous war, is like blaming CPR for killing patients who receive it when they drop from sudden cardiac death.

They both are in severe pain but have nothing to do with how they experience it or why it occurred to them.
One unfortunately creates their own pain, the other is trying to save lives and cares little about their own pain as a consequence of saving the lives of others.....

WTF?

BTW I know CS is Chantal Sutherland but who the heck is CPR?

docicu3 09-05-2011 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by nomad (Post 805090)
WTF?

BTW I know CS is Chantal Sutherland but who the heck is CPR?

The quote and the first half of the previous post is missing making it completely insane to read and embarassing to admit but that's the truth. Rather than duplicate it.....I'll use a quote from SNL of years gone by and simply say...

"Never Mind".....

2MinsToPost 09-05-2011 08:50 PM

Alky's are sick just like someone who has cancer.

Danzig 09-05-2011 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost (Post 805239)
Alky's are sick just like someone who has cancer.

well, except alcoholics can decide to get better. but i'm comforted in knowing that since it's a disease, that the americans with disabilities act seems to help a drunk trucker keep his job on the road. :rolleyes:

ateamstupid 09-05-2011 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost (Post 805239)
Alky's are sick just like someone who has cancer.

*wanking motion* - Everyone with cancer

Fearless Leader 09-06-2011 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docicu3 (Post 805032)
Yeah that is conclusive for a jock being under the influence......perhaps the mounts he's riding have a tad to do with a lack of winning and poor earnings....

Surely Baze sees sleeping without CS to be quite uncomfortable......It's not a reach to understand his point.

The men and women who have given their lives for this country find your analogy beyond repulsive, the connection between the problems of the Baze family though clearly a reason for sincere empathy, and this hideous war, is like blaming CPR for killing patients who receive it when they drop from sudden cardiac death.

They both are in severe pain but have nothing to do with how they experience it or why it occurred to them.
One unfortunately creates their own pain, the other is trying to save lives and cares little about their own pain as a consequence of saving the lives of others.....

Surely there must be a law in Bykland strictly prohibiting PUI. :zz:

MaTH716 09-06-2011 02:26 PM

Posting this here, because it's really not new thready worthy.

But just noticed that Kala Stra(54 4 1 2) has more wins at Del Mar than Mike Smith (58 3 4 5 {one win is from that ridiculous match race}). I think that's unbeeelieevable.........

gamblin4ever 09-06-2011 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 805245)
well, except alcoholics can decide to get better. but i'm comforted in knowing that since it's a disease, that the americans with disabilities act seems to help a drunk trucker keep his job on the road. :rolleyes:

drunk trucker loses license and job with dui/dwi

gamblin4ever 09-06-2011 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 805297)
Posting this here, because it's really not new thready worthy.

But just noticed that Kala Stra(54 4 1 2) has more wins at Del Mar than Mike Smith (58 3 4 5 {one win is from that ridiculous match race}). I think that's unbeeelieevable.........

Are her wins all from the turf?

MaTH716 09-06-2011 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gamblin4ever (Post 805323)
Are her wins all from the turf?

I honestly don't know, but it really doesn't matter. You would think that Smith is also getting much better horses to ride. I was just shocked when I saw it.

Danzig 09-06-2011 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by gamblin4ever (Post 805322)
drunk trucker loses license and job with dui/dwi

Citing a violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act, the Obama administration is suing a trucking company for taking the keys away from an Arkansas driver and eventually firing him after he admitted he was battling alcohol abuse.

The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission filed a lawsuit this week arguing that Old Dominion Freight Line discriminated against Charles Grams by stripping him of his position and offering him a demotion even if he completed a substance abuse counseling program.

Instead, the EEOC argued, the North Carolina-based company, which has a service center in Arkansas, should have complied with the law, known as the ADA, while ensuring safety.

“The ADA mandates that persons with disabilities have an equal opportunity to achieve in the workplace,” said Katharine Kores, director of the EEOCs Memphis District Office, which covers Arkansas. “While the EEOC agrees that an employer’s concern regarding safety on our highways is a legitimate issue, an employer can both ensure safety and comply with the ADA.”

Steve Hayward added this from Lachlan Markay of the Heritage Foundation explains:

If the EEOC prevails, of course, it will mean that Old Dominion will still be liable both for any damage to life or property that results from a potential relapse by one of its recovering drivers – which in turn increases the risks involved in investment in the company – and for the cost of trying to ensure that such damage never occurs. All of these new burdens will raise Old Dominion’s cost of doing business, and hence the cost of everything they transport. And all of this can’t possibly ensure that a recovering driver does not relapse without the company’s knowledge.

Rudeboyelvis 09-07-2011 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 805378)
I honestly don't know, but it really doesn't matter. You would think that Smith is also getting much better horses to ride. I was just shocked when I saw it.

Matt, He really seemed to take a very casual attitude there this meet - almost as if he was riding as a favor for certain trainers/owners. His mounts were never world beaters but certainly much more live than anything thrown Stra's way, and few and far between (58 total for the meeting).

Stra on the other hand, never had anything live and just rode her guts out. Almost funny to see Baffert use her on Sunday - any time a Baffert firster goes off @ 6-1, it might as well be 66-1. If they're even rumored to be live they get crushed. I thought she had a great meet and hope she gets some classier opportunities @ SA.

I can't and won't try to physically tie Baze's struggle with his work, but it was crystal clear that something was way off with him. He ruined a bunch of winning efforts as his timing was off and his reactions were not fluid. Cost me a pick 4 on Sir Bell's drop in class (watch the race - it is a perfect example of what I'm describing) who went on to win two in a row without him. That was just one example of at least 6 other rides I could reference.

Hope he gets the help he needs and comes back stronger... shame to see talented people destroy themselves.

ateamstupid 09-07-2011 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 805378)
I honestly don't know, but it really doesn't matter. You would think that Smith is also getting much better horses to ride. I was just shocked when I saw it.

Really? You were shocked? The guy hasn't ridden like a top rider in 5+ years. If it weren't for Zenyatta, no one would even know his name anymore.

MaTH716 09-07-2011 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 805427)
Really? You were shocked? The guy hasn't ridden like a top rider in 5+ years. If it weren't for Zenyatta, no one would even know his name anymore.

I'll admit that I'm not a big fan of him Joey, but to be behind Kala Stra?
I just assumed that he was still considered a go to jock out there and although he was riding fewer mounts, many of them were live.

my miss storm cat 09-07-2011 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 805297)
Posting this here, because it's really not new thready worthy.

But just noticed that Kala Stra(54 4 1 2) has more wins at Del Mar than Mike Smith (58 3 4 5 {one win is from that ridiculous match race}). I think that's unbeeelieevable.........

Whoa I had no idea!

Fun thread. :D

Back to Tyler... Poor kid has been through a lot. I wish him all the best.

Stickhorse 02-27-2012 08:44 PM

Any Tyler Baze updates?
 
I saw a HRTV's Inside Information piece about Tyler Baze. It commented about his struggles with alcohol but was probably produced about a year ago.

Anybody have an idea what is happening with Tyler now?

The DRF link below says he remains suspended and still has not satisfactorily served a 30 Rehab Program mandated by the SoCal stewards.

http://www.drf.com/news/hollywood-ty...-entered-rehab

Coach Pants 02-28-2012 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Stickhorse (Post 841660)

Anybody have an idea what is happening with Tyler now?








Danzig 02-28-2012 12:25 PM

i would imagine what's happening with tyler is that he's still denying he has a problem, that he can quit at any time, but right now he doesn't want to quit drinking.
he will either realize he has a problem and do something about it...or he will decide he doesn't, and will end up dying in an alleyway. feel bad for his family-it can't be fun watching someone self-destruct and be helpless to do anything about it.

Stickhorse 02-28-2012 01:05 PM

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I guess the poor guy has taken to having to book his own mounts for his comeback.

v j stauffer 02-28-2012 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 841717)







Very classy. You should be so proud. Humor at another hurting human's expense.

What makes the internet such a lovely place.

Hold your head high. It must be a great day for you.

Danzig 02-28-2012 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 841742)
Very classy. You should be so proud. Humor at another hurting human's expense.

What makes the internet such a lovely place.

Hold your head high. It must be a great day for you.


what was wrong with it? the guy is mocking someone who is wasting his life and talents. i don't know that tyler is the victim here. his issues are self-inflicted. he has the ability to rise above it, but right now chooses not to. if he's hurting, it's his own fault.

v j stauffer 02-28-2012 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 841797)
what was wrong with it? the guy is mocking someone who is wasting his life and talents. i don't know that tyler is the victim here. his issues are self-inflicted. he has the ability to rise above it, but right now chooses not to. if he's hurting, it's his own fault.

If you don't know what's wrong with that posting. Explaining it to you would be useless.

Is it the FAULT of someone that's hurting because of Cancer, or MS or any other debilitating disease? None of those self inflicted.

Your ignorance and insensitivity is even more frightening than Coach's hate.

Unbeileveable!


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