First couple weeks of Saratoga
 

with favorites not winning, and having a few prices in the first few days of the meet. Should we expect more formful results, or should I keep looking for the "value" horses.

Any horse player should always be looking for the value in the race.

I look for winners if the favorite is who I like, there is no value in betting a value horse who doesnt win. I eat chalk and I swing for the fences. The price of a horse does not affect my handicapping or betting.

Really?

Consider the source

On the turf, I would continue to look for horses that have shown speed.

4 cards.....32.5% of the post time favorites have won.

thats a pretty surprising percentage, thats about the right percentage for favorites winning at a track. It seems that they have had alot of nice prices come in. Some of which I have been the beneficiary of.

yeah what people bet doesnt affect a horses peformance, only time I will look at a price of a horse is in a maiden race, obv if a horse is taking the money its probably the goods.

I have been doing very well as of late, I tweaked a few things with my handicapping and have learned from mistakes in the past I refused to change. Learned a few things, dropped some bad habits/angles, and humbled myself to know I have alot to learn and I have done alot of foolish things. Two people have said insanity is when you do the same thing over and over hoping to achieve a different result. So I stopped what I have been doing over and over again. I have learned my lesson and adjusted, so far its paying off.

This is an example of non-specific RDBRDNG.

This as well.

geez what a tough crowd.

:D

I wouldn't be so sure now that it finally got some rain.

I've never met a horseplayer who doesn't look at odds. That's a pretty damn ridiculous approach.

I look at the odds when im done handicapping, and do put huge win bets on horses I really like whether it be even money or 20-1.

I generally do things in reverse. I look at the huge payoffs from my huge win bets, subtract 2 or 3 or 4 zeros (depending how huge of a bet I made), then divide by 2 then subtract 1. Then I know what the horses odds were.:zz:

:D

That's after Monday's sloppy results with scratch reduced fields (Four favories won nine races).

After Sunday the fav winning % was 29.03%

That is correct, but why does it matter what the track condition was or how short the fields were?

The thread starter said favorites were not winning and just pointed out that he was incorrect.

Good luck with that!

last time I checked thoroughbred race horses dont check out their odds on the tote board;)

Looking at the first day 3 favorites won out of 10 races, the rest of the winners paid pretty damn good. Which is what probably started to create that illusion for me that favorites werent winning

2nd day looks like you had 5 favorites winning, but two of them were at 3-1 which is a long price on chalk. But as percentages go favorites nonetheless

3rd day looks like three favorites won, one of which looked to be a co fav at 2-1

But Monday looked like to be the day where favorites won all day, hence that 29% moved up to 33%. I didnt play or look at Monday's card either.

Make that three, me. From life experience.