Jerardi: Guerrero just a better trainer than everyone else
 

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/...html?viewAll=y

A little hard to swallow..

More than a little. And Jerardi is no novice either.

Paul

Everybody knows an ice machine makes all the difference. GEEZ.

He is going to regret giving away a top secret training method like using ice. Now other trainers have the top secret playbook to 40% win rates.

lol. the best part of the link is the "Phillies" tag on the top :)

hay, oats, ice water.

Jerardi's arrogance seeps through in this puff piece.

Apparently Dick knows the "formula" on how to spot a "juice" trainer and somehow a guy who bats 50+% off the claim with a sizable sample size doesn't fit into that profile.

I think it laughable that Guerrero now has a "program" where he goes over them teeth to tail and has a brand new ice machine. Funny he brought up steroids since his horses all look like they have been getting steady diet of them.

I remember when CBS sports covered Shifty Shieks close Woodward loss to Slew O Gold and they did a piece on Oscar where he said his success after many years lacking it was due to different shoes. Even noted shill Brent Musberger acted skeptical about the claim.

I sent a email to Jerardi asking of he believed Sammy Sosa doesnt speak English, Mark McGwire worked hard to hit 70 home runs or if ice had anything to do with Barry Bonds enormous head. I don't expect a reply. I should have asked him if he believed in the tooth fairy.

That's funny - I thought immediately of Oscar and Mark McGuire when I read this article....Maybe this trainer uses that cactus juice that is currently "being hawked" on the Info-mercials..No more inflammation.....

Shouldn't you be out pricing brand new ice machines?

I suppose that when his numbers come back to earth, people will think that his ice machine was unplugged.

Is "Ice" the street word for steroids?

Will an ice machine help my golf game?

I just bought one for the store last fall.
I still am a hack.

Marty Wolfson ought to get with JC Guerrero. Between his magic shoes and JCG's ice machine of youth, they couldn't be beat.

I've known Dick for probably ten years, and have not talked to him about this particular piece. I will say this - I think there is more to this article being written in this way than first meets the eye.

Whatever the reason I hope it was worth losing his credability over. Maybe not to you who knows him personally but he has certainly lost it to me and most likely most of the public.

I think perhaps Pat is saying the article was either sarcastic, or tongue in cheek.

Which does make some sense, if you read the article.

Either the writer is a complete moron, or his article is dripping with ironic sarcasm.

The story almost had to be written. But Jerardi is a legend to me, and getting the chance to work with him a few times over the years was a ton of fun. He's sarcastic, witty in a very dry sense, and his attitude towards many things could almost be called sardonic. Knowing THAT Jerardi, combined with this article, and putting his tones behind those words makes it even funnier to me.

If that is what he was saying then I agree but why didn't Pat simply state that the piece was probably satire?

Who really ever knows what goes on inside another persons head?

Scott Lake and Mark Shuman

Boy - there's two peas in a pod......

This article has to be tounge in cheek. No way does anyone who has been around the game for more than 10 racing days believe this trainer is legitimate.

It really is sad that scumbags like this trainer are allowed to completely fleece the other trainers and public on a daily basis and are brazen enough to act like they are just better than everyone else. I could care less overall but just once in my life I would love to see the FBI come down on someone like this. I can't think of someone more deserving of prison.

Sadly, I just don't think this crap hits the radar screen of those that can put bite into this issue. These trainers will be allowed to work their "ice magic" daily at the expense of other less fortunate or honest horseman.

After reading this again I have a hard time saying this article was written tongue in cheek. Please show me a single line that could be construed as such?

"He has a brand new ice machine. His horses stand in ice to soothe their legs."

Do you know Dick Jerardi, Chuck? Seriously - half of everything he says is tongue-in-cheek. This line above would be from someone who knows NOTHING about racing, writing about it. Jerardi knows how foolish this sounds when he writes it.

"This being the race track, there are more than a few theories."

" 'There is no miracle drug,' Guerrero assured. 'They test too much.' Whatever it is, Carlos Guerrero has figured it out. It is definitely his time."

Here's the bottom line - this (seems to me to be) an article to get all the public comment out there on Guerrero. Let the insinuations be what they are, and then get all Guerrero's comments on the record...and we'll see what happens in the future.

I think you are reading far too much into this. What is Guerrero supposed to say? Yeah I hop all of them? Jerardi basically offers up multiple defenses for the guy in a general news publication. What is he supposed to say about a new ice machine? That the grooms use it to keep the beer cold? Why offer up that he has examined all the guys horses records over the last 2 years and suggests that he believes what Guerrero tells him about claiming horses that formerly had 80 beyers? Why say that his style of running horses back isnt typical of trainers using illegal drugs? Why would you write in this style when it would be very easy to point out the dubious claims to your mostly uneducated readership?

;)

I've read Jerardi for years and generally think he's pretty sharp but this is an odd piece. Remember, he may be a tongue in cheek kind of guy to those who know him but he's writing this article not for "insiders" but for the general sports fan in a major newspaper.
It seems odd that he'd put him name on this if it were tongue in cheek, knowing that the huge bulk of his readership (including loyal racing fans and bettors) DON'T know that he's "that type." If I read Indian Charlie, I know what I'm getting but from Jerardi I expect straight dope.

:tro:

You got dope from Jerardi this time

Jerardi cast a vote for Guerrero in last years Eclipse award voting.

So said the spreadsheet someone posted of turf writers and who they voted for.

Maybe ice is Jamie Ness' secret.

A member of DT just completed a cursory examination of Guerreros barn a few minutes ago and was unable to locate the vaunted ice machine. I guess the machine that bears the magical ice is in a secret location?

Isnt Jerardi on the Parx payroll? He used to do that weekly show with Keith Jones recapping past weeks races and touting upcoming events.

Think I will have to flood the Daily News Live message box next time hes on.

His tongue and cheek must both be sore.

I believe he still does that show, and that show is a product of the Pennsylvania Thoroughbred Horsemen's Assoc., not Parx itself.

If you had the Magical Ice Machine - would you keep it out where any trainer or intruder could get his or her grubby little hands on it!?

Damn, Jerardi is right. Guerrero is so smart he has even been able to make the magic ice machine invisible.

Surprised he didnt just flip the minivan back over considering his magical powers

Interesting that he was 25 minutes away from the track at 6:45 considering he clocks everyone's horses every day? Maybe he has secret camera's hidden in the secret ice machine? He could have at least offered the victims a magical ice bath to heal their injuries.

:tro: LOLOL