Two Punch euthanized at 28
 

Maryland sire Two Punch euthanized at 28
By Glenye Cain Oakford

Two Punch, sire of champion Smoke Glacken and the elder statesman of Maryland’s Northview Stallion Station, was euthanized at the farm on Saturday due to the infirmities of old age. The Mr. Prospector horse was 28 and was advertised as standing this year at a private fee.

Two Punch was a foundation stallion for Northview, which opened in 1989, and was named Maryland’s stallion of the year three times, in 1994, 1995, and 1997. But he had success beyond the state’s borders as the sire of 1997 champion sprinter Smoke Glacken, Grade 1 winner Taking Risks, multiple graded winner Punch Line, track record-setter Ponche, and Grade 1-placed Willa On the Move.

Two Punch also sired 2011 stakes winner Bold Affair, winner of the Jostle Stakes this month, and Puerto Rico’s 2010 champion imported older mare, Gale in the Vale.

At his death, Two Punch had progeny earnings of $49,185,159. He also is building a legacy as a broodmare sire through the dams of Grade 1 winner Shine Again, 2011 Hutcheson Stakes winner Flashpoint, and millionaire and two-time steeplechase champion Good Night Shirt.

Modest record on the track (8/4-0-1...$89,795) but a wonderful sire. RIP big guy, you will be missed!

:( RIP Two Punch. Being from MD I've always been a big fan. God bless him.

Same here. He was the first foal out of champion Heavenly Cause, a full sister to the (in)famous Jacques Who.

What was infamous about him?

Same connections as Bounding Basque.

Earlier cut:


Later cut:


He looks like Dr. Rockett

I'm guessing the "infamous" part is him finishing 2nd all those times.

There is a horse at Presque Isle named Calculatting Jimmy - his record over the track is 19-1-12-0

The impossible thing about it is that he achieved that record running in all open claiming or alw races - it's not like he was a plodding maiden type where 'seconditis' horses are more common. Also, CJ is rarely a short price - he's typically in 5/1, 6/1. 8/1 - if you have been back-wheeling him in exactas - the ROI has to be insane.

When he ran this year - I picked him 2nd - and added a note for them to run underneath my picks saying basically 'in case of a scratch to my pick in Calculating Jimmy's race - please revise my selections and move my 3rd choice ahead of him'

Jacques was a pretty good mud and slop horse, as was Anything sired by Grey Dawn 11......

B/c everyone continues to wheel a horse in second race after race at a track where a 1o dollar exacta would ruin the whole pool. :eek:

Go offshore.

The money that is in the pools - sure isn't the sharpest money around.

Already had the annual $70+ top pick winner - without even trying to reach for prices.



http://www1.drf.com/drfPDFChartRaces...=20110607&RN=8

Nice to know your picks don't affect the prices there. Tough crowd there, huh?

Bunch of $5 bettors there who's legs start to shake when they think about betting something higher than 5/1.

Still, It's but one race from over a hundred this meet - I've had two 0-for-8 days so far.

Blasphemy. You should probably hang it up and take up playing golf with Phil.

I suck at golf. Can't drive, can't chip, can't putt and I get callouses on my hands.

Here was the form of that longshot winner:



What I liked about the horse was that it had a nice turf pedigree - yet never tried turf. Only ran twice at PID (or any other syn before) and was 3rd at 58/1 and 3rd at 120/1 odds in those two - both times racing against a strong bias - and most importantly both of those PID races in sprints.

It's four worst speed figures on the above form all came in the only four sprint tries showing - and now it was getting a chance to finally route on a surface it obviously loved. Drawn inside (which is huge in the routes here) and facing a sh!t field.

That's the kind of horse that wasn't paying no $76 to win a track with sharper players - but it still would have paid a lot I think.

Jesus, I wish I had the time to devote to this like you do.

Yes. It's a tough life.


Here is the summer cottage I bought with my gambling winnings from last years PID meet:




Oh, and his name is Davio - he's an Illegal Alien from Honderous who does all the yard work ... I tell people he's my brother just so they don't check his green card:




Here I am with my daughter - she was an accident. Her mom, Cameron Diaz, only likes it up the butt - but one time it was dark....:




Here I am swimming - had the pool installed with the money I made on the Tall Timbercowgirl race at PID. Gambling is a hard life - your skin becomes pale.

Other interesting facts about me:


I've also been known to dabble with training race horses. Little known fact - but - here I am in my older days with Silver Charm. People think Bob Baffert trained Silver Charm - wrong, it was me, Bob was just the program trainer:




I also ride in endurance races with Sheik Mohammed in Dubai when I have the spare time:





Finally - I also train champion fight dogs in my spare time. The one I'm holding below is Arnie "The Deadly 1/2 Delmation" Salvatore - he was the former heavyweight champion of Michael Vick's famed Bad News Kennels before the Feds took it down:

You had to encourage him GPK.


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Psst, Jay....what's with those queer ass roll down socks he has on in the last pic?:wf

You kinda look like that Ashton guy.

Back to reality now, there was a horse in the 80s in socal named Volanda that ran, I think, second, eight times in a row while still a maiden. She lost to some really nice fillies in that streak, including Reigning Countess (twice?), who later on set a track record at HP. While being trained by the awful Gary Jones.

Probably explains why you wanted to - and did - sleep on my bedroom floor.

Probably the only clean and DNA-free pair left.

Gary Jones was awful?

From the perspective of keeping horses sound and healthy, fukc yeah.

Was he really worse than any other notable trainer stabled in California?

Yes.

There might have been worse than him, I'll grant you that, but few trainers did so little with so much.

His handling of Apollo was Appolling.

Apollo's career was steered by owner and DRF pedigree expert Leon Rasmussen, who planned the mating that produced the pony-sized horse. Using dosage and whatever else, he was convinced the horse could get 10f. Apollo was always a mere sprinter and not even a top class one after he starting facing open company.

Not sure what extraordinary talents Gary Jones was in command of, but nearly all of his top horses were major winners as older horses. A lot of his horses were secondhand projects (failed Euros, Argentinia imports, etc) as well.

Apollo's breeding wasn't exactly that of a crack sprinter. By a son of Lyhpard that was out of a Sir Ivor mare, if I recall correctly.

That aside, I'm more than confident Jones wrecked, early on, what was going to be a magnificent horse.

And if you think his performance going two turns against Dinard and Best Pal wasn't awesome, I don't know what to say to you.

Jones, his strength, was with older imports that didn't have to survive his handling as a 2yo or early 3yo.

I was skeptical he retired, btw, due to health problems. Lot's of people with his 'condition' manage to work just fine, even in horse racing.

That much, I'll admit, is speculation on my part.

Falstaff had about 5 foals total before Apollo came along. Apollo's bottom side is nothing but sprinters and Falstaff's own dam, Ivorina, produced sprinter Ivory Mint, who in turn produced sprinter Malibu Mint.

How exactly? The colt broke its maiden in July, bucked shins, came back and won two 6f sprints by open lengths, then barely held on in a 7f Cal-bred stakes before his first defeat in the San Rafael at 8f. Then he got beat open lengths at 9f in the Jim Beam. Sounds like a sensible campaign heading towards the Derby. However, predictably (by Gary Jones no less), distance limitations set in.

He got away with a :23+ opening quarter that day and was able to hold off a comebacking Best Pal but not a streaking Dinard. Best Pal was a bit pea-hearted all spring anyways, ironically coming to hand in the summer and fall after being transfered to...you guess it...Gary Jones.

Not sure why this runner-up effort is the stuff of legend. It was a big try from an overachieving Cal-bred of modest origin. Nothing more than that. Came back down to the level hinted at by the Cal Breeder's Stakes soon afterwards.

Apollo made 23 lifetime starts. Its not like he disappeared after he got exposed at Turfway.

I wouldn't say nothing but sprinters in Apollo's bottom side, though it certainly leans that way. Then again, most of those are sired by speed/sprint sires.


Do you remember Apollo's debut? He had blistering works, including, if I recall correctly from 20 years ago, a 6f work around 110 flat, in the early to mid summer of his 2yo year. In his debut, he looks like he's going to win by 10, then pulls a Sunday Silence in the stretch, holds on to win in like 111 and change, and is laid up. After he came back, I think it was in the San Miguel several months later, a race he crushed them in, Jones was interviewed about Apollo. He said the reason he ran so erratically in the stretch is because even though he already had bucked shins, he really wanted to get a race into him.

I already thought he was a butcher, but wow man. It was only a matter of time before he unraveled Apollo.

Looking back on horses that debuted with Jones, you really will have a hard time finding promising horses that lasted. Turkoman? I think Reigning Countess maybe? For every Turkoman, there were many more Timebanks.

Thanks. As I said above, horses that he inherited typically fared much better than ones he started out with.

He never was the same after the Turfway race.

Apollo was FAST and should have had a much better career.

He also ran at a high profile circuit and Beyer used a cut from his '73 pps to lead off chapter 2 of Picking Winners.

King Palm had 9 consecutive 2nd place finishes before running 4th to Awesome Gem in his maiden win.

I can't remember the name of the California filly who ran 2nd an obscene number of times about 10 years ago.

The San Miguel was his 3rd race of his 2yo year. Essentially, all horses buck their shins to one degree or another. Certainly not a shocking turn of events for a fast working, early 2yo type and certainly not a malady isolated to the Gary Jones barn.

Obviously, he didn't do a very thorough job of ruining the colt. He ran until he was 6 years old and placed in multiple stakes (sprints of course) at age 5.

Again, who were these promising horses you speak of? Timebank was another breakneck speedball that no one would have kept going. Other than the odd Saron Stable or Allen Paulson horse, I'm not sure he had a steady supply of young horses to trash in the first place.

If Jones had a major fault compared to anyone else in CA it was that he loved to ship his good horses all over the place. He probably knocked more out criss-crossing the country back and forth than he did sending to early retirements.

Actually, as soon as he was back sprinting all he did was tie the world's record for 5.5f on the turf at Hollywood Park. Of course, once he had to start facing real sprinters he was further exposed from a class standpoint.

Again, blame the owners. Gary Jones never thought the horse was a Derby candidate. He was forced to run him in the San Rafael instead of $100 grander at Golden Gate. Ironically, its the performance you seem to champion most in the horse's career, yet fail to see it as the most likely point where he busted his gut.

Wow. If you can't see the difference between a 2yo that bucks it's shins and one that is run intentionally with bucked shins, than you are either hopeless or disingenuous.

So, let me get this straight. He starts off his career four for four, not all in state bred company, winds up 5 for 21, and that is just because he was running against open company? Yeah.

In his fifth start, and I don't care what you say, Best Pal was a very nice 3yo, and Dinard? He was a freak, and he gave Dinard all he could handle.


He had numerous two and early three year olds that went one or two starts and done, while showing much promise. I can think of a few, but the names elude me right now.

That's funny you say that. That's the one thing I respected about him, that he wasn't a ***** about shipping. I don't remember, however, him shipping his horses nearly as much as you are making that out to be.


As soon as he was back to sprinting? He routed twice! He didn't beat Forest Glow in that 'world record' race as an early season 3yo.

You also know as well as I do that the 5.5f turf world record was set about 72 times over that HP turf course in two years. Seeing as that was his only win past about January or so of his three year old season, I would not trump that as evidence that all was right with him.

As for your comment about him being exposed from a class standpoint, that's nonsense. One, the Apollo that won the San Miguel would have beaten most sprinters in the country that day, as a freaking 2yo. The Sanford winner was in the race, don't forget. Formal Dinner, I thought, was underrated, and certainly was no Cal bred.

Also, he was not running in top company at all the last couple of years. Unless you count GGF as top flight racing.


I'll concede that one to you. About the owners that is.

Ironically, you said he had his own way in the San Rafael, so I'm not really sure how he busted his gut.

I just found this old Bill Christine article. You might enjoy it.

He actually was a pretty good writer, looking back.

http://articles.latimes.com/1990-12-..._1_santa-anita

Spare me. Neither one of us knew the physical condition of the horse before any of its races. Jones was quoted as saying that he had a nagging shin issue that kept him from training the horse as strongly as he wanted. Some horses have to be "babied" to be able to run. Apollo was able to start 10 times that year following this ghastly deed of running (and winning by open lengths) the colt off a 5 month layoff.

Yeah, is right. Wow, an early sprinting, state-bred 2yo that didn't train on? Read the f'n PPs. He went from Cal-bred 2yo stakes company to open, Graded company in a year that had Hansel, Dinard, Best Pal, Sea Cadet, Olympio, etc. and couldn't handle it. Then had to face older horses once he was a confirmed sprinter the rest of the year.

It's called not progressing with the rest of his crop.

This is the real story behind this. You're obsession Dinard. Ironic, of course, because talk about about a butcher job. You really like those quasi-unbeaten cripples that "would have been the best of all time if they could string two races together" types. Olympio gave Dinard all he could handle, too, in his start before the San Rafael. That CA crop had a ton of freaks that year, apparently.

I guess if Apollo just retired after the San Miguel or the San Rafael with a 4- for-4 or 4-for-5 record, he'd be someone's screenname.

DrugS had a great post on her last year where he showed the pps of some horse's first 5 starts and you'd have thought it was the Second Coming. Then he put up the rest of his record. It was Jolie's Halo.

Sometimes that don't pan out by no fault of the trainer.

Yep. I figured as much.

Turkoman, By Land By Sea, Lakeway, Stalwars, Quiet American, Timebank, Good Command, Best Pal, Kostroma.

He made his return to sprints on opening day at the Hollywood meet, got buried when he had to show some real sprint speed vs. quality foes. Later that meet he tied the world record in an allowance on the grass.

Yeah, I guess you're right. It was broken by Pembroke, Classy Women, ie other stakes horses. Never mind that over the same course later that year he split the great Arizonian Answer Do and subsequent BC Sprint winner Cardmania.

But if you want to use his world record performance as evidence that he was a shell of his former self, whatever.

Great. Formal Dinner. What was he making, like his 15th start of the year in the San Miguel? Typical Lukas squeezing one more out. He also ran Tejano off a Hollywood Futurity win in the San Miguel. Formal Dinner was never more than Grade 3 calibur.

Next.

He was 5 and 6 at that point. He never won a graded stakes, so why would he be running against top class horses? He was running at the ceiling he hit way back in his 4th start.

I don't think he busted his gut, but you seem to think Jones derailed his career somehow. That would be the most likely race (against the best competition he ever faced and the best effort he ever put up). At any rate, Best Pal, IIRC, hounded him with an early bid down the backstretch. Having to face pressure from a real Grade 1 horse is no cakewalk.