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randallscott35 06-16-2011 09:13 AM

Goodbye Weiner
 
We hardly knew you. Sad that you couldn't resign immediately and chose to lie.

dellinger63 06-16-2011 09:34 AM

Noooooo we need you. ;)

As I said before what you did compared to what Bill Clinton did is like a fart compared to shiating your pants. Grow some Hillary balls and stand up to these hypocrites, your supposed friends!

somerfrost 06-16-2011 11:02 AM

Best for all involved, one less freak in the Washington sideshow.

Riot 06-16-2011 11:57 AM

I'll bet he runs in the special election for his district, and wins.

timmgirvan 06-16-2011 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 784970)
Best for all involved, one less freak in the Washington sideshow.

:tro::eek::D

Patrick333 06-16-2011 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 784970)
Best for all involved, one less freak in the Washington sideshow.

Agreed.

Riot 06-16-2011 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 784950)
Noooooo we need you. ;)

As I said before what you did compared to what Bill Clinton did is like a fart compared to shiating your pants. Grow some Hillary balls and stand up to these hypocrites, your supposed friends!

How is it compared to you thoughts on Senator Vitter? Or Senator Ensign?

Not justifying what Weiner did - it was the blatant, repetitive lying that was so disturbing to me - but comparing a non-law-breaking sexual scandal to lawbreaking sexual scandals for the hypocrisy factor is sometimes a good reflective thing.

Antitrust32 06-16-2011 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 784970)
Best for all involved, one less freak in the Washington sideshow.

yep, only 500 plus to go

SCUDSBROTHER 06-16-2011 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 784994)
I'll bet he runs in the special election for his district, and wins.

That would be fine, but he needs some punishment for the week-long video -taped lie festival.

OldDog 06-17-2011 07:49 AM

It was over when he lost Ginger Lee . . .

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive.../06/029255.php

dellinger63 06-17-2011 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 785041)
How is it compared to you thoughts on Senator Vitter? Or Senator Ensign?

Not justifying what Weiner did - it was the blatant, repetitive lying that was so disturbing to me - but comparing a non-law-breaking sexual scandal to lawbreaking sexual scandals for the hypocrisy factor is sometimes a good reflective thing.

I said all along Weiner should have stayed. It wasn't Repubs that drove him out of office but Dems like Pelosi, and Schultz, the same who had Clinton's back.

BTW Clinton lied under oath and that is what sets him apart.

Trying to blame Reps for Weiner leaving is almost as bad as you blaming the House Leader for not calling out Obama after 15 days in Lybia ignoring the fact that Obama's main arguement is we are fighting under the NATO flag so it doesn't count. That is far more alarming to me than Clinton lying about a BJ but fully expected. Just like him sending the Paki's big money while declining Jasper MO residents. His love of all things Muslim comes out loud and clear. :zz:

clyde 06-17-2011 08:09 AM

Watched about 30 seconds of the video...can't stand Alred trying to act like a man.


And GingerSnap acts like she just hatched from the shell;as if she has never seen a pud.

The iambic irony and amateurish acting is enough to make me vomit.

Riot 06-18-2011 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 785126)
I said all along Weiner should have stayed. It wasn't Repubs that drove him out of office but Dems like Pelosi, and Schultz, the same who had Clinton's back.

BTW Clinton lied under oath and that is what sets him apart.

Trying to blame Reps for Weiner leaving is almost as bad as you blaming the House Leader for not calling out Obama after 15 days in Lybia ignoring the fact that Obama's main arguement is we are fighting under the NATO flag so it doesn't count. That is far more alarming to me than Clinton lying about a BJ but fully expected. Just like him sending the Paki's big money while declining Jasper MO residents. His love of all things Muslim comes out loud and clear. :zz:

That is a nice soliloquy, going off in your usual crazy tangents and untrue assumptions about other posters, but the question you were trying to answer was:

"How is it compared to you thoughts on Senator Vitter? Or Senator Ensign?" How do you feel comparing law-breaking to non-law breaking "scandals".

dellinger63 06-19-2011 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 785488)
That is a nice soliloquy, going off in your usual crazy tangents and untrue assumptions about other posters, but the question you were trying to answer was:

"How is it compared to you thoughts on Senator Vitter? Or Senator Ensign?" How do you feel comparing law-breaking to non-law breaking "scandals".

As I said before, agreeing with you, it doesn't compare, Weiner to Vitter, Ensign that is. Weiner should not have resigned but had some balls and stood up to his own party. Heck even the hardcore dem DTer's turned on him.

However I still consider lying under oath far more serious than visiting a prostitute. Clinton to Vitter, Ensign.

BTW At least John Edwards' wife RIP had enough pride and self-worth to leave him, something the rest of the DC wives seemingly lack.

somerfrost 06-19-2011 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 785603)
As I said before, agreeing with you, it doesn't compare, Weiner to Vitter, Ensign that is. Weiner should not have resigned but had some balls and stood up to his own party. Heck even the hardcore dem DTer's turned on him.

However I still consider lying under oath far more serious than visiting a prostitute. Clinton to Vitter, Ensign.

BTW At least John Edwards' wife RIP had enough pride and self-worth to leave him, something the rest of the DC wives seemingly lack.

Never put yourself in the position of judging a wife's actions in matters such as this...everyone is different as is every marriage. It was Hillary's choice and she made it, she deserves respect for going through the public pain not cheap shots from a Democrat hater such as yourself! Pray you never find yourself in such a position and keep your hate-filled mouth shut about matters you can't possibly understand!

dellinger63 06-19-2011 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 785605)
Never put yourself in the position of judging a wife's actions in matters such as this...everyone is different as is every marriage. It was Hillary's choice and she made it, she deserves respect for going through the public pain not cheap shots from a Democrat hater such as yourself! Pray you never find yourself in such a position and keep your hate-filled mouth shut about matters you can't possibly understand!

Give me a break Hillary said she was not a 'stand by your man' kind of woman. Bashed the poor victims of her husband and then showed it was all BS as she proved to be the woman she was accusing them (Paula Jones & Co) of being.

BTW I'll post what I want just as your broke a$$ will.

somerfrost 06-19-2011 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 785607)
Give me a break Hillary said she was not a 'stand by your man' kind of woman. Bashed the poor victims of her husband and then showed it was all BS as she proved to be the woman she was accusing them (Paula Jones & Co) of being.

BTW I'll post what I want just as your broke a$$ will.

Again, you are posting about something you have no idea about...only Hillary knows why she decided as she did. Your pathetic hatred of all things liberal is manifested almost daily by your postings from mostly right-wing web sites of anything anti liberal/Democratic, that's fine....everyone understands your obsession but don't pretend to be a mind reader and publicly take cheap shots at folks making private decisions.

Riot 06-19-2011 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 785614)
Again, you are posting about something you have no idea about...only Hillary knows why she decided as she did. Your pathetic hatred of all things liberal is manifested almost daily by your postings from mostly right-wing web sites of anything anti liberal/Democratic, that's fine....everyone understands your obsession but don't pretend to be a mind reader and publicly take cheap shots at folks making private decisions.

It's part of a strong Libertarian viewpoint, to be completely intolerant of, and overly concerned with, the independence and differences inherent within other people ...

... or not Libertarian in the least.

BTW, "liberals" and "libertarians" have alot in common.

Quote:

Libertarian Platform 2010

As Libertarians, we seek a world of liberty; a world in which all individuals are sovereign over their own lives and no one is forced to sacrifice his or her values for the benefit of others.

We believe that respect for individual rights is the essential precondition for a free and prosperous world, that force and fraud must be banished from human relationships, and that only through freedom can peace and prosperity be realized.

Consequently, we defend each person's right to engage in any activity that is peaceful and honest, and welcome the diversity that freedom brings. The world we seek to build is one where individuals are free to follow their own dreams in their own ways, without interference from government or any authoritarian power.

dellinger63 06-19-2011 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 785652)
It's part of a strong Libertarian viewpoint, to be completely intolerant of, and overly concerned with, the independence and differences inherent within other people ...

... or not Libertarian in the least.

BTW, "liberals" and "libertarians" have alot in common.

With independence there is no need for tolerence. It would be inherented. Everyone would be independent and equal. What America is supposed to be.

Somer and ur bad knee be damned.:p

somerfrost 06-20-2011 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 785764)
With independence there is no need for tolerence. It would be inherented. Everyone would be independent and equal. What America is supposed to be.

Somer and ur bad knee be damned.:p

Independence by no means guarantees tolerance, they are completely separate concepts...just because one is "free" does not mean he/she is tolerant of the rights of others.

Coach Pants 06-20-2011 12:59 PM

I am intolerant of the direction of this thread. I need government intervention to prevent me from calling you a stupid f.uck.

somerfrost 06-20-2011 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 785832)
I am intolerant of the direction of this thread. I need government intervention to prevent me from calling you a stupid f.uck.

Naw, you are independent and free to call me anything you want.

dellinger63 06-20-2011 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 785830)
Independence by no means guarantees tolerance, they are completely separate concepts...just because one is "free" does not mean he/she is tolerant of the rights of others.

And pointing out hypocrisy, as in the case with 'I'm not a stand by your man' Hillary Clinton does not make one intolerant. Neither does not wanting to support you and subsidizing insurance policies.

clyde 06-20-2011 04:20 PM

Any Free Carpenters in here?

Riot 06-20-2011 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 785764)
With independence there is no need for tolerence. It would be inherented. Everyone would be independent and equal. What America is supposed to be.

Somer and ur bad knee be damned.:p

There's just this mishmosh of words flowing around crazy inside your head, isn't there?

dellinger63 06-20-2011 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 785867)
There's just this mishmosh of words flowing around crazy inside your head, isn't there?

Not really, just a bit of common sense.

Like understanding spending will never ever get one out of bankruptcy. :zz:

Riot 06-20-2011 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 785871)
Not really, just a bit of common sense.

Like understanding spending will never ever get one out of bankruptcy. :zz:

You mean common sense like knowing that in America each citzen is already independent and equal? Or common sense that spending isn't to get one "out of bankruptcy", it's to get one out of "recession", which are two entirely different things?

dellinger63 06-21-2011 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 785916)
You mean common sense like knowing that in America each citzen is already independent and equal? Or common sense that spending isn't to get one "out of bankruptcy", it's to get one out of "recession", which are two entirely different things?

Sorry I didn't come up with the statement, Biden did!!!!

And if each citizen is already indepedent and equal why the need to subsidize health insurance?

Riot 06-21-2011 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 785939)
Sorry I didn't come up with the statement, Biden did!!!!

And if each citizen is already indepedent and equal why the need to subsidize health insurance?

Precisely because people are equal. You think about that for a while. You might be able to figure it out.

Maybe.

Meanwhile, make a list of every luxury you enjoy simply because society in the form of government banding together to benefit all of us is what we do as Americans.

Start with affordable potable water.

Danzig 06-21-2011 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 785998)
Precisely because people are equal. You think about that for a while. You might be able to figure it out.

Maybe.

Meanwhile, make a list of every luxury you enjoy simply because society in the form of government banding together to benefit all of us is what we do as Americans.

Start with affordable potable water.


i have a well. i don't know that i have that because of society.


water's a luxury??

Riot 06-21-2011 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 786059)
i have a well. i don't know that i have that because of society.


water's a luxury??

Potable, constantly available water coming out of a tap is indeed a luxury in my book, not possessed by most in the world. And for most (not on wells, obviously) it is arriving due to citizens empowering the government.

Does your well-water catch fire?

Danzig 06-21-2011 06:51 PM

why the hell would my well catch fire?

dellinger63 06-21-2011 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 786063)
why the hell would my well catch fire?

Because she read about it! :wf

Riot 06-21-2011 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 786063)
why the hell would my well catch fire?

Fracking.

My point is simply that getting all government out of our lives is going to make for shorter, more difficult, more hazardous lives. Government does do some very good things on our behalf.

It's interesting to listen to Ron Paul - he's very consistent in his thoughts, he's had years to reflect and hone them. However, listening to the son, Rand - well, although Rand thinks he's libertarian, and a strict anti-governmentalist, he's far more scattered than his father, even theocratic, even dictatorial, and remarkably inconsistent in his "anti-government" stance. The son is very reflective of alot of what I hear people espouse nowadays. Idealogic without much understanding.

dellinger63 06-21-2011 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 786076)
Fracking..

You realize that was fixed, like a movie. Funny you consider potable water a luxury but full-healthcare a right.

If in the course of administering healthcare they provide potable water is the care still a right or now a luxury?????:zz::zz:

Riot 06-22-2011 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 786087)
You realize that was fixed, like a movie.

Do you realize that was not? Again: you, facts = oil, water

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Funny you consider potable water a luxury but full-healthcare a right.
Wow. You really are not able to understand things in anything other than a superficial, simplistic, literal read, are you?

Let me speak on your terms: I would consider potable, cholera-free and drinkable fresh water a "right", too - with "right" meaning, not what you think (someone freeloading off you, as you are a constant, unchanging victim), but what a moral, rich, first-world country of course provides to all it's citizens.

dellinger63 06-22-2011 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 786120)
Do you realize that was not? Again: you, facts = oil, water.

And once again you're the duped SUCKER!

http://ncwatch.typepad.com/media/201...asland.html#tp

Coach Pants 06-22-2011 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 786087)
You realize that was fixed, like a movie. Funny you consider potable water a luxury but full-healthcare a right.

If in the course of administering healthcare they provide potable water is the care still a right or now a luxury?????:zz::zz:

All natural gas wells ruin the water table. The water table goes deep in the earth!

Pardon me, I've got an appointment for a rub and tug at the airport. For freedom!

Riot 06-22-2011 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 786155)
And once again you're the duped SUCKER!

:zz: I am not talking about the movie "Gasland". Geeshus effing cripes, you're stupid.


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