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randallscott35 05-31-2011 11:40 AM

How's That Recovery Comin?
 
Duh.

House prices find lower lows.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...425058088.html

Food stamp usage at all time highs.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau...d%20Stamps.png

That's ok though. Obama likes Guinness. And the Bachelorette is on Mondays so we'll be ok. Hugs.:$:

Antitrust32 05-31-2011 12:39 PM

dont you understand that George Bush singlehandidly ruined the world and Obama has almost completely fixed it?

somerfrost 05-31-2011 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 780481)
dont you understand that George Bush singlehandidly ruined the world and Obama has almost completely fixed it?

Do you understand that no single President is completely to blame and no single President is totally without fault? My problem with the "Obama hate" is that folks seem to think everything was fine until Obama took office. Feel lucky that you are locked into a political ideology that has a say in government, being a far leftist, all I get to do is sit and watch.

Antitrust32 05-31-2011 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 780489)
Do you understand that no single President is completely to blame and no single President is totally without fault? My problem with the "Obama hate" is that folks seem to think everything was fine until Obama took office. Feel lucky that you are locked into a political ideology that has a say in government, being a far leftist, all I get to do is sit and watch.

I'm probably less locked into any certain political ideology than anyone who posts in this whole section.

But I have pretty easily come to the conclusion that Obama is just 4 more years of GW Bush.

and besides, the number one reason the economy collapsed is because the American people lived way outside their means. But nobody wants to take any personal responsibility, so it was Bushes fault.

Its not the person who bought a 400k house and could only afford a 150k house fault, its the bank's fault for providing the loan :zz:

Zero personal responsibility in this overly spoiled country that I love.

Riot 05-31-2011 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 780498)
and besides, the number one reason the economy collapsed is because the American people lived way outside their means. But nobody wants to take any personal responsibility, so it was Bushes fault.

You might enjoy this book, you can get it for 10 bucks paperback on Amazon

Too Big to Fail: The Inside Story of How Wall Street and Washington Fought to Save the Financial System---and Themselves
Andrew Ross Sorkin

randallscott35 05-31-2011 01:24 PM

No, but maybe continuing the failed policies of Bush and keeping people in positions of power and hiring an inept Eric Holder who has prosecuted no one and so on and so on should count for something....B/c of the importance of the times we live in, I can only say Obama is the single worst president in our history.

Riot 05-31-2011 01:30 PM

Here's an interactive map, from Moody Analytics, documenting the economic and recovery status of each state, and each major town with statistics

Shows the recovery is slow, but definitely doing well and improving.

Recovery Status Map - Tracking the business cycle across U.S. states and metropolitan areas.

http://www.economy.com/dismal/us-map/default.aspx

Having food stamps use high, when unemployment is high, isn't any great surprise. It shows we're helping people and keeping them from starving. That's a good thing. Not a bad thing.

randallscott35 05-31-2011 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 780507)
Here's an interactive map, from Moody Analytics, documenting the economic and recovery status of each state, and each major town with statistics

Shows the recovery is slow, but definitely doing well and improving.

Recovery Status Map - Tracking the business cycle across U.S. states and metropolitan areas.

http://www.economy.com/dismal/us-map/default.aspx

You are on crack.

Riot 05-31-2011 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 780508)
You are on crack.

No, I just posted an ongoing detailed analysis of where a major financial outlet puts the nation regarding recession and recovery.

"Single worse President in history" - yeah, that's a logically-arrived upon conclusion. Who's on crack?

miraja2 05-31-2011 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 780505)
B/c of the importance of the times we live in, I can only say Obama is the single worst president in our history.

I like the way that this post implies that you actually know something about about all the other presidents and at some point you decided....yep, Obama is now worse than James Buchanan or John Tyler, or Andrew Johnson....or whichever president you had last on your list before.
You don't like the guy. Fine. But this "worst president in our history" stuff is just nonsense. You are comparing him to people that I feel confident in guessing you don't know the first thing about.
Its not just you either. There are polls like this all the time and I always think they are stupid. Does comparing the John Adams administration to the Gerald Ford administration really make any sense whatsoever? There's no reasonable way to do it....or really a very good reason to do it.

GBBob 05-31-2011 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 780553)
I like the way that this post implies that you actually know something about about all the other presidents and at some point you decided....yep, Obama is now worse than James Buchanan or John Tyler, or Andrew Johnson....or whichever president you had last on your list before.
You don't like the guy. Fine. But this "worst president in our history" stuff is just nonsense. You are comparing him to people that I feel confident in guessing you don't know the first thing about.
Its not just you either. There are polls like this all the time and I always think they are stupid. Does comparing the John Adams administration to the Gerald Ford administration really make any sense whatsoever? There's no reasonable way to do it....or really a very good reason to do it.

There will be a lot of silence after that post..

It takes a while to find a Washington Times editorial on John Tyler

Danzig 05-31-2011 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 780553)
I like the way that this post implies that you actually know something about about all the other presidents and at some point you decided....yep, Obama is now worse than James Buchanan or John Tyler, or Andrew Johnson....or whichever president you had last on your list before.
You don't like the guy. Fine. But this "worst president in our history" stuff is just nonsense. You are comparing him to people that I feel confident in guessing you don't know the first thing about.
Its not just you either. There are polls like this all the time and I always think they are stupid. Does comparing the John Adams administration to the Gerald Ford administration really make any sense whatsoever? There's no reasonable way to do it....or really a very good reason to do it.

andrew johnson was pretty bad, more recently i'd have to say carter. buchanan was a pathetic joke. then there's polk, who was suckered by santa anna in exile, helped him come back to mexico-which lead to the mexican/american war...

hi_im_god 05-31-2011 06:22 PM

harrison would be difficult to rank. maybe you need a seperate list of best and worst first 30 days of a presidency. that would be the only fair way to judge his month in office against the other's.

Danzig 05-31-2011 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 780585)
harrison would be difficult to rank. maybe you need a seperate list of best and worst first 30 days of a presidency. that would be the only fair way to judge his month in office against the other's.


:tro:

he wouldn't be on a worst list for sure...he didn't have enough time to really screw anything up.

randallscott35 05-31-2011 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 780553)
I like the way that this post implies that you actually know something about about all the other presidents and at some point you decided....yep, Obama is now worse than James Buchanan or John Tyler, or Andrew Johnson....or whichever president you had last on your list before.
You don't like the guy. Fine. But this "worst president in our history" stuff is just nonsense. You are comparing him to people that I feel confident in guessing you don't know the first thing about.
Its not just you either. There are polls like this all the time and I always think they are stupid. Does comparing the John Adams administration to the Gerald Ford administration really make any sense whatsoever? There's no reasonable way to do it....or really a very good reason to do it.

Apparently you don't have a clue what I do for a living. Yes, we've had plenty of criminals who were presidents. Again, what you miss is the current importance of the time we live in.

randallscott35 05-31-2011 06:42 PM

I didn't mean to get off topic. Let's get back to that rip roaring recovery we are having. The first is tomorrow so Wal Mart will be hopping at 12:01am when the Food stamp cards get their monthly limit.

GBBob 05-31-2011 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 780587)
Apparently you don't have a clue what I do for a living. Yes, we've had plenty of criminals who were presidents. Again, what you miss is the current importance of the time we live in.

And you obviously have no idea what Miraja2 does for a living. This time period is a pimple on the ass of our past.

randallscott35 05-31-2011 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 780591)
And you obviously have no idea what Miraja2 does for a living. This time period is a pimple on the ass of our past.

We'll see about that.

herkhorse 05-31-2011 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 780587)
Apparently you don't have a clue what I do for a living.

No, but we do know you're a p.ussy

randallscott35 05-31-2011 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herkhorse (Post 780602)
No, but we do know you're a p.ussy

And I get banned? Jeez

herkhorse 05-31-2011 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 780603)
And I get banned? Jeez

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42448

relax, it was a joke

Coach Pants 05-31-2011 07:51 PM

Too Big To Fail sucked multiple as.sholes.

Check out Inside Job. It's not perfect but at least they don't try and make you feel sorry for Paulson and company.

Coach Pants 05-31-2011 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 780553)
I like the way that this post implies that you actually know something about about all the other presidents and at some point you decided....yep, Obama is now worse than James Buchanan or John Tyler, or Andrew Johnson....or whichever president you had last on your list before.
You don't like the guy. Fine. But this "worst president in our history" stuff is just nonsense. You are comparing him to people that I feel confident in guessing you don't know the first thing about.
Its not just you either. There are polls like this all the time and I always think they are stupid. Does comparing the John Adams administration to the Gerald Ford administration really make any sense whatsoever? There's no reasonable way to do it....or really a very good reason to do it.

He's in the running for worst president. Deal with it.

clyde 05-31-2011 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 780603)
And I get banned? Jeez

I hope for your sake banned is a girl.


Hold off on the sage until you are shore.

randallscott35 05-31-2011 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 780614)
I hope for your sake banned is a girl.


Hold off on the sage until you are shore.

when i see sake i swear i see sake the japanese drink.

miraja2 05-31-2011 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 780583)
andrew johnson was pretty bad, more recently i'd have to say carter. buchanan was a pathetic joke. then there's polk, who was suckered by santa anna in exile, helped him come back to mexico-which lead to the mexican/american war...

Yeah but he wasn't president during "important times" like Obama.
:zz:

Coach Pants 06-01-2011 11:30 AM

Well the market is off. Of course it's fantasy land on Wall St. so I'm sure it'll be back up by Friday.

The writing is on the wall. Not even close to adding 150,000 jobs a month.

He can always take a day off from golfing and hit the teleprompter up to remind people Bush did it. Which is loser speak for "I ain't gone do s.hit, cuz. Bush done f.ucked it all up."

randallscott35 06-01-2011 11:36 AM

Oops. I'm sure they will find a nice birth/death number to help the McJobs number for Friday. I looked at Job ads for fun last weekend. Couldn't believe how little is available and just how many are borderline Subway wages. There is 0 recovery as in none.

Coach Pants 06-01-2011 11:42 AM

We've got a 21st century Caligula in charge.

You have to be insane to campaign on promises of change and then golf every other week on average.

He is a con artist.

randallscott35 06-01-2011 11:48 AM

From CNBC or CNBS no less.

"What we’ve got right now is almost near panic going on with money managers and people who are responsible for money," he said. "They can not find a yield and you just don’t want to be putting your money into commodities or things that are punts that might work out or they might not depending on what happens with the economy.

"We need to find real yield and real returns on these assets. You see bad data, you see Treasurys rally, you see all bonds and all fixed-income rally and then the people who are betting against the U.S. economy start getting bearish on stocks. That’s a huge mistake."

Stocks extended losses after the manufacturing fell below expectations in May and the private sector added only 38,000 jobs during the month.

"Interest rates are amazingly low and that, thanks to Ben Bernanke, is driving everything," Yastrow said. "We’re on the verge of a great, great depression. The [Federal Reserve] knows it.

No sh.it you as.sholes

Coach Pants 06-01-2011 11:52 AM

Yeah but he also says to keep stocks because of the dividends.


It's f.ucking madness.

randallscott35 06-01-2011 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 780680)
Yeah but he also says to keep stocks because of the dividends.


It's f.ucking madness.

Chase chase chase. I love it. Keep betting Mine That Bird. He will win again. he has to. But he has Borel. But...

Coach Pants 06-01-2011 11:54 AM

:tro::tro::tro:
Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 780681)
Chase chase chase. I love it. Keep betting Mine That Bird. He will win again. he has to. But he Borel. But...


wiphan 06-01-2011 01:36 PM

QE 3?

randallscott35 06-01-2011 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 780697)
QE 3?

Enjoy 200 dollar oil and 30 dollar hamburgers and....wait for it, no jobs.

Good plans

slotdirt 06-01-2011 02:12 PM

I'm confused. What list of worst presidents doesn't include Warren Harding at the top?

Coach Pants 06-01-2011 06:15 PM

This is definitely a libtard board. If this s.hit was happening with a Republican president the thread would be 5 pages by now.

ateamstupid 06-01-2011 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 780498)
I'm probably less locked into any certain political ideology than anyone who posts in this whole section.

But I have pretty easily come to the conclusion that Obama is just 4 more years of GW Bush.

and besides, the number one reason the economy collapsed is because the American people lived way outside their means. But nobody wants to take any personal responsibility, so it was Bushes fault.

Its not the person who bought a 400k house and could only afford a 150k house fault, its the bank's fault for providing the loan :zz:

Zero personal responsibility in this overly spoiled country that I love.

I really can't believe that there are still people who buy this bullshit. I'm guessing you also believe oil prices are high because of SUVs, right?

clyde 06-01-2011 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 780699)
Enjoy 200 dollar oil and 30 dollar hamburgers and....wait for it, no jobs.

Good plans

The riots are now put off until before July now?

Rileyoriley 06-01-2011 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clyde (Post 780763)
The riots are now put off until before July now?

Perhaps we could riot with The Belmonts at the Belmont?


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