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timmgirvan 05-30-2011 01:50 PM

Tressel got screwed
 
Since the '60's have always hated OSU and Notre Dame.

But I think its a crime for this coach(and some others) to be held to a higher standard than their bosses. WTF?....Some silly-ass players get a tattoo...BFD

I know the OSU hater will come outta the walls but I think it was CS for them not to stand by him

Dahoss 05-30-2011 02:05 PM

He lied though. Isn't that a sin?

timmgirvan 05-30-2011 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 780229)
He lied though. Isn't that a sin?

I'm not his Creator. In this day and age....just seems a large overstep by OSU

Dahoss 05-30-2011 02:48 PM

He resigned though. You're making it out like he got fired.

Thanks for reminding me you aren't his creator. I get that confused sometimes.

horseofcourse 05-30-2011 02:49 PM

There was a bit more to it than tattoos. That issue is a whole other issue that is stupid beyond belief. He's a state of Ohio employee who made multiple millions of dollars while at OSU. I have zero sympathy for him. It's meaningless. Football will go on at OSU. That's division 1 football in America. Pretty much all of them cheat (head coaches). He lied and cheated and it went too far. Big deal. He was dirty ay Youngstown State and was dirty at Ohio State. His coaching brethren will all come to defend and feel sorry for him and the cycle will continue. He was a great actor as was Holtz presenting their image which is all phony beyond comprehension. I'm glad to see it in all honesty. This needs to happen to more of these coaches.

(and seriously, a guy who got as rich as he did as an employee of the state is so far from being "screwed" it is laughable that anyone can even make that statement. No Jim Tressel made out like a bandit.)

timmgirvan 05-30-2011 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse (Post 780241)
There was a bit more to it than tattoos. That issue is a whole other issue that is stupid beyond belief. He's a state of Ohio employee who made multiple millions of dollars while at OSU. I have zero sympathy for him. It's meaningless. Football will go on at OSU. That's division 1 football in America. Pretty much all of them cheat (head coaches). He lied and cheated and it went too far. Big deal. He was dirty ay Youngstown State and was dirty at Ohio State. His coaching brethren will all come to defend and feel sorry for him and the cycle will continue. He was a great actor as was Holtz presenting their image which is all phony beyond comprehension. I'm glad to see it in all honesty. This needs to happen to more of these coaches.

I yield to your knowledge of the situation....really dont know his history

satan's twin 05-30-2011 02:56 PM

The Bucks will move on to Urban Meyer in 2012 after his year off so he will have the dream job he has always said he wanted.

horseofcourse 05-30-2011 03:04 PM

1. Nick Saban, Alabama: $5,166,666 (9-3)
2. Mack Brown, Texas: $5,100,000 (5-7)
3. Bob Stoops, Oklahoma: $4,275,000 (11-2)
4. Urban Meyer, Florida: $4,010,00 (7-5)
5. Kirk Ferentz, Iowa: $3,775,000 (7-5)
6. Les Miles, LSU: $3,751,000 (10-2)
7. Jim Tressel, Ohio State: $3,512,000 (11-1)
8. Jim Grobe, Wake Forest: $2,939,475 (3-9)
9. Mark Richt, Georgia: $2,811,340 (6-6)
10. Bobby Petrino, Arkansas: $2,700,000 (10-2)
11. Gary Pinkel, Missouri: $2,550,000 (10-2)
12. Rich Rodriguez, Michigan: $2,515,180 (7-5)
13. Houston Nutt, Ole Miss: $2,500,000 (4-8)
14. Chip Kelly, Oregon: $2,400,000 (12-0)
15. Paul Johnson, Georgia Tech: $2,300,000 (6-6)
16. Jeff Tedford, Cal: $2,300,000 (5-7)
17. June Jones, SMU: $2,142,056 (7-6)
18. Derek Dooley, Tennessee: $2,118,391 (6-6)
T-19. Gene Chizik, Auburn: $2,100,000 (13-0)
T-19. Turner Gill, Kansas: $2,100,000 (3-9)
T-19. Bo Pelini, Nebraska: $2,100,000 (10-3)
22. Frank Beamer, Virginia Tech: $2,043,000 (11-2)
23. Ralph Friedgen, Maryland: $2,036,306 (8-4)
24. Steve Spurrier, South Carolina: $2,000,000 (9-4)

Here's how much screwing Jimmy got in 2010.

timmgirvan 05-30-2011 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse (Post 780248)
1. Nick Saban, Alabama: $5,166,666 (9-3)
2. Mack Brown, Texas: $5,100,000 (5-7)
3. Bob Stoops, Oklahoma: $4,275,000 (11-2)
4. Urban Meyer, Florida: $4,010,00 (7-5)
5. Kirk Ferentz, Iowa: $3,775,000 (7-5)
6. Les Miles, LSU: $3,751,000 (10-2)
7. Jim Tressel, Ohio State: $3,512,000 (11-1)
8. Jim Grobe, Wake Forest: $2,939,475 (3-9)
9. Mark Richt, Georgia: $2,811,340 (6-6)
10. Bobby Petrino, Arkansas: $2,700,000 (10-2)
11. Gary Pinkel, Missouri: $2,550,000 (10-2)
12. Rich Rodriguez, Michigan: $2,515,180 (7-5)
13. Houston Nutt, Ole Miss: $2,500,000 (4-8)
14. Chip Kelly, Oregon: $2,400,000 (12-0)
15. Paul Johnson, Georgia Tech: $2,300,000 (6-6)
16. Jeff Tedford, Cal: $2,300,000 (5-7)
17. June Jones, SMU: $2,142,056 (7-6)
18. Derek Dooley, Tennessee: $2,118,391 (6-6)
T-19. Gene Chizik, Auburn: $2,100,000 (13-0)
T-19. Turner Gill, Kansas: $2,100,000 (3-9)
T-19. Bo Pelini, Nebraska: $2,100,000 (10-3)
22. Frank Beamer, Virginia Tech: $2,043,000 (11-2)
23. Ralph Friedgen, Maryland: $2,036,306 (8-4)
24. Steve Spurrier, South Carolina: $2,000,000 (9-4)

Here's how much screwing Jimmy got in 2010.

...it's all relative

knickslions2 05-31-2011 10:36 AM

This is just the beginning. Lots are going to fall. This program is as dirty as they come.

clyde 05-31-2011 10:39 AM

You dumb fucl<er.



Another jealous hater who has to come up with a fractured excuse to explain away Ohio State's legendary record.

Only Nick's Kumquats.

randallscott35 05-31-2011 10:49 AM

He did worse than lie. He lied under oath essentially by signing something he knew was a lie. Don't give me the hooker with the heart of gold routine. The guy is a fraud. The sooner we out people like this the better.

horseofcourse 05-31-2011 10:52 AM

I don't hate Jim Tressel. He's a great football coach who did what he had to do to win. That's it. He is like pretty much every coach who coaches at these mega programs, no better, no worse, but in all liklihood better than most. Mack Brown and Jim Grobe got paid a million per win last year. Tressel was a bargain compared to them!! But Tressel got paid 20 to 30 million by the state of Ohio the last 10 or so years. Tressel sold his soul to win games at OSU. But so do 98 percent of D1 coaches in America. We need not feel sorry for him or think he got a bad deal or anything. It is what it is. And that's it.

randallscott35 05-31-2011 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse (Post 780450)
I don't hate Jim Tressel. He's a great football coach who did what he had to do to win. That's it. He is like pretty much every coach who coaches at these mega programs, no better, no worse, but in all liklihood better than most. Mack Brown and Jim Grobe got paid a million per win last year. Tressel was a bargain compared to them!! But Tressel got paid 20 to 30 million by the state of Ohio the last 10 or so years. Tressel sold his soul to win games at OSU. But so do 98 percent of D1 coaches in America. We need not feel sorry for him or think he got a bad deal or anything. It is what it is. And that's it.

And OJ did what he had to do too. :zz:

horseofcourse 05-31-2011 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 780449)
He did worse than lie. He lied under oath essentially by signing something he knew was a lie. Don't give me the hooker with the heart of gold routine. The guy is a fraud. The sooner we out people like this the better.

I still say the best of all time was Lou Holtz. You talk about leaving a trail of destruction everywhere he went along with pulling a Petrino in the NFL, yet he maintained and still maintains his schtick to a T and is still pulling in millions. That guy makes Tressel look like a rank amateur.

horseofcourse 05-31-2011 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 780451)
And OJ did what he had to do too. :zz:

You tell me which mega program D1 coaches are 100 percent pure? I have no sympathy for Tressel and stated that in this thread. He deserves what he got.

dalakhani 05-31-2011 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse (Post 780453)
You tell me which mega program D1 coaches are 100 percent pure? I have no sympathy for Tressel and stated that in this thread. He deserves what he got.

Joe Pa?

horseofcourse 05-31-2011 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 780455)
Joe Pa?

No chance. I went to school there and saw the parking lot at football practice! My guess is he knew absolutely nothing about it! I'm pretty sure there was at least 1 rich alumni booster at PSU! I'm sure there was a chance Joe knew nothing about anything at the time, sort of like Tressel at Youngstown St and again at OSU.

dalakhani 05-31-2011 11:31 AM

Would Tressel have gotten fired if he hadn't lied and tried to cover up?

clyde 05-31-2011 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 780460)
Would Tressel have gotten fired if he hadn't lied and tried to cover up?


I know it's the "sage" thing to say "no" to this question, but I would say "yes."

randallscott35 05-31-2011 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clyde (Post 780461)
I know it's the "sage" thing to say "no" to this question, but I would say "yes."

Sage is my favorite spice.

clyde 05-31-2011 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 780462)
Sage is my favorite spice.



Oh boy.

somerfrost 05-31-2011 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by horseofcourse (Post 780456)
No chance. I went to school there and saw the parking lot at football practice! My guess is he knew absolutely nothing about it! I'm pretty sure there was at least 1 rich alumni booster at PSU! I'm sure there was a chance Joe knew nothing about anything at the time, sort of like Tressel at Youngstown St and again at OSU.

Guessing is a far cry from proving, Joe Pa's record stands on it's own...notice he's not on the highest paid list....

horseofcourse 05-31-2011 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 780487)
Guessing is a far cry from proving, Joe Pa's record stands on it's own...notice he's not on the highest paid list....

Joe is a legend and my favorite obviously. But it is beyond silly to think nothing ever illegal went on at PSU in his 60 years there. Or to think that every kid he recruited was pristine.

College athletics and the NCAA are so broken beyond repair in general. It's mostly the NCAA. There really should be no rules on monetary gains by athletes at all. I think any school booster should be allowed to pay any athlete as much as they want, as long as the alumni in question isn't an employee of the university. I think any athlete should be allowed to be paid by an agent for his entire stay in college if he chooses. I think any athlete should be allowed to sell or trade any crap they received from the school for whatever service they desire as long as it's legal, be it tattoos, cars, stereos etc. Whatever free crap they received is now "theirs". They should be allowed to work wherever the heck they want to make extra money. The only rules that should apply is that they are academically eligible. Of course that is another monster on it's own how that is achieved!!

Of course none of this will ever happen as we truly hate freedom in this country and in other countries as well as we are truly afraid of what freedom actually will bring. The athlete should get the scholarship from the school and that's it. Whatever else they get from non-employees of the university should be open and allowed with no punishment from the NCAA. Let the crap go and let it run it's course. See what happens.

somerfrost 05-31-2011 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by horseofcourse (Post 780495)
Joe is a legend and my favorite obviously. But it is beyond silly to think nothing ever illegal went on at PSU in his 60 years there. Or to think that every kid he recruited was pristine.

College athletics and the NCAA are so broken beyond repair in general. It's mostly the NCAA. There really should be no rules on monetary gains by athletes at all. I think any school booster should be allowed to pay any athlete as much as they want, as long as the alumni in question isn't an employee of the university. I think any athlete should be allowed to be paid by an agent for his entire stay in college if he chooses. I think any athlete should be allowed to sell or trade any crap they received from the school for whatever service they desire as long as it's legal, be it tattoos, cars, stereos etc. Whatever free crap they received is now "theirs". They should be allowed to work wherever the heck they want to make extra money. The only rules that should apply is that they are academically eligible. Of course that is another monster on it's own how that is achieved!!

Of course none of this will ever happen as we truly hate freedom in this country and in other countries as well as we are truly afraid of what freedom actually will bring. The athlete should get the scholarship from the school and that's it. Whatever else they get from non-employees of the university should be open and allowed with no punishment from the NCAA. Let the crap go and let it run it's course. See what happens.

I totally agree!

knickslions2 05-31-2011 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by horseofcourse (Post 780495)
Joe is a legend and my favorite obviously. But it is beyond silly to think nothing ever illegal went on at PSU in his 60 years there. Or to think that every kid he recruited was pristine.

College athletics and the NCAA are so broken beyond repair in general. It's mostly the NCAA. There really should be no rules on monetary gains by athletes at all. I think any school booster should be allowed to pay any athlete as much as they want, as long as the alumni in question isn't an employee of the university. I think any athlete should be allowed to be paid by an agent for his entire stay in college if he chooses. I think any athlete should be allowed to sell or trade any crap they received from the school for whatever service they desire as long as it's legal, be it tattoos, cars, stereos etc. Whatever free crap they received is now "theirs". They should be allowed to work wherever the heck they want to make extra money. The only rules that should apply is that they are academically eligible. Of course that is another monster on it's own how that is achieved!!

Of course none of this will ever happen as we truly hate freedom in this country and in other countries as well as we are truly afraid of what freedom actually will bring. The athlete should get the scholarship from the school and that's it. Whatever else they get from non-employees of the university should be open and allowed with no punishment from the NCAA. Let the crap go and let it run it's course. See what happens.

Garbage post! We already have this in place its called pro sports. College athletes get a free education. Rules are in place to prohibit the richest schools from buying all the best players. I'm sick and tired of people saying college athletes should get paid. College is for education. Don't like it then don't go. As for Penn State, they may have had some issues with drinking and fighting over the years but they have been very clean in Joe's years.

somerfrost 05-31-2011 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 780514)
Garbage post! We already have this in place its called pro sports. College athletes get a free education. Rules are in place to prohibit the richest schools from buying all the best players. I'm sick and tired of people saying college athletes should get paid. College is for education. Don't like it then don't go. As for Penn State, they may have had some issues with drinking and fighting over the years but they have been very clean in Joe's years.

I agree that college is for education but some degree of fairness would be nice...how can you justify colleges getting rich off the exploits of athletes while denying them basic freedoms?

horseofcourse 05-31-2011 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 780514)
Garbage post! We already have this in place its called pro sports. College athletes get a free education. Rules are in place to prohibit the richest schools from buying all the best players. I'm sick and tired of people saying college athletes should get paid. College is for education. Don't like it then don't go. As for Penn State, they may have had some issues with drinking and fighting over the years but they have been very clean in Joe's years.

Crap, I never once in my post said the school should pay the athlete. In fact I specified all the school should give out is the scholarship. I simply said that if an athlete wants to make money off of non-university people he should be allowed to do that. Have you ever heard of co-op programs at university's for college students?? Would I as a college student ever have gotten in trouble for selling a pair of my worn out shoes for 10 bucks if I desired? could I work in the college cafeteria to make extra bucks if I desired to make extra bucks?? So why can't a college football player accept money from an agent while in college?? It's a load of crap all of the NCAA rules.

And as for Joe, he's the best, but to think no football player was ever on the "take" at PSU is naive beyond comprehension.

And the don't like it don't go doesn't really work in major sports outside of baseball now. They used to let high school players in the NBA...no longer. So they pretty much have to go in both basketball now at least for a year and in football too. Until they get a system like minor league baseball in the NFL and NBA those options don't exist unfortunately. IF they did, I'd agree with you on the don't like it don't go proclamation.

knickslions2 05-31-2011 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 780526)
I agree that college is for education but some degree of fairness would be nice...how can you justify colleges getting rich off the exploits of athletes while denying them basic freedoms?

It is the price the athletes pay for a free education. I got paid some for college bball and was very grateful. If they are good enough they make there money in the pros. If not they got a degree and have no loans to pay back. With the price of college today I think that is a great reward.

knickslions2 05-31-2011 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by horseofcourse (Post 780530)
Crap, I never once in my post said the school should pay the athlete. In fact I specified all the school should give out is the scholarship. I simply said that if an athlete wants to make money off of non-university people he should be allowed to do that. Have you ever heard of co-op programs at university's for college students?? Would I as a college student ever have gotten in trouble for selling a pair of my worn out shoes for 10 bucks if I desired? could I work in the college cafeteria to make extra bucks if I desired to make extra bucks?? So why can't a college football player accept money from an agent while in college?? It's a load of crap all of the NCAA rules.

And as for Joe, he's the best, but to think no football player was ever on the "take" at PSU is naive beyond comprehension.

Problem with this is you can't control it. Where is the cut-off. Again the rules are in place to keep an equal playing field. I went to Penn State and know athletes have been giving money or various perks. Difference is Joe dealt with it swift and has many people watching over this. Remember Curtis Enis? Was given a free suit and was thrown off the team. Joe is a dying breed of coaches. It is a shame cause Tressel was a good coach and still could have won if he was more diligent.

horseofcourse 05-31-2011 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 780532)
Problem with this is you can't control it. Where is the cut-off. Again the rules are in place to keep an equal playing field. I went to Penn State and know athletes have been giving money or various perks. Difference is Joe dealt with it swift and has many people watching over this. Remember Curtis Enis? Was given a free suit and was thrown off the team. Joe is a dying breed of coaches. It is a shame cause Tressel was a good coach and still could have won if he was more diligent.

There is no cut off. As long as university people aren't paying the athletes let everything else go. Try to enforce some sort of academic integrity in having stricter ineligibility standards. IF some alum wants to give a kid a thousand bucks to buy food or fly home who gives a crap. Yeah, this would be corrupted beyond belief I guess if the university is the one paying in the end. But an agent paying a superstar...who cares?? Why can't a kid earn money while in college?? HOnestly what would change?? Like the SEC still wouldn't dominate the playing field in football? Like Kentucky still wouldn't be good with Calipari in B-Ball?

clyde 05-31-2011 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 780514)
Garbage post! We already have this in place its called pro sports. College athletes get a free education. Rules are in place to prohibit the richest schools from buying all the best players. I'm sick and tired of people saying college athletes should get paid. College is for education. Don't like it then don't go. As for Penn State, they may have had some issues with drinking and fighting over the years but they have been very clean in Joe's years.


You are exposing your pea brain.


College players already are pros by the $100,000 plus scholarships they get when committing to a school.

It's only part of the sellout.




You fool....big time college athletics are merely for players to get ready for the NFL and so their employers can make more millions.Education has nothing to do with anything.

clyde 05-31-2011 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 780531)
It is the price the athletes pay for a free education. I got paid some for college bball and was very grateful. If they are good enough they make there money in the pros. If not they got a degree and have no loans to pay back. With the price of college today I think that is a great reward.


God.....here we go with inserting message board boasting while making stupid on topic commentys.



Go fucl< yerself and yer kumquats.

knickslions2 05-31-2011 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clyde (Post 780538)
You are exposing your pea brain.


College players already are pros by the $100,000 plus scholarships they get when committing to a school.

It's only part of the sellout.




You fool....big time college athletics are merely for players to get ready for the NFL and so their employers can make more millions.Education has nothing to do with anything.

Hey Clyde go fu%% yourself. No need for personal attacks a$$hole.

clyde 05-31-2011 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 780541)
Hey Clyde go fu%% yourself. No need for personal attacks a$$hole.


Fucl< you ,you paranoid sissy.




If you don't like it---7027 N. Aurora Road, Bainbridge Township,Ohio.


You haven't got the guts, you filthy rodent.

clyde 05-31-2011 03:27 PM

Roy, do your duty and get rid of the idiot----and his kumquats.

somerfrost 05-31-2011 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clyde (Post 780542)
Fucl< you ,you paranoid sissy.




If you don't like it---7027 N. Aurora Road, Bainbridge Township,Ohio.


You haven't got the guts, you filthy rodent.

Does he need an appointment or can he show up anytime? Seriously though, posting your address on the net is somewhat dangerous, especially in this messed up world.

clyde 05-31-2011 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 780546)
Does he need an appointment or can he show up anytime? Seriously though, posting your address on the net is somewhat dangerous, especially in this messed up world.

Good point.


Will be here today until about 5...then gone until about ,oh I don't know----maybe 7-8ish.


Tomorrow's in and out, but Thursday looks just swell for all day.





Mr. Sommer.....of what the federalies are aware;I have only killed in self defense.

knickslions2 05-31-2011 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clyde (Post 780542)
Fucl< you ,you paranoid sissy.




If you don't like it---7027 N. Aurora Road, Bainbridge Township,Ohio.


You haven't got the guts, you filthy rodent.

Okay tough guy. You really put your address on the internet? Not the sharpest tool in the shed are you. I'm only 140 miles north of ya.

clyde 05-31-2011 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 780554)
Okay tough guy. You really put your address on the internet? Not the sharpest tool in the shed are you. I'm only 140 miles north of ya.

Then it will be an easy trip.


You can call me any name you want..it don't bother me.

But you do have my address....Mr. i-net Tough Guy.


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