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GenuineRisk 05-10-2011 02:55 PM

Team Valor to Pay Albarado
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...ill&id=6521252

somerfrost 05-10-2011 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 775751)

Class act...say what you will about connections this is the right thing to do.

Antitrust32 05-10-2011 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 775753)
Class act...say what you will about connections this is the right thing to do.

it would make me feel more warm and fuzzy inside if the money wasnt going to a wife assaulter.

NTamm1215 05-10-2011 04:08 PM


randallscott35 05-10-2011 04:16 PM

He can pay his legal bills. Bravo

somerfrost 05-10-2011 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 775775)
it would make me feel more warm and fuzzy inside if the money wasnt going to a wife assaulter.

Noted...but so many times this is a cruel game for all (owners, trainers and jocks...not to mention bettors), just nice to see someone treat a person with basic respect regardless of what his perceived character may be.

declansharbor 05-10-2011 04:38 PM

It's no coincidence that since we've seen a recent increase in your posts, ive been praying to see more and more roadkill on the side of the road. Or that Peta would ask you to join them for more outings, lessening your post total.

Go back to the creepy shtick with the vamp slayer!!

somerfrost 05-10-2011 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 775787)
It's no coincidence that since we've seen a recent increase in your posts, ive been praying to see more and more roadkill on the side of the road. Or that Peta would ask you to join them for more outings, lessening your post total.

Go back to the creepy shtick with the vamp slayer!!

Or...here's an idea, since you find everything I say so offensive and lame, why not just ignore my posts, that way you can use your valuable insights with others.

Riot 05-10-2011 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 775780)

Holy cow. Ouch. His face is still so swollen, he can't even wear regular goggles. Does not need to be riding with that! I'll bet Velasquez gave him at least 1/3, so that's a good payday for Albarado.

GPK 05-10-2011 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 775786)
Noted...but so many times this is a cruel game for all (owners, trainers and jocks...not to mention bettors), just nice to see someone treat a person with basic respect regardless of what his perceived character may be.

John, he beat his wife. It's documented. How is that "perceived character"?

somerfrost 05-10-2011 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 775792)
John, he beat his wife. It's documented. How is that "perceived character"?

Well, while I consider wife beaters to be a low form of human life, my answer is that because most folks, myself included, perceive him thusly, I don't feel it's my right to judge him so I just let that to a higher power. Put another way, I perceive OBL to be a worthless, cowardly monster...but in the end, that's simply my opinion and the fact that it's shared by a lot of folks doesn't make it fact. It's a fact that he beat his wife, it's not some law of the universe that that he therefore is of a specified character, it's simply our opinion or our perception.

GPK 05-10-2011 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 775795)
Well, while I consider wife beaters to be a low form of human life, my answer is that because most folks, myself included, perceive him thusly, I don't feel it's my right to judge him so I just let that to a higher power. Put another way, I perceive OBL to be a worthless, cowardly monster...but in the end, that's simply my opinion and the fact that it's shared by a lot of folks doesn't make it fact. It's a fact that he beat his wife, it's not some law of the universe that that he therefore is of a specified character, it's simply our opinion or our perception.

But you are judging him if you consider wife beaters a low form of human life, no?

Antitrust32 05-10-2011 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 775795)
Well, while I consider wife beaters to be a low form of human life, my answer is that because most folks, myself included, perceive him thusly, I don't feel it's my right to judge him so I just let that to a higher power. Put another way, I perceive OBL to be a worthless, cowardly monster...but in the end, that's simply my opinion and the fact that it's shared by a lot of folks doesn't make it fact. It's a fact that he beat his wife, it's not some law of the universe that that he therefore is of a specified character, it's simply our opinion or our perception.

This post made me laugh out loud! :D

declansharbor 05-10-2011 05:24 PM

Mike Vick, 'making a mockery of the NFL' should be 'banned for life' from his livlihood for his crime, but a guy that smacked around his wife deserves 'basic respect regardless what his percieved image may be' ?!

I'm glad I dont see eye to eye with you, Buffy! Btw, feel free to join your fellow social defects in protesting the Eagles games! You guys reach new levels of lameness by the week! Let me know if you ever get to a game!!

somerfrost 05-10-2011 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 775798)
But you are judging him if you consider wife beaters a low form of human life, no?

But what I'm saying is that I perceive him thusly, not that it is a fact that he is, I used the word consider...making my statement an expression of my opinion, my perception.

somerfrost 05-10-2011 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 775804)
Mike Vick, 'making a mockery of the NFL' should be 'banned for life' from his livlihood for his crime, but a guy that smacked around his wife deserves 'basic respect regardless what his percieved image may be' ?!

I'm glad I dont see eye to eye with you, Buffy! Btw, feel free to join your fellow social defects in protesting the Eagles games! You guys reach new levels of lameness by the week! Let me know if you ever get to a game!!

Sorry but I'm actually an Eagles fan and have nothing but respect for Mike Vick and the way he's turned his life around. Maybe, instead of shooting your mouth off without any idea what you are talking about you might take the time to actually engage in meaningful exchange of ideas....but then, what does the truth matter?

somerfrost 05-10-2011 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 775799)
This post made me laugh out loud! :D

Glad to entertain you!

GPK 05-10-2011 05:35 PM

Ugh...I don't have time to fight the good fight, tonight.

somerfrost 05-10-2011 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 775813)
Ugh...I don't have time to fight the good fight, tonight.

Hey, that's great and far more important...enjoy!

declansharbor 05-10-2011 05:38 PM

I actually pulled those quotes from one of YOUR posts in an old thread about Vick. 'Innocent until proven guilty', but still not exempt from your JUDGEMENT of him.

Toast your next drink to the wifebeater Albarado!! I, too, am happy to see that he's bein shown basic respect and he's getting paid!!! Yaaaaaaaaay!!! :rolleyes:

somerfrost 05-10-2011 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 775815)
I actually pulled those quotes from one of YOUR posts in an old thread about Vick. 'Innocent until proven guilty', but still not exempt from your JUDGEMENT of him.

Toast your next drink to the wifebeater Albarado!! I, too, am happy to see that he's bein shown basic respect and he's getting paid!!! Yaaaaaaaaay!!! :rolleyes:

Yep, my judgement...not a statement of fact.

helicopter11 05-10-2011 08:11 PM

Its not like he needs the money. For a jockey, winning the derby is the most sought after trophy in a jockeys career. No amount of money will make up for it. If they really wanted to make it up for him, give him the mount back for the Preakness.

The Bid 05-10-2011 08:40 PM

He didn't beat her. He strangled her. He was giving her a massage and his hand slipped.

AeWingnut 05-10-2011 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 775807)
Sorry but I'm actually an Eagles fan and have nothing but respect for Mike Vick and the way he's turned his life around. Maybe, instead of shooting your mouth off without any idea what you are talking about you might take the time to actually engage in meaningful exchange of ideas....but then, what does the truth matter?

this explains so much

Mike Vick is a perfect match for the Eagles and their fans

Indian Charlie 05-10-2011 09:39 PM

Who really cares about this stuff?

And why can't I say the S word on here, while others can?

declansharbor 05-10-2011 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut (Post 775849)
this explains so much

Mike Vick is a perfect match for the Eagles and their fans

Please explain how, you clueless blowhard!! You take shots every chance you get, with a huge axe to grind. Did you get beat up at the Vet or were you the second-rate, stumbling idiot Santa Claus? Or are you just another idiot that hangs on the ballsack of every national news outlet that pretends to know about anything that even resembles our fanbase?

Your a perfect match with the last $hit i took!

Indian Charlie 05-10-2011 10:56 PM

Someone needs to change his tampon.

declansharbor 05-10-2011 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 775860)
Someone needs to change his tampon.

As soon as Drugs comes back and you DONT swing from his stem

Indian Charlie 05-10-2011 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 775861)
As soon as Drugs comes back and you DONT swing from his stem

I'm tickled, knowing that it was you who you thought I was referring to being in need of the tampon change.

declansharbor 05-10-2011 11:51 PM

Clever spotting of that statement then! I apologize, if accepted or not.

I obviously feel a tad too passionate towards the Eagles, and that shows with every nonsensical statement i make in defending them. Clouds my judgement more than Jack Herer does. Again, apologies for the abrasiveness.

Antitrust32 05-11-2011 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 775859)
Please explain how, you clueless blowhard!! You take shots every chance you get, with a huge axe to grind. Did you get beat up at the Vet or were you the second-rate, stumbling idiot Santa Claus? Or are you just another idiot that hangs on the ballsack of every national news outlet that pretends to know about anything that even resembles our fanbase?

Your a perfect match with the last $hit i took!

:tro::tro:

Left Bank 05-11-2011 07:51 AM

So is Albarado going to pay Team Valor when he jumps off one of their mounts to ride another horse? Is this the future of things to come? How silly.I feel it was nothing more than a PR move,and he should have got nothing.He even said before the derby that "it's part of the game".

cakes44 05-11-2011 08:02 AM

IGGY


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