Conspiracy theorists heads explode - full birth certificate released
 

Of course, the conspiracy theorists won't accept even this, I'm sure.

It does point out what an outright liar Donald Trump is (regarding "what his investigators have found" in Hawaii), and that's a good deed.



C-span also has the following documents as released by the White House at the press conference today: press secretaries release, Presidents authorization for lawyers to get certificate, lawyers request to Hawaii, Hawaii' response.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...th-certificate

Great. Now we can just hope he isn't reelected.

Sorry, Antitrust, I didn't see you'd already posted this. Perhaps the threads can be merged.

i think you beat me by a minute... i'm waiting anxiously for Dellinger's interpretation.

I hope now that it's out he can start acting in America's interest as a natural born citizen should, as opposed to a frenchmen tossing hankies around :)

Saw on morning news that Trump is in NH campaigning....they showed a clip of this warthog claiming: (1) the President was born in Kenya, (2) he's a Muslim and (3) he didn't deserve to get in Harvard because Trump "has heard" he was a poor student. It's well past time to shut this mother up, he up to 20% in the polls of Republican candidates and has offered no platform...nothing but personal attacks on President Obama's character. Even Republicans deserve better than this...at first he was rather funny but now he's sickening!

I just went and read RedState and Drudge to read the comments - what hysteria :D

Nearly all the comments are declaring that the document is a fake (of course!), or that the birther issue was secretly started and maintained by left wing extremists in order to paint the innocent right as racists.

:D

Yes, "release the transcripts" is the new whine from the haters.

obvious forgery
;)

As a bleeding heart liberal I will be contributing to his fund. Do Donald Go:{>:

Wow, that sounds like the same campaign that Obama ran when he won the presidency (obviously he was doing the same to President Bush).

I try really hard not to accuse folks who actually buy into this crap of being racist but it's becoming harder by the day. I've followed politics since the late 50's and have never seen anything like the right's personal attacks on a sitting President. There were snide remarks about Bush's academics and intelligence but not by candidates and nowhere near this degree. Wallace played the race card and sadly drew significant support but was quickly rejected by both parties. Nixon learned early on how to play to the nation's paranoia....but man oh man, what's next for the Obama haters?

Any personal attacks on Bush were fact.."Mission Accomplished", etc..not this birther, Muslim crap

Show me evidence of Obama attacking President Bush's character....it's one thing to attack policy and/or political ideology, quite another to engage in a personal smear campaign!

Well..he did say Bush was from Texas...that's a smear in itself

Here is the President's press conference on this issue this am. What an absurd clown show our political discourse has become:

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/BirthC

** It should be noted that our television network executives chose to break into programming to televise this five minute comment by the President - the WH did NOT ask them to do so.

Love how he says he didn't address it so far cause he's so busy yet like a clown takes time out and holds a press conference to announce how busy he is. Maybe he can call in sick at all his NYC fundraisers and get 'caught up' with work.

Trump is an idiot. He is not even a good or legit businessman and I do not know how anyone could actually support him as a presidential candidate. I could care less about this birth certificate stuff.

What I do care about is the price of Gas, inflation, jobs, wasted government $, raising the national debt limit, the US credit rating, the devaluation of the dollar, more government invasion into our lifes, taxes, and more. All of which I see the current administration, Geithner, and Bernancke as failures so far.

You've cut to the chase on where we differ...I think we had to spend our way out of the recession, gas was too cheap and I certainly trust the govt more than I do my next door neighbor, especially if he owns a gun.

Four more years.

And those are all legit issues...we can debate the direction we should be going, responsibilities for the mess we find ourselves in etc....lively debate on the issues is the essence of democracy, personal attacks are not.

The Obama administration has cut massive $$ amounts of waste from Medicare with the PPACA.

This administration has cut out massive duplication and waste from the federal government.

The massive job loss starting in the years of Bush have been stopped and reversed, although still too stagnant.

Inflation has been actively held in check by actions of the Fed.

This administration has asked for a no-frills debit ceiling raise to protect our credit rating, fighting Congress.

Your income taxes have been lowered twice during this administration and are historically low.

And you see this as "failures so far".

Nothing this administration does would please you - especially doing exactly what you want.

There may have been a need to be an increase in spending to try and help the economy. I just think we spent the wrong way(lots of wasted $) and we will find ourselves with more problems in the next few years once inflation actually comes into the market. You are just starting to see it now. What happens when mortgage rates hit 7-8% do you think the housing market will recover?

All I can say is wow! Or maybe I take my good neighbors for granted?

You live in WI Dell. Bob lives in IL. Do I need to say anything more?

And still set the record for spending!!!!!!!

And stop with the BS of PPACA saving anything. It will be a Medicare program on steroids with Post Office like results.

I'm little and Bob is 10 feet tall. Maybe that's a factor.

The sad thing is that you are repeatedly proud of your deliberate ignorance.

No, Dell, the PPACA is not a "Medicare program on steroids". It is some reforms to the private insurance industry. And it's not any "will be". It is already in effect and is the law. Seeing the law is already in existence, where is the "medicare on steroids"?

Everybody is entitled to their own view and interpretation of political and government policy. But you're no better than Donald Trump with your deliberate ignoring of reality and purposeful choosing of ignorance regarding the issues.

Nothing wrong with not supporting any administration's policies or actions, or being adamantly and actively opposed. But do it based upon the reality and truth of it. This recent national acceptance of literally making outrageously false crap up, and deliberately ignoring truth and reality, is disastrous for this country. When did it become cool to be ignorant and proud of it?**

** Oh, wait - Sarah Palin

Take out ALL subsidies and requirement to purchase insurance and go from there. Get the 'opt out' in writing if needed.

And only a small part of it is in effect and law.

Raising the debt ceiling actually will hurt the credit rating. Inflation will come, you are just starting to see it now.

Where is the "Medicare on steroids" part? How are the savings in the program that fund it false? C'mon - you continually make ridiculous and exaggerated accusations here and expect to be taken seriously with your political discourse. Support them.`

Yes, I am aware of those concerns. You, too, ignore the reality of what this administration has done.

When every high-risk/pre-condition policy holder is provided affordable rates low risk patients will be forced to pay for that affordability in the form of higher premiums. When every Tom, Dick and Harry whether because of their own fault or not are offered subsidies to pay for policies those w/o subsidies will be forced to pay that bill. That's the cost part.

The steroid part is the fraud that is inevitable and estimated at 10% in the Medicare world. Times that by 40,000,000 new patients under Obamacare and it's anabolic!

Could you explain for anyone who might have missed it, what exactly have they done?

"I know that there's going to be a segment of people for which, no matter what we put out, this issue will not be put to rest, but I'm speaking to the vast majority of the American people," Obama said. "We do not have time for this kind of silliness. We've got better stuff to do. I've got better stuff to do."

Obama was scheduled today to travel to Chicago to appear on the Oprah television show.

:rolleyes:

Yes. That is exactly as it exists now.

Please read the act and see who qualifies for the subsidies.

Except those 40,000,000 are not on Medicaid or Medicare, or part of those pools. They are in the private insurance pools that you and I are in now.

If people have chosen not to pay attention to what's been happening in this country, doubtful they will pull their heads from their asses at this point.

If they choose to do so, however (which they could read:

www.whatthe f u c k hasobamadonesofar.com (push it all together for the web link)

Or:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ises/obameter/

No teleprompter in sight. Note the admonishments to the press.

Nice deflection.

I added two links to the original post - have fun! Let us know what you learned.

He knows what his DOB is. Babysteps I guess.