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Riot 04-15-2011 12:32 PM

Wisconsin election vote fraud investigation
 
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/loc...cc4c03286.html

Quote:

The state's investigation into vote irregularities in Waukesha County will stretch back at least five years, the head of the Government Accountability Board said Thursday.

Questions over vote totals in Waukesha have lingered over the past week after County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus announced she failed to report more than 14,000 votes from the city of Brookfield in initial vote totals.
Note: Nickolaus had the election certified by the other party vote counters that afternoon, before she held her 5:30pm press conference announcing she found 14,000 votes.

Quote:

In many cases, the number of votes totaled more than the number of ballots cast.

The results for the 2006 attorney general's race, for example, show 174,047 votes for either Democrat Kathleen Falk, Republican J.B. Van Hollen or write-in candidates, a total that is 17,243 votes higher than the total ballots cast recorded elsewhere in the results.
Vote early, vote often! ;)

timmgirvan 04-15-2011 01:05 PM

DEMS get caught AGAIN!!!

Riot 04-15-2011 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan (Post 769155)
DEMS get caught AGAIN!!!

:zz: What is that supposed to mean? She's Republican, used to work under/with Prosser, and has already in her political history received immunity in exchange for testifying in a multiple felony conviction case.

timmgirvan 04-15-2011 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 769199)
:zz: What is that supposed to mean? She's Republican, used to work under/with Prosser, and has already in her political history received immunity in exchange for testifying in a multiple felony conviction case.

just wanted to get your input

nebrady 04-16-2011 11:44 AM

Its official prosser wins! Get over it!
 
Oh by the way riot its official prosser wins. Its in the paper so get over it! Oh and by the way a democrat watched her recount the votes in waukesha. So she wasn't trying to cheat she just missed votes it happens. Its gotten so ridiculous in madison that some people want to have an alternative brat fest this memorial day because Johnsonville who donates over 200,00 to the brat fest gave money to walkers campaign. What a joke and even the madison paper had an editorial saying that its getting out of hand. Congrat on prosser winning maybe this state can stay out of the news for awhile.

dellinger63 04-16-2011 12:02 PM

They should have a alternative brat fest. Serve soy brats and white wine rather than Johnsonville’s and beer. The uproar coming from Madison is predominantly the voice of students, many of whom are from out of state, and don't have a clue about the real world much less the State of Wisconsin. As soon as they go home for summer break the capital will go to sleep.

As far as the woman from Waukesha is concerned, she should be fired immediately and needs to reimburse the county for any expenses incurred fixing her mistakes. Doesn’t matter whether she is a republican or democrat she can’t do her job. Maybe returning carts in a grocery store parking lot is more her speed as long as she isn’t required to count the carts.

Riot 04-19-2011 03:55 PM

Wisconsin recall status
 
Quote:

Four recall petitions have now been filed against Republican state Senators in Wisconsin: Dan Kapanke (April 1), Randy Hopper (April 7), Luther Olsen (April 18), and Sheila Harsdorf (April 19, today).

The petitions will likely all be challenged by the Senators against whom they were filed, but given that the petitions all exceeded 140% of the minimum amount required and were closely examined before being submitted, all the challenges will fail.
www.dailykos.com

I don't know if any recalls have been successfully collected against any Democratic Senators as promised. Wiphan? Do you know of any?

dellinger63 04-21-2011 09:14 AM

This moron declared victory election night with her up just over 200 votes. Now being down more than 7,300 votes, more than a month later she wants a recount? :zz: LOL

GFY! Wisconsin can't afford such nonsense.

http://gazettextra.com/weblogs/lates...ewide-recount/

wiphan 04-21-2011 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 770187)
www.dailykos.com

I don't know if any recalls have been successfully collected against any Democratic Senators as promised. Wiphan? Do you know of any?

Yes

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepo...120328284.html

Hansen, Holperin and Wirch

wiphan 04-21-2011 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 770466)
This moron declared victory election night with her up just over 200 votes. Now being down more than 7,300 votes, more than a month later she wants a recount? :zz: LOL

GFY! Wisconsin can't afford such nonsense.

http://gazettextra.com/weblogs/lates...ewide-recount/

Estimate cost of the recount is between $3-3.5 million dollars of local govts funds to pay for the recount. In WI history the largest change of votes in response to a recount was 489 votes. Kloppenburg lost by 7,316 votes. This will definitely help the budget:eek:

wiphan 04-21-2011 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 769152)
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/loc...cc4c03286.html



Note: Nickolaus had the election certified by the other party vote counters that afternoon, before she held her 5:30pm press conference announcing she found 14,000 votes.



Vote early, vote often! ;)

The left is just mad because they didn't know how many votes they needed to cheat and win the election. They thought they had it. Nobody likes a sore loser, especially one that costs us $ Also note I don't think Nickolaus had certified the votes before the mistake was found. They were reported to the AP, but not certified I believe

Riot 04-21-2011 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 770488)

We'll see if they do get them in today. The Republicans have filed no recall petitions so far, and they have only until Tuesday to file. Another source says they only have enough signatures so far for Hansen and Holperin.

And there's this unflattering new investigation about one Republican signature gatherer:

Quote:

The Wisconsin Democratic Party is planning to file a complaint to the state Government Accountability Board alleging that a Republican signature-gatherer offered alcoholic beverages to a group of women to get them to sign a recall petition against a Democratic state senator.

Although that's not illegal in Wisconsin, it is strongly discouraged and, Democrats argue, evidence that Republicans don't really have enough grassroots support for their recall campaigns.

Reid Magney, a spokesman for the GAB -- which oversees the state's campaign finance, elections, ethics and lobbying laws -- said offering drinks in return for signatures doesn't actually appear to be illegal.

"Our attorneys have been unable to find anything in state law that would prohibit offering drinks or anything for signing a petition," Magney said, though he added that they "strongly encourage people not to do so because it taints the process."

Based on the above recording, Wisconsin Democratic Party spokesman Graeme Zielinski confirmed that the party may still file a complaint with the GAB challenging a possible Wirch recall petition on ethical grounds.

The Dems have already filed twice the signatures needed to recall four GOP Senators, but only have until May 2 to get enough signatures for anyone else.

Somewhere I read they were going to try and hold all the recall elections on the same date (rather than one at a time, as they come in).

Even though a recall election is forced, there still has to be another candidate to run, and the other candidate has to win against the incumbent being recalled.

Riot 04-21-2011 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 770491)
The left is just mad because they didn't know how many votes they needed to cheat and win the election. They thought they had it.

If you are going to make accusations of fraud, I suggest you back them up or be dismissed as a crank.

For example, like fact of the Republican county clerk Nickolaus suddenly appearing with 7,000 votes, triggering an investigation by the independent Government Accountability Board, and an expensive recount.

And yes, Nickolaus did have the Democratic members of the election council certify her results that afternoon, then she held her press conference announcing she didn't count 7,000 votes.

And the first reports of the "found" votes were not by the AP, but strangely, were in right wing blogs in late afternoon before her press conference.

Quote:

Nobody likes a sore loser, especially one that costs us $
You mean like Nickolaus coming up with the sudden votes forcing a recount because the public can't trust her (and her past political legal problems, and the fact she worked for Prosser) and now doubts the election results?

Or Prosser holding not one but two press conferences to announce his win, then also announcing at his second
I won!" pressor this week that he would attempt to legally block the recount? (even though the win margin is small enough to trigger a state-funded auto recount?)

Meanwhile, Walkers union-busting bill is on hold while it moves through the legal challenges. Seems Wisconsin has elected some expensive representatives. Three months in office, and already what they've done is tied up in courts with legal challenges, and costing the citizens hundreds of thousands of dollars.

dellinger63 04-21-2011 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 770498)
We'll see if they do get them in today. The Republicans have filed no recall petitions so far, and they have only until Tuesday to file. Another source says they only have enough signatures so far for Hansen and Holperin..


A conservative group has filed the first petition to recall a Democratic Wisconsin senator over his stance on Gov. Scott Walker's collective bargaining law.

The committee to recall Dave Hansen of Green Bay has more than the 14,000 signatures needed to trigger a recall election. Election officials have 31 days to review the signatures, unless a court grants an extension.

Groups attempting to recall Democratic Sens. Jim Holperin of Conover and Robert Wirch of Pleasant Prairie also are expected to file recall petitions on Thursday. Democrats already have filed petitions to recall four Republican senators. Both parties are targeting senators for their support or opposition to a bill that would strip most public employees of collective bargaining rights.

http://gazettextra.com/weblogs/lates...ecall-wis-dem/

Riot 04-21-2011 04:20 PM

Looks like the Republicans filed their first three today (Holperin, Wirch, Hansen) while the Dems added a fifth (Darling) to Olsen, Hopper, Kapanke, Harsdorf.

http://gab.wi.gov/

http://gab.wi.gov/elections-voting/recall

The Dems would need to defeat 3 of those to flip the Senate to Democratic control.

Riot 04-26-2011 04:19 PM

Recall update - effort to recall 3 Dems fails
 
Republican efforts to recall Dems. Taylor, Risser and Coggs have failed.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_16c6983c-6f93-11e0-a81b-001cc4c002e0.html?nstrack=sid:420910|met:102|cat:3 165555|order:2

Quote:

A recall effort targeting two Democratic state senators has fallen short at the deadline.

Organizers had until Monday afternoon to turn in petitions to recall Sen. Lena Taylor of Milwaukee and Sen. Fred Risser of Madison. But the organizers failed to meet the deadline.

Election officials are currently reviewing petitions already turned in against five GOP senators and three Democratic senators. The senators are being targeted for their votes for or against a divisive bill that curtails collective bargaining rights for most public employees.

Organizers targeting Democratic Sen. Spencer Coggs of Milwaukee have until Tuesday to file a recall petition.

dellinger63 04-26-2011 06:27 PM

as a sidebar those Dr.'s writing the fake notes were punished. I have no problem with that but do with "The statement didn't identify the doctors, citing public employee records laws, and said "the school will not comment on individual cases."

'We' as in 'taxpayers' pay them and WTF is public employees records laws? Good Grief! Let's see who the f'ups were.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/loc...cc4c03286.html

Riot 04-26-2011 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 771625)
as a sidebar those Dr.'s writing the fake notes were punished. I have no problem with that but do with "The statement didn't identify the doctors, citing public employee records laws, and said "the school will not comment on individual cases."

'We' as in 'taxpayers' pay them and WTF is public employees records laws? Good Grief! Let's see who the f'ups were.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/loc...cc4c03286.html

I don't see how the Board will end up being able to do anything - they would have to be able to actively disprove a valid doctor-patient relationship exists.

It's just a witch hunt.

dellinger63 04-28-2011 08:36 AM

MADISON, Wis. (AP) — The Wisconsin Grocers Association is warning its members to be on the lookout for opponents of Gov. Scott Walker who are planning to deface some products in grocery stores on May 1.

Walker opponents have urged consumers to boycott companies that have donated to the governor's campaign. The Journal Sentinel says there's a current effort to expand the boycott nationally by placing stickers on products in grocery stores. Among the targeted products are Johnsonville brats, AngelSoft toilet paper, Sargento cheese and Coors beer.

The grocers group has created a sign for stores to post alerting people that placing stickers on products in stores is illegal.


http://gazettextra.com/weblogs/lates...lker-stickers/

Got half my shopping list done! Prefer Miller Lite but Colorado here I come.

dellinger63 04-28-2011 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 771639)
I don't see how the Board will end up being able to do anything - they would have to be able to actively disprove a valid doctor-patient relationship exists.

It's just a witch hunt.

and I want the witches identities. You know since they are 'public employees'.

wiphan 04-28-2011 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 771999)
MADISON, Wis. (AP) — The Wisconsin Grocers Association is warning its members to be on the lookout for opponents of Gov. Scott Walker who are planning to deface some products in grocery stores on May 1.

Walker opponents have urged consumers to boycott companies that have donated to the governor's campaign. The Journal Sentinel says there's a current effort to expand the boycott nationally by placing stickers on products in grocery stores. Among the targeted products are Johnsonville brats, AngelSoft toilet paper, Sargento cheese and Coors beer.

The grocers group has created a sign for stores to post alerting people that placing stickers on products in stores is illegal.


http://gazettextra.com/weblogs/lates...lker-stickers/

Got half my shopping list done! Prefer Miller Lite but Colorado here I come.

Not sure why they picked Coors and not all Miller products since MillerCoors is one company. I would prefer if these people think life is so bad here to just get the heck out of our state. Since the merger of Miller and Coors I have seen a substantial amount of high paying jobs move to WI, which in turn has helped our local economy. I guess we should be buying Tsingtao instead of Miller or Coors because that would be supporting a company and country that better reflects the beliefs of these morons.

Riot 04-28-2011 06:36 PM

Recount for Supreme Court, Prosser (winner) challenged by Kloppenburg under way. Have been some vote changes a few hundred this way and that so far, to be expected.

http://gab.wi.gov/elections-voting/recount

PDF file there under Recount Daily Totals, listing original votes in each precinct, and recounted vote total.

dellinger63 04-28-2011 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 772111)
Recount for Supreme Court, Prosser (winner) challenged by Kloppenburg under way. Have been some vote changes a few hundred this way and that so far, to be expected.

http://gab.wi.gov/elections-voting/recount

PDF file there under Recount Daily Totals, listing original votes in each precinct, and recounted vote total.

FYI Kloppenburg claimed victory with 200 some votes and is challenging the 7000 vote number she lost by. My guess is she grew up playing in a soccer league thats games always ended in ties. :zz:

Danzig 04-28-2011 06:58 PM

i hope no one boycotts angel soft tissue. a lot of people work at gp, including my husband...we aren't responsible for a couple of rich owners' politics.
boycotts always hit the employees, not the billionaires who are the target.

dellinger63 04-28-2011 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 772118)
i hope no one boycotts angel soft tissue. a lot of people work at gp, including my husband...we aren't responsible for a couple of rich owners' politics.
boycotts always hit the employees, not the billionaires who are the target.

No worries. This could not have been a better advertisement for the product. Many more will try it (like me) and become customers than will boycott it, trust me. Besides don't these people use bark or brown recylcled paper anyway?


And brats please? Mind has well boycotted dear hunting licenses and fishing poles. :)

Danzig 04-28-2011 07:10 PM

johnsonville is good stuff; we pick up some of their sausages every grocery trip. guess i need to start buying sargento cheese!

Riot 04-28-2011 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 772116)
FYI Kloppenburg claimed victory with 200 some votes and is challenging the 7000 vote number she lost by. My guess is she grew up playing in a soccer league thats games always ended in ties. :zz:

If only you ever read a newspaper, or an internet news story :) Then you'd know why she filed the recount.

Speaking of recalls, the Dems have another GOP on the recall ballot. The GOP doesn't seem to be able to get any more Dems (they failed the last three they tried to get sigs for)

Quote:

Today, the Committee to Recall Robert Cowles submitted over 25,000 signatures -- more than the required 15,960 -- to the state’s Government Accountability Board, becoming the ninth recall drive of state senators the board is reviewing that could eventually trigger a recall election. Of the nine, six target Republican state senators like Cowles, and three target Democratic state senators.

dellinger63 04-29-2011 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 772148)
If only you ever read a newspaper, or an internet news story :) Then you'd know why she filed the recount


Dog and Pony Show. Again she declared victory based on 200 votes and we are recounting after a 7,000 vote victory.

BTW what the local papers and comments are saying (in Wisconsin not Huffington)


Given the vote margin, should the taxpayers being paying for the state Supreme court recount?



We didn't record your vote, because this poll has been closed.

Response Percent Votes
Yes 33% 45 votes
No 64% 86 votes
No opinion 1% 2 votes
133 total votes

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reader COMMENTS noretreat
Apr 29, 2011 at 7:18 a.m.
Suggest removal The law should be changed that you can ask for the recount within that margin, but if you lose your paying for it.

There is no real resaon for this recount and the Klop. team wouldnt have bothered if their own money was at risk.
donnaw
Apr 29, 2011 at 6:45 a.m.
Suggest removal It's funny, the people that are for the recount are the same ones that thought it was okay for the 14 to run away to Illinois rather than do their jobs. And for the protestors to use fake doctor excuses.
partarican1
Apr 28, 2011 at 4:53 p.m.
Suggest removal it is allowable under the law, so why should she not have the right to a recount?
BornInWiscosnin
Apr 27, 2011 at 8:53 p.m.
Suggest removal This question makes it sound like this is money out of our pockets. I think most of the "cost" is the salary of people who will be doing the recount, but who would be getting that salary anyway. We taxpayers have already paid for their services. Perhaps a better question would be, do we want them to do the recount or some other whatever-it-might-be thing they would do instead? I mean no disrespect whatsoever for those people and their important and honorable jobs.
kaysbrew
Apr 27, 2011 at 1:30 p.m.
Suggest removal No count with that big of a margin has ever been reversed in Wisconsin or any other state. This may be within the law but doesn't mean you need to abuse the taxpayers for it.


http://wclo.com/polls/2011/apr/taxpa...count/results/

dellinger63 04-29-2011 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 772148)
Speaking of recalls, the Dems have another GOP on the recall ballot. The GOP doesn't seem to be able to get any more Dems (they failed the last three they tried to get sigs for)


Many republicans, at least in my area, haven't returned from their winter homes yet. :) They must be harder to find since they all don't group together like dems do. Talking WI not the country.

Riot 04-29-2011 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 772214)
Many republicans, at least in my area, haven't returned from their winter homes yet. :) They must be harder to find since they all don't group together like dems do. Talking WI not the country.

Dates for recall are past. Can't be done.

dellinger63 04-30-2011 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 772414)
Dates for recall are past. Can't be done.

The results of the Dems actions won't only be reflected by recalls. There is a super secret republican boycott going on that I'll let you in on. Numerous well-to-do folks have finally had it, pulled the trigger, and bought FL homes/condos (available now for dimes on the dollar) as winter retreats. Six months and one day a year allows them to file as FL residents saving 6.5%/year and thus no longer have a part in supporting the bloated government and its unions. When you're talking $300K/year of tax liabilities it's $19,500/year in tax saved or $1,625/month. A free house/condo for just moving! Figure in these properties will likely double, triple or go even higher than that in the next 30 years they are turning a $585,000.00 tax payment into a $1.7 million profit a 2 and a quarter million dollar difference. All by simply following the tax laws. And so as to not bum you out too much they will still support the local community and education in the form of property taxes and will now be pitching in for the education of kids in Marco Island, Long Boat Key and other beautiful spots. They can also say goodbye to winter heating bills though some of that will be offset by air conditioning on real hot days. :D

Riot 05-01-2011 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 772502)
The results of the Dems actions won't only be reflected by recalls. There is a super secret republican boycott going on that I'll let you in on. Numerous well-to-do folks have finally had it, pulled the trigger, and bought FL homes/condos (available now for dimes on the dollar) as winter retreats. Six months and one day a year allows them to file as FL residents saving 6.5%/year and thus no longer have a part in supporting the bloated government and its unions. When you're talking $300K/year of tax liabilities it's $19,500/year in tax saved or $1,625/month. A free house/condo for just moving! Figure in these properties will likely double, triple or go even higher than that in the next 30 years they are turning a $585,000.00 tax payment into a $1.7 million profit a 2 and a quarter million dollar difference. All by simply following the tax laws. And so as to not bum you out too much they will still support the local community and education in the form of property taxes and will now be pitching in for the education of kids in Marco Island, Long Boat Key and other beautiful spots. They can also say goodbye to winter heating bills though some of that will be offset by air conditioning on real hot days. :D

I have a lot in Marco, purchased in 1988, you can buy ;) And before you try and predict the Florida real estate market futures, I suggest you google "Medicare fraud" and "Rick Scott".

Oh, Dell, you make me laugh.

dellinger63 05-01-2011 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 772811)
I have a lot in Marco, purchased in 1988,
Oh, Dell, you make me laugh.

They are not buying swamp and or lots. LOL

And I'm laughing!!!

wiphan 05-04-2011 03:16 PM

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/121176134.html

You should hear the tape.

wiphan 05-04-2011 03:19 PM

better yet, here is the link for the tape and transcript

http://www.620wtmj.com/shows/charlie...74.html?blog=y

Riot 05-04-2011 04:08 PM

Well, the Democrats are challenging the dead people on the GOP petitions completed by the outsiders from Colorado hired by the GOP to fill them out, and the Republicans can challenge any signatures on the Dem petitions.

wiphan 05-04-2011 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 773783)
Well, the Democrats are challenging the dead people on the GOP petitions completed by the outsiders from Colorado hired by the GOP to fill them out, and the Republicans can challenge any signatures on the Dem petitions.

Any wrong signatures should be excluded and if there are signatures of dead people on the recall petitions they should be challenged.

However you have to agree the actions by this professor who specifically tells his students to illegally sign a petition when they don't live in the district and to make sure they use their "campus address" is just wrong. As a person with power over his students his actions are ridiculous. I wonder how many other professors or teachers did the same...

Riot 05-04-2011 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 773786)
Any wrong signatures should be excluded and if there are signatures of dead people on the recall petitions they should be challenged.

However you have to agree the actions by this professor who specifically tells his students to illegally sign a petition when they don't live in the district and to make sure they use their "campus address" is just wrong. As a person with power over his students his actions are ridiculous. I wonder how many other professors or teachers did the same...

If a student's campus address is their legal address, it's legal to sign. If it isn't, yes, it should be thrown out.

As an aside, I'm very concerned about the current Republican nationwide push to change current voting laws in order to disinfranchise students from voting on campus before 2012.

No, I agree it's questionable to have that in a classroom (due to the professors power) just as it is to have recall petitions going around at a workplace via a supervisor.

wiphan 05-04-2011 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 773802)
If a student's campus address is their legal address, it's legal to sign. If it isn't, yes, it should be thrown out.

As an aside, I'm very concerned about the current Republican nationwide push to change current voting laws in order to disinfranchise students from voting on campus before 2012.

No, I agree it's questionable to have that in a classroom (due to the professors power) just as it is to have recall petitions going around at a workplace via a supervisor.

Did you listen or read the transcript? See below and tell me what is questionable?

STUDENT: I live in Menasha and from what I understand Senator Ellis is who, is representing [inaudible].

PROFESSOR: Um, I think you can sign it and if it doesn't, if you are in that district then your signature just won't count.

Um, if you sign this you should sign this you should sign it uh, with uh, um your campus address. You know like if you, instead of your parents' address sign it with the address here on campus.
Um, I’m not asking you to do it you're not required to do this, it's a free country, you can sign it or not sign it.

Um, I'd prefer to have people do it outside cause that way, you know it's not like I'm watching who's signing and who's not signing.

Um...and so if you want to you can go outside and sign it, if you don’t want to then well just, just stay in class.

Riot 05-04-2011 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 773813)
Did you listen or read the transcript? See below and tell me what is questionable?

STUDENT: I live in Menasha and from what I understand Senator Ellis is who, is representing [inaudible].

PROFESSOR: Um, I think you can sign it and if it doesn't, if you are in that district then your signature just won't count.

Um, if you sign this you should sign this you should sign it uh, with uh, um your campus address. You know like if you, instead of your parents' address sign it with the address here on campus.
Um, I’m not asking you to do it you're not required to do this, it's a free country, you can sign it or not sign it.

Um, I'd prefer to have people do it outside cause that way, you know it's not like I'm watching who's signing and who's not signing.

Um...and so if you want to you can go outside and sign it, if you don’t want to then well just, just stay in class.

Did you miss the part where I already said the professor shouldn't have done that in the classroom?


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