KY denies Dutrow license; Injunction allowing runners
 

Kentucky committee denies Dutrow a racing license
By Matt Hegarty

FLORENCE, Ky. – A Licensing Review Committee of the Kentucky Horse Racing Commission on Wednesday denied Rick Dutrow a racing license, putting in jeopardy the trainer’s ability to start horses at any time this year in the state.

The review committee, meeting in a conference room of the offices of Travis Burr, chairman of the Licensing Review Committee, denied the license after questioning Dutrow for just more than hour about his license application, which was filed Tuesday afternoon.

In voting unanimously to deny the license, the committee approved a motion citing seven sections of Kentucky racing law, including “misrepresentations” on the license application and “conduct against the best interest of racing.”

Following the vote, Dutrow said he did not know if he would appeal. Asked if he was treated fairly during the hearing, Dutrow said “I don’t know, but that doesn’t matter.”

We'll see if the snake will figure out a way around it.

I'm assuming that if he isn't licensed, then he can not get stalls, right?

IEAH gets it where the sun don't shine also in having to scratch their horses!

WIN WIN

I assume this means Court Vision is out Friday, right?

Read the phucking article.

Ouch!!!
:eek:

I feel bad for dutrow. It's like bonds w roids. Somebody is going to be made an example of and Dutrow is cocky enough that it's going to be him. I hope racing doesn't ultimately take away his livelyhood, the only thing the guys ever done.

Good :tro: We'll see how he tries to get around it.

How long does it take to transfer a horse to another trainer and get licensed by the state?

I was hoping to see Court Vision run.

To be fair he didn't have time...he had to start a thread about it on every other racing site on the web...along with all the other negative complaining ones.

Cheaters and stealers always seem to survive....

They have wanted Dutrow for a long time

When you have guys strangling their wives riding for 750k is it fair to take away a guys livelyhood for overages, or positives, that don't warrant the crime? Whether people think he cheats should be inconsequential. Show why, on paper, definitively, why he's being denied a licnese. Even cheaters, liars, thievs, murderers, should be granted a due process.

Read more: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...#ixzz1JQPQyZ5X

my heart goes out to him :rolleyes:

-bt-

I disagree with this 10000%. This is for a racing license, not a court case. The committee has the right to deny anyone.

Why after granting a license to a convicted felon over and over they finally decide.... Ah this year I don't think so. I'm sure he filled out the paperwork the same he always has. What makes his ninety first positive different than the 90th? What makes him breaking into a slot machine relevant when it hasn't been prior?

Anti trust.. Regardless what line of work somebody is in I think it's wrong to deny them a livelyhood w out sufficient reason. There should be very clear rules throughout racing and there aren't.

The best part is that felony is because he broke into a slot machine in Nevada.

On all licenses, it asks you if you have been convicted of a felony, and usually within the next question or two is asks if it involved gaming and book making

I think that there is certainly sufficient reason. A livelihood isn't being denied, a professional license is. If you own a bar and the state won't renew your liquor license after finding some violations isn't that denying someone a livelihood? Well that happens all the time. If you're a lawyer and you get disbarred (essentially the same thing as losing your license) isn't that taking away a livelihood? If you drive trucks for living and lose you drivers license isn't that denying someone a livelihood?

If he stopped getting positive tests and stopped getting suspended and did simple things like filling out his own application or taking it serious enough to make sure it was correct he would not be in the predicament that he is in. You can blame whoever you want, you can say they have it out for him, etc but the fact is he has no one to blame but himself.

There may be sufficient reason but what's the difference in this year or last? He broke into a slot machine like a racoon in a trashcan years ago. There is no consistency and I think that's a major issue. Now he's going to
be a scapegoat for many guys who push the envelope and I think that's unfair

Training horses has to be his livelyhood, whatelse could he possibly do? If you're going to take somebodies quality of living and livelyhood away then it shouldn't be a subjective process or because a couple guys dislike his personality.

maybe he pulls a manny and rides off into the sunset.

What about the people who have already lost their livelihood and quality of living because of guys like Dutrow?

See Wall Street. Same ****. Nobody is in jail who should be.

According to TVG, they asked the steward that question and they said since the horses were already entered under his name that he couldn't enter them under another name for that race.

The difference is that perhaps more of his transgressions came to light and if you lie about them you get denied a license? Pretty simple. And there is no excuse for not having an accurate list of violations. If you go into virtually any licensing office or contact the RCI you can get a printout of all your violations to attach to the license application. To not have the application filled out properly especially when he knows the heat is on is indefensible.

Cannon why can't the commission pull all the violations on all applicants? It's their job to accept, deny, all apps. He had the same violations in years past, why is it so significant now? Why is it okay in years past? Let me ask to this..... Do u think if he had big brown this year his app is denied?

"What did the owners do wrong?"

Iavarone told The New York Times that he had worked for Goldman Sachs, the world’s largest investment bank.

But he never worked for Goldman Sachs, and in fact was fined and suspended for making unauthorized trades at the A. R. Baron & Co. brokerage firm.

Another scumbag who has a license... So why do they have them
and why deny Dutrow now?

Do you know what he has put down in the past or put down this year? Hell he doesn't even know what he put down. It is simple, handle your business. He hasn't in the past and he didn't on this occasion.

If not now when?

that sucks 'babe':D

After Court Vision runs obviously

When.... When they have a guideline and make every trainer follow the exact same protocal, otherwise it's selective and unfair

I don't have his app in front of me but my wild guess is he's filled it out the same way each year he's applied and been granted a license. Especially since they are noting a felony from years past. He said he put it down each year, they never need any particulars and grant a license... However, this year it's
time to take a hardline?

Maybe he's had 300 positives. Maybe he's broken into casinos and banks, and whatever else, but if none of this is new why are they now
holding him accountable? I would think as a trainer you'd want something unifrom and very clear cut. Absolute rules, with absolute consequence

This seems pretty clear cut and uniform. He broke the rules and thy called him on it. You act as though he is the first person that this has ever happened to. He has a ton of violations and I applaud the KHRA for taking steps to make guys that dont follow the rules pay. A license is not a right but privilege.

In case you hadn't noticed things aren't exactly peachy with horse racing and taking action against serial violators is a far more effective part of cleaning up the game than banning Lasix.

Haha..there isn't a chance in hell they would go through with this if it was 2008...and Big Brown was gonna be the big fav for the Derby.

are you saying that when it comes to favorites - they look the other way?

Amen Hal & CV were gonna be favored.

Im just saying that THE BID has an excellent point.....that they never would have denied him a license when he had Big Brown coming for the Derby.;)

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• [C] an official document which gives you permission to own, do or use something, usually after you have paid money and/or taken a test

If Dubb feels like busting a new hole in KY. ass they are going to bleed money, and lose a lot of respect in any court of law. Just my opinion.

Be fair:

Did they warn either publicly or privately that he was on "double secret probation"

Do they have a defined penial system?

Is there precedent for such capricious decisions?

new article:
http://www.brooklynbackstretch.com/2...ith-ed-martin/

If the Racing Commission has the ability to pull the records on past violations, then why don't they simply pull the records and not require applicants to supply the information?

That part seems like more of a trap to me than anything......

It's not a trap it's a capricious well positioned excuse to do what they want.