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Loved to see Uncle Mo beat! Run your horses trainers!

i guess that answers the distance question....... he can't run it....c'mon those puke horses just kicked your uncle mo in!!!!!!uncle mo eats wood.......priceless..........uncle mo, uncle mo......lol

How many other trainers are now regreting not going in the wood? Super happy for Motion...

Was that really a Jose "the choke" Ferrer sighting in the Bay Shore?:zz:

The distance had nothing to do with it, JPH.

How do you know? Didn't have anything left in the tank after a mile, at least no turn of foot he has shown in the past. He could have been short but from the connection speak it sounded like they had him ready. He could be hurt. We should find out this week. The third option is he isn't going to get 10 furlongs.

I answered this in the Wood thread, but to summarize my already short post there, I thought he didn't get over the track well at all. Either due to dislike of the track, or soreness.

Both are ceartainly possible........I'm still not sold he can get 10 panels. Chances are we may not get a chance to find out

If he's sound, healthy, etc and in the gate for the Derby, he should still win, now just at a bigger price.

That is a big freaking IF though.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...aul&id=6317906

Trainer Todd Pletcher said afterwards that Uncle Mo grabbed his left-front quarter, shearing off a piece of the hoof wall the size of a quarter while leaving the gate sharply in what appeared to be a clean break, but would not use the mishap as an excuse. Uncle Mo's immediate future, however, is uncertain.

"He grabbed a quarter leaving the gate," Pletcher said. "It didn't help but I'm not using that as an excuse. After that, he was kind of hounded early on. The fractions were reasonable. It was his first time going a mile and an eighth, first time over the Aqueduct surface. I was a little concerned turning for home at the three-sixteenths pole when he didn't really kick clear. I thought then that we were going to be in for a fight. You could see the last fifty to sixty yards he was tired.

uncle blow.

the best was listening to repole on hrtv saying if he was zito he shouldn't be "impressed' with dialed in's performance in the fla derby.

not to mention that he closed on a speed favoring rack.

i hope mo gets the #1 post in the derby.

Yeah, and I hope you get a brain finally.

At least your hope has a 5% chance of coming true.

Zito has really fooled everyone on this one.

we will see big shot. i also hope zito's horse laughs at him as runs right past him.

if he even shows up.

I really love reading stupid post like many of the above. I'm thinking that many are tongue in cheek. With Uncle Moe losing we saw derby odds change from 3/2 to 4/1.. Maybe.

It's fine to hate Uncle Mo, but how many folks are going to bet Toby's Corner in the Derby? As much as I think Motion is a good dude, if the choice is between Uncle Mo and Toby's Corner on May 7th, I'm taking Uncly 100 times out of 100.

Really?

If you're betting on Uncle Mo in this year's Derby you are doing it based on something that has not even happened in 2011. You'd be doing it based on 2YO form and, I needn't even really say it, is a horrible approach in a race like the Derby.

Toby's Corner is not much horse but he at least is going to get a good pace setup in the Derby (more likely than not) and responded kindly to an equipment change for a good trainer.

I have no idea why there is all the hate for uncle Mo. I guess it's easy to come out and say stuff after the race is done and the horse laid an egg. But if you really didn't like him (for whatever reason), maybe some people should have took the time and figured out a way to cash out on what could have been a dream opportunity to make some cash. After all, you don't find to many vulnerable 1/9 shots around.
But I guess they would rather wait and hope the horse bombed and then just make tons of stupid coments instead.

I would have rather seen him run "this race" the 1st Saturday in May though.....;) watch, he'll probably win the Derby by a half dozen lengths! :D

Given that the form of 99.83 percent of 3YO's in 2011 has been mediocre to poor, going off the juvenile champion's form is probably just as worthwhile in a dart board race like the Kentucky Derby as any other handicapping method, IMO. Particularly off ONE poor start.

Six times in the last ten years a horse has won the Derby off a loss in his last prep.

I agree about the odd abundance of hate for this horse. Fine if people have other opinions, though I didn't see any " I am betting against Uncle Mo with such and such horse and here's why " posts, but more a lot of post race hate/redboards. Uncle Mo was a monsterous talent last year. He wasn't lucky, or dressed up, but just a flat out brilliant racehorse. Maybe he isn't anymore....but I don't see how that's a good thing. We need as many truly good horses as we can get.

Anyone that didn't see that Uncle Mo was the real deal last year has no idea how to evaluate a racehorse. The game is worse, not better, if he is no longer that kind of talent.

While I agree, I think it's wayyy premature to say he's dropped off.

You are confusing dislike for the connections with dislike for the horse.

I hope he bounces back. He's a terrific horse. But I'm skeptical.

not quite sure why anyone would 'dislike the connections'. its repole, not ieah for crying out loud.
at any rate, i think the only complaints i've seen about this horse are similar to what i've said, lack of racing, as well as too much emphasis on what was done last year-we know how much bearing that can have the next year....however, there's bound to be a reason for that lack of starts....as for the future, no one knows what that holds. i do know tho that this crop is still shaking itself out, with some good runners sadly already sidelined. mo has a shot at redemption on a track where he's already won. i also find it interesting that he's now being declared as a miler, when he's won past that distance already. maybe he's not a 10f-er. but right now, who is?? this is why the run them, to see. onward!

Excellent view expressed.:tro:

its not hate ...i was skeptical all along......i always am.....its called gambling.....the bandwagon never makes money and rarely wins bets......people never,ever learn. when there are sure things....let me know.....being a fan is fine but its no way to conduct bets..... being a great two year old and converting that to a great 3 yo hardly ever happens anymore....there is a reason so many horses win the juve and then flop. you can't win like a champ and hide in the weeds forever , eventually you will be exposed, especially when the distances get longer....if that horse wins at 10 furlongs i'll eat my shorts.....in the meantime i'll read here about the next "can't lose" horse....lol

What's to hate about Repole? He's a self made millionaire off a great product, from Queens, and loves to be a racehorse owner- from the nickel claimer right on up to Uncle Mo. Remember, Uncle Mo was his first graded stakes winner, it's not like he's some monster owner. I mean seriously, the horses he ran against today were terrible. I personally wanted to see him win by a pole and have a real horse as the Derby favorite. With him potentially not being a 10F horse we could see another Mine That Bird type horse win, how exactly is that a good thing?

For full disclosure, I did not bet the race because I couldn't find a viable alternative. My buddy was looking for suggestions and I told him to bet against the showjumpers and it damn near paid off.

Honestly, does everybody just hate New Yorkers? I get that sense around KY sometimes.

Not to mention -- he is one of the guys out there really supporting retirement and getting people involved any way they can.

And you have to be a seriously cool person to make Pletcher crack that robotic armour...

I had woo-hooed in another thread which was for Toby's Corner, but I wish Mo put on the show he did in the BC Juvenile. I guess the bright side is we won't be reading articles about how he is going to bounce to the moon in the Derby. :rolleyes:

Well said. I don't get why people don't like the guy.

Seriously?

Cause people are bitter and jealous trolls.

People really don't get why the connections aren't looked at positively? Really? I like the horse just fine, but his connections aren't easy to root for.

Secretariat also finished third in the 1973 Wood before sweeping the Triple Crown. I wonder if people loved to see that too!!! It's not like Todd had a bad day, considering he won the Ill Derby. I just feel bad for Repole, who had 100 or so family at the track for the predicted win.

Now on to Andy, who preaches bad bets on 1-9 horses. He was a bad bet, and you singled him in the P4, that was a bad bet. You preach, I listen. Live and learn.:)

No one said Repole is perfect, but if the biggest negative you can say about him is that he let Pletcher be a ***** with his horse, well, there are worse things.

So people don't like Repole because of Pletcher? That's a stretch. Repole is one of the better things to come along in the sport in quite awhile. People who don't like him are hating for hate's sake as far as I'm concerned.

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How are those hindsight glasses working for you? I guess if Andy went 4 deep in the race and Uncle Mo romped by 12, he would have been a fool for going so deep in a race with a 1-9 shot in it.

The guy gave out a $125 horse the other day and you want to ridicule him about singling a horse who looked like the only way he could lose was if the jockey fell off. It's a little unfair, don't you think?

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41767

I hope this is just the 3:48 AM talking because this is ignorant. The guy gave out a $120. horse earlier in the day and if you boxed his horses in that race it was a $3000. tri. Yet you get on him for missing on a horse that looked far superior on paper. I'm sorry someone held a gun to your head and made you bet what he said. :rolleyes: Many on here appreciate Andy, Doug, Nick T, and Steve for giving their insight and it has helped us become better handicappers. Don't be such an @hole, if you aren't willing to lose on some one else's opinion, don't use it.

It's easy to hate Uncle Mo because of his arrogant trainer and owner. Most of the same people hate the Pat's, Yankee's, Celt's and Lakers.

Nothing against Repole putting money in the business and supporting racing is great. Do not quote me but I think he made comments about running horses more and showing off uncle mo, (correct me if I am wrong). Then he runs him twice before the derby, and you know damn well if Mo had swept the triple crown he would have been sent to the shed right away. As for Pletcher maybe he had no choice but to run him in the races he did, we all know Repole wanted the Wood all along, but could an extra race helped?