Derby Trail Forums

Derby Trail Forums (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/index.php)
-   The Paddock (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2)
-   -   Met Mile (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41699)

NTamm1215 04-04-2011 09:10 AM

Met Mile
 
I read over the weekend that Sadler is pointing Twirling Candy to the Met Mile.

Morning Line is headed there as well, Smiling Tiger, Soaring Empire, and Dublin!.

Going to be a fun race. We needed a non-Derby thread on here.

Coach Pants 04-04-2011 09:39 AM

I can't wait!

Who is Sadler entering in the 2012 Met Mile?

knickslions2 04-04-2011 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 765934)
I read over the weekend that Sadler is pointing Twirling Candy to the Met Mile.

Morning Line is headed there as well, Smiling Tiger, Soaring Empire, and Dublin!.

Going to be a fun race. We needed a non-Derby thread on here.

Thats good news. Should be a fun race.

randallscott35 04-04-2011 09:48 AM

Dublin needed a little time off ehh.

blackthroatedwind 04-04-2011 09:58 AM

It would be great if Twirling Candy comes. You also have to wonder if any of the fast 3YOs could take a shot this year, though I guess with the Woody Stephens 12 days away, they will probably go there.

The Met is a great race. If the Carter stays as it looked last week, Morning Line will be very tough there, unless Apriority ships.

VOL JACK 04-04-2011 10:44 AM

How could Dublin possibly lose?

VOL JACK 04-04-2011 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 765942)
It would be great if Twirling Candy comes. You also have to wonder if any of the fast 3YOs could take a shot this year, though I guess with the Woody Stephens 12 days away, they will probably go there.

The Met is a great race. If the Carter stays as it looked last week, Morning Line will be very tough there, unless Apriority ships.

Why would they?
None of them would have any shot to compete with decent older horses.

blackthroatedwind 04-04-2011 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 765947)
Why would they?
None of them would have any shot to compete with decent older horses.

You're kidding....right?

Indian Charlie 04-04-2011 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 765947)
Why would they?
None of them would have any shot to compete with decent older horses.

Ok, I'll bite.

Why do you say that?

NTamm1215 04-04-2011 10:58 AM

These 3YOs from DrugS' Derby chances list would be interesting in the Met Mile to me (though none of them will probably go):

Dialed In
The Factor
To Honor And Serve
Soldat
Sheckleford
Comma to the Top
Sway Away

Toss in Flashpoint and Travelin Man as well.

blackthroatedwind 04-04-2011 11:16 AM

The Factor would win the Met.

So would Uncle Mo.

3kings 04-04-2011 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 765964)
The Factor would win the Met.

So would Uncle Mo.

What if they both ran, who would be most likely in a fairly drawn field?

blackthroatedwind 04-04-2011 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 765989)
What if they both ran, who would be most likely in a fairly drawn field?

Probably Uncle Mo, as if nothing else we know he can rate, but it would be a helluva matchup.

Travis Stone 04-04-2011 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 765964)
The Factor would win the Met.

When (maybe if) The Factor backs-up in the Derby, I wonder if someone could convince Baffert to make that move.

VOL JACK 04-04-2011 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 765964)
The Factor would win the Met.

So would Uncle Mo.

Well, it would obviously depend on who showed up.

If Twirling Candy, Apiority, Morning Line, Soaring Empire, Captain Candyman, Mission Impazable all entered...you would be betting The Factor and Uncle Mo?

Maybe I would too in the Cigar mile this Fall but, not in May.

PatCummings 04-04-2011 04:34 PM

Considering the breeding value people assign to the those monster mile winners over 12-furlong classic horses, why try for the Triple Crown. Can you imagine Mo winning the Derby then waiting for the Met Mile...:eek:

Travis Stone 04-04-2011 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatCummings (Post 766108)
Considering the breeding value people assign to the those monster mile winners over 12-furlong classic horses, why try for the Triple Crown. Can you imagine Mo winning the Derby then waiting for the Met Mile...:eek:

Given his opposition to this point, I think he should just squeeze a Met Mile start in between the Preakness/Belmont.

Indian Charlie 04-04-2011 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 766100)
Well, it would obviously depend on who showed up.

If Twirling Candy, Apiority, Morning Line, Soaring Empire, Captain Candyman, Mission Impazable all entered...you would be betting The Factor and Uncle Mo?

Maybe I would too in the Cigar mile this Fall but, not in May.

Mo would almost certainly win that race with that field. Maybe Twirling Candy.

Indian Charlie 04-04-2011 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatCummings (Post 766108)
Considering the breeding value people assign to the those monster mile winners over 12-furlong classic horses, why try for the Triple Crown. Can you imagine Mo winning the Derby then waiting for the Met Mile...:eek:

Yeah, the first TC winner in over 30 years would definitely be worth less than the Derby-Met double!!

Cannon Shell 04-04-2011 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 766100)
Well, it would obviously depend on who showed up.

If Twirling Candy, Apiority, Morning Line, Soaring Empire, Captain Candyman, Mission Impazable all entered...you would be betting The Factor and Uncle Mo?

Maybe I would too in the Cigar mile this Fall but, not in May.

Why not? Especially considering they get an extra 10 pounds as 3 yo's.

jms62 04-04-2011 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 766113)
Yeah, the first TC winner in over 30 years would definitely be worth less than the Derby-Met double!!

The fuking horse needs 4 months between starts and the first start is a gimme and you expect him to win the Triple Crown?

Indian Charlie 04-04-2011 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 766125)
The fuking horse needs 4 months between starts and the first start is a gimme and you expect him to win the Triple Crown?

No, I do not.

I expect him to win the Derby. I know he's good enough to win the Triple Crown, but I don't expect him to be in training by the time the Belmont comes around.

Doesn't change what I'm saying about him being more valuable as a TC winner vs a MM winner.

Coach Pants 04-04-2011 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 766125)
The fuking horse needs 4 months between starts and the first start is a gimme and you expect him to win the Triple Crown?

It's not out of the realm of possibility. The Florida Derby was supposedly the greatest derby prep in years and look how it ended up.

jms62 04-04-2011 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 766126)
No, I do not.

I expect him to win the Derby. I know he's good enough to win the Triple Crown, but I don't expect him to be in training by the time the Belmont comes around.

Doesn't change what I'm saying about him being more valuable as a TC winner vs a MM winner.

He should win the derby IF none of the 100 things that could go wrong during the course of the race with a field size of 20. And yes your point is spot on.

RolloTomasi 04-04-2011 06:20 PM

The Met Mile would be a great "rebound" race for either Uncle Mo or The Factor after one or both tanks in the Derby. Worked out fine for Holy Bull and Honour And Glory.

Trivia:

Name the 3yo Bob Baffert ran in the Met Mile several years ago (may have been '93). I think it was unbeaten in 4 or 5 starts at the time (he wasn't unbeaten after the race).

King Glorious 04-04-2011 11:46 PM

I grew up watching 3yos regularly compete in the Met. I remember Gulch winning it (and running all three TC races). Holy Bull, Honour and Glory, Conquistador Cielo. I know there are a few I am forgetting. It sucks getting old. I want to say Housebuster and Dixie Brass.

RolloTomasi 04-04-2011 11:56 PM

The Baffert horse was Letthebighossroll. Kyles Our Man and Cat Thief were a couple of other 3yos that tried and failed. Williamstown may have as well.

RolloTomasi 04-05-2011 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 766405)
It was mind-boggling to me that Cat Thief was, if memory serves, about 5/2 or 7/2 in that race.

Him running in the race to being with was mind-boggling, too. His stalking style seemed tailor made for the Belmont. At the very least he could have been a target for Charismatic, who ended up on the lead early (not that that would have kept his leg from coming apart or anything).

alysheba4 04-05-2011 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 766100)
Well, it would obviously depend on who showed up.

If Twirling Candy, Apiority, Morning Line, Soaring Empire, Captain Candyman, Mission Impazable all entered...you would be betting The Factor and Uncle Mo?

Maybe I would too in the Cigar mile this Fall but, not in May.

....luv the uncle. after he has his public workout this saturday, he will make 2 to 1 seem like a gift from god the 1st saturday in may.

blackthroatedwind 04-05-2011 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 766100)
If Twirling Candy, Apiority, Morning Line, Soaring Empire, Captain Candyman, Mission Impazable all entered...you would be betting The Factor and Uncle Mo?

I'm not sure I would be betting them, as they would be favored, but I don't know that I would be betting against them.

VOL JACK 04-05-2011 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 766438)
I'm not sure I would be betting them, as they would be favored, but I don't know that I would be betting against them.

I would...With both fists.:$:

VOL JACK 04-12-2011 01:33 PM

Anyone heard if Twirling Candy is still shipping in?

Or did he get scared off by that monster performance in the Wood? ;)

The Bid 04-12-2011 02:07 PM

Maybe a mile is better for Uncle Mo. That being said I don't see how any of the horses you mentioned would be up against it if they faced him in the Met. As hot as pletchers been I expected Mo to run his very best race.

The other 2yo have grown up and Mo may have just matured a little quicker early on, the Indian Charlies are generally precoscious. Let's see how the rest of his 3yo season ends up before we get crazy talking about him beating older horses when he was life and death to hold Norman Absobason, or whatever that horses name is for 3rd

VOL JACK 04-12-2011 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid (Post 768387)
Maybe a mile is better for Uncle Mo. That being said I don't see how any of the horses you mentioned would be up against it if they faced him in the Met. As hot as pletchers been I expected Mo to run his very best race.

The other 2yo have grown up and Mo may have just matured a little quicker early on, the Indian Charlies are generally precoscious. Let's see how the rest of his 3yo season ends up before we get crazy talking about him beating older horses when he was life and death to hold Norman Absobason, or whatever that horses name is for 3rd

Well said, Popeye!

outofthebox 04-14-2011 09:41 PM

Looks like Smiling Tiger may be added to the Met field. Impressive in the Count Fleet today at OP..

blackthroatedwind 04-14-2011 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outofthebox (Post 769071)
Looks like Smiling Tiger may be added to the Met field. Impressive in the Count Fleet today at OP..

His trainer said he was going after he won in CA back in February.

outofthebox 04-14-2011 10:05 PM

That's why your paid the big bucks! Always on top of things....


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:20 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.