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VOL JACK 04-02-2011 10:29 AM

What is the deal with jocks beating their spouses?
 
http://www.drf.com/news/albarado-hel...olence-charges

How could a trainer or owner put a piece of sh!+ like this on one of their horses.

Danzig 04-02-2011 10:44 AM

the same way people hire dutrow or biancone, or mullins....

too bad for the kids. why women choose bad men, stay with them when this happens, and have kids with them is beyond me.

Indian Charlie 04-02-2011 11:49 AM

Hasn't it been well established that jockeys are idiots?

As for women, Danzig, I read a theory once that women, deep down, want to be dominated.

I wouldn't go as far as saying that is universally true, but sometimes, it does seem like an accurate generalization.

GenuineRisk 04-02-2011 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 765318)
Hasn't it been well established that jockeys are idiots?

As for women, Danzig, I read a theory once that women, deep down, want to be dominated.

I wouldn't go as far as saying that is universally true, but sometimes, it does seem like an accurate generalization.

I once read a theory that men who believe women want to be dominated never get laid.

I wouldn't go so far as saying that is universally true, but sometimes, it does seem like an accurate generalization.

Scav 04-02-2011 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 765302)
http://www.drf.com/news/albarado-hel...olence-charges

How could a trainer or owner put a piece of sh!+ like this on one of their horses.

Its f'n ridiculous. There is no denying these sob's are tough guys, but I just wish they would have to go three rounds with a 6 foot dude that is a trained killer so they realize the damage they are doing.

Indian Charlie 04-02-2011 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 765322)
I once read a theory that men who believe women want to be dominated never get laid.

I wouldn't go so far as saying that is universally true, but sometimes, it does seem like an accurate generalization.

Hey, no need to get bent out of shape.

Me? I'm a personal fan of freedom of choice and people being responsible for themselves. I want nothing to do with people who either want to be dominant, or want to be dominated.

After watching idiotic behavior from both men and women for about 40 years (I am 44), that theory I mentioned above often times does seem to explain what are otherwise inexplicable choices.

Obviously, not all women make those same poor choices over and over and over, ad nauseum.

Indian Charlie 04-02-2011 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav (Post 765324)
Its f'n ridiculous. There is no denying these sob's are tough guys, but I just wish they would have to go three rounds with a 6 foot dude that is a trained killer so they realize the damage they are doing.

How about dressing them up as SF Giants fans and putting them into the bleachers with Scuds?

hoovesupsideyourhead 04-02-2011 12:07 PM

sad for the kids and wife ..hes a piece of ****..put him under the phucking jail

Scav 04-02-2011 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 765327)
How about dressing them up as SF Giants fans and putting them into the bleachers with Scuds?

This is just something that really burns my britches.

Quick story, I am one of those people that when I'm talking, my hands are flying around. I have a friend that I have known for about 6-7 years. One day I was talking with her and my hands were flying and she flinched, I thought nothing of it until she flinched again. Later that day, she pulled me aside and said "I know you like to talk with your hands, but is there anyway you can limit it when we are talking, it scares me"

She then proceeded to tell me about her past how she got hit from a boyfriend and was finally coming to grip with it and although she knew I was harmless, it stired up hard memories and that is why she was flinching.

It is so much more about the psychological part then it is the physical.

Indian Charlie 04-02-2011 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav (Post 765330)
This is just something that really burns my britches.

Quick story, I am one of those people that when I'm talking, my hands are flying around. I have a friend that I have known for about 6-7 years. One day I was talking with her and my hands were flying and she flinched, I thought nothing of it until she flinched again. Later that day, she pulled me aside and said "I know you like to talk with your hands, but is there anyway you can limit it when we are talking, it scares me"

She then proceeded to tell me about her past how she got hit from a boyfriend and was finally coming to grip with it and although she knew I was harmless, it stired up hard memories and that is why she was flinching.

It is so much more about the psychological part then it is the physical.

I totally agree about it being psychological.

mclem0822 04-02-2011 12:21 PM

I do not think this should be an opportunity to bash all jockeys, as some have taken the chance to do. The 2 recent cases if the charges are true then these 2 individuals are IDIOTS and hopefully will get what's coming to them! But they are not alone, plenty of fellow dirtbags who abuse their women and children walking around society as a whole. It's disgusting to me.
How bout a little praise for from what i can gather is a fine example of a family man in Ramon Dominguez. Let's just hope this recent couple of cases are not a trend that continues.

Princess Doreen 04-02-2011 12:38 PM

Not that it's any excuse, but I hear tell that Mrs. Albarado is no day at the beach, and trouble has been ongoing in that household for a long time. I'm willing to bet she got her licks in, as well, in that scuffle.

Simple resolution. D*I*V*O*R*C*E But, maybe it's one of those love/hate sitcheashuns.

Danzig 04-02-2011 12:49 PM

well, in that case doreen, i guess she had it coming. :rolleyes:

like i said above, too bad for the kids.

Princess Doreen 04-02-2011 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 765344)
well, in that case doreen, i guess she had it coming. :rolleyes:

like i said above, too bad for the kids.

Selective reading on your part. Did you miss my writing, "Not that it's any excuse..."?

He broke her cell phone, so who knows who struck the first blow. Women take big chances resorting to hand to hand combat with men.

I'd venture to say that this is going to blow over with no charges against RA.

But, I'm sure you'll find fault with anything I post - much as you do anytime I do. :rolleyes:

somerfrost 04-02-2011 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 765349)
Selective reading on your part. Did you miss my writing, "Not that it's any excuse..."?

He broke her cell phone, so who knows who struck the first blow. Women take big chances resorting to hand to hand combat with men.

I'd venture to say that this is going to blow over with no charges against RA.

But, I'm sure you'll find fault with anything I post - much as you do anytime I do. :rolleyes:

Obviously, this is a cultural thing...domestic violence seems counter-intuitive to me, folks supposedly come together out of love...if you really love someone, hurting them should be the last thing you'd ever do. This, "I love you but if you do something that angers me, I gotta hurt (or worse) you" just is something I've never been able to comprehend.

Coach Pants 04-02-2011 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav (Post 765330)
This is just something that really burns my britches.

Quick story, I am one of those people that when I'm talking, my hands are flying around. I have a friend that I have known for about 6-7 years. One day I was talking with her and my hands were flying and she flinched, I thought nothing of it until she flinched again. Later that day, she pulled me aside and said "I know you like to talk with your hands, but is there anyway you can limit it when we are talking, it scares me"

She then proceeded to tell me about her past how she got hit from a boyfriend and was finally coming to grip with it and although she knew I was harmless, it stired up hard memories and that is why she was flinching.

It is so much more about the psychological part then it is the physical.

I would tell her I'd do it if she worked on one of her flaws. See how that b.itch likes being told.

Thoroughbred Fan 04-02-2011 02:02 PM

I be willing to bet that in 90%+ of the cases alcohol or drugs are involved. Those things cloud judgement, but it still has to be in a person to do it.

Coach Pants 04-02-2011 02:03 PM

I think the bayou way of living has a lot to do with this. Plus you have to be a little off your rocker to be a jockey.

my miss storm cat 04-02-2011 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 765344)
well, in that case doreen, i guess she had it coming. :rolleyes:

like i said above, too bad for the kids.

I debated even saying anything here cause I was afraid I'd overtalk if that's a word but I want to just point out that that's not what Doreen was saying. Not in a mean or bitchy way... it's just I know exactly what she meant.

I'm 5'1", my ex was 6'2" so when he hit me (occassionally) and beat me (twice and this is so not a pity party. Honestly I should send him a thank you note for leaving me years ago although at the time it was really really hard)... being educated and having 2 small children, etc., I did exactly what a lot of women do.

Nothing.

I didn't tell anyone.

Looking back I have no idea why this was my mindset but at the time? Maybe it's embarrassment or you feel in some sick way you deserve it... you're afraid if someone finds out he'll get you back, it'll make things worse... I mean I honestly don't understand myself but that was my reality. Keep my mouth shut.

The second time he really beat me where it was pretty bad I was driving and went to the ER cause I felt like I was going to pass out. I didn't kow what else to do... my kids were little and in the car and I didn't want to call anyone.

I didn't know that if you tell a doctor by law they have to tell the cops.

So that's what happened and it was long and drawn out, he went to court, restraining order, etc and on and on.

Honestly, looking back and being totally honest there were times I probably - not had it coming but made it even worse.

He'd say that's how mad I made him... basically his actions were my fault (idiot) and while this is complete bullshit I'm sure there were times I made it worse, added to it, got disgusted and acte like a complete bitch, made him even more mad...

To be fair, I think this is what Doreen means.

Of course his wife doesn't deserve this - none of us do - but she's probably not Mother Teresa and neither am I and we'e not all meek little flowers who can't imagine why these monsters are doing this to us when were 100 percent innocent.

Maybe she's a difficult person or a complete bitch or whatever... Doreen was just throwing that into the equation and I really do see her point.

It doesn't mean she had it coming.

Scav 04-02-2011 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 765353)
Obviously, this is a cultural thing...domestic violence seems counter-intuitive to me, folks supposedly come together out of love...if you really love someone, hurting them should be the last thing you'd ever do. This, "I love you but if you do something that angers me, I gotta hurt (or worse) you" just is something I've never been able to comprehend.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 765341)
Not that it's any excuse, but I hear tell that Mrs. Albarado is no day at the beach, and trouble has been ongoing in that household for a long time. I'm willing to bet she got her licks in, as well, in that scuffle.

Simple resolution. D*I*V*O*R*C*E But, maybe it's one of those love/hate sitcheashuns.


You two would make a great couple. You guys are beyond priceless

Princess Doreen 04-02-2011 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav (Post 765377)
You two would make a great couple. You guys are beyond priceless


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x-fkSYDtUY

Sightseek 04-02-2011 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 765322)
I once read a theory that men who believe women want to be dominated never get laid.

I wouldn't go so far as saying that is universally true, but sometimes, it does seem like an accurate generalization.

You go girl! :tro:

Sightseek 04-02-2011 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 765372)
I debated even saying anything here cause I was afraid I'd overtalk if that's a word but I want to just point out that that's not what Doreen was saying. Not in a mean or bitchy way... it's just I know exactly what she meant.

I'm 5'1", my ex was 6'2" so when he hit me (occassionally) and beat me (twice and this is so not a pity party. Honestly I should send him a thank you note for leaving me years ago although at the time it was really really hard)... being educated and having 2 small children, etc., I did exactly what a lot of women do.

Nothing.

I didn't tell anyone.

Looking back I have no idea why this was my mindset but at the time? Maybe it's embarrassment or you feel in some sick way you deserve it... you're afraid if someone finds out he'll get you back, it'll make things worse... I mean I honestly don't understand myself but that was my reality. Keep my mouth shut.

The second time he really beat me where it was pretty bad I was driving and went to the ER cause I felt like I was going to pass out. I didn't kow what else to do... my kids were little and in the car and I didn't want to call anyone.

I didn't know that if you tell a doctor by law they have to tell the cops.

So that's what happened and it was long and drawn out, he went to court, restraining order, etc and on and on.

Honestly, looking back and being totally honest there were times I probably - not had it coming but made it even worse.

He'd say that's how mad I made him... basically his actions were my fault (idiot) and while this is complete bullshit I'm sure there were times I made it worse, added to it, got disgusted and acte like a complete bitch, made him even more mad...

To be fair, I think this is what Doreen means.

Of course his wife doesn't deserve this - none of us do - but she's probably not Mother Teresa and neither am I and we'e not all meek little flowers who can't imagine why these monsters are doing this to us when were 100 percent innocent.

Maybe she's a difficult person or a complete bitch or whatever... Doreen was just throwing that into the equation and I really do see her point.

It doesn't mean she had it coming.

I'm really sorry you had to go through this.

Danzig 04-02-2011 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 765349)
Selective reading on your part. Did you miss my writing, "Not that it's any excuse..."?

He broke her cell phone, so who knows who struck the first blow. Women take big chances resorting to hand to hand combat with men.

I'd venture to say that this is going to blow over with no charges against RA.

But, I'm sure you'll find fault with anything I post - much as you do anytime I do. :rolleyes:


i read what you wrote.


Not that it's any excuse, but is what you had there.... prefacing an excuse with saying 'not that it is any' is still an excuse for poor behavior. as i said above, twice, i feel for the kids as their parents have put them in a bad situation. poor behavior from one adult and his behavior, and from the other in remaining for more.

as for the rest, i don't keep track of how often i agree or disagree with posters. but since you seem to be keeping score, i guess you can illustrate in detail how often i 'find fault' when you post. i'd imagine reality is nowhere near your imagination on that score tho.

Danzig 04-02-2011 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 765372)
I debated even saying anything here cause I was afraid I'd overtalk if that's a word but I want to just point out that that's not what Doreen was saying. Not in a mean or bitchy way... it's just I know exactly what she meant.

I'm 5'1", my ex was 6'2" so when he hit me (occassionally) and beat me (twice and this is so not a pity party. Honestly I should send him a thank you note for leaving me years ago although at the time it was really really hard)... being educated and having 2 small children, etc., I did exactly what a lot of women do.

Nothing.

I didn't tell anyone.

Looking back I have no idea why this was my mindset but at the time? Maybe it's embarrassment or you feel in some sick way you deserve it... you're afraid if someone finds out he'll get you back, it'll make things worse... I mean I honestly don't understand myself but that was my reality. Keep my mouth shut.

The second time he really beat me where it was pretty bad I was driving and went to the ER cause I felt like I was going to pass out. I didn't kow what else to do... my kids were little and in the car and I didn't want to call anyone.

I didn't know that if you tell a doctor by law they have to tell the cops.

So that's what happened and it was long and drawn out, he went to court, restraining order, etc and on and on.

Honestly, looking back and being totally honest there were times I probably - not had it coming but made it even worse.

He'd say that's how mad I made him... basically his actions were my fault (idiot) and while this is complete bullshit I'm sure there were times I made it worse, added to it, got disgusted and acte like a complete bitch, made him even more mad...

To be fair, I think this is what Doreen means.

Of course his wife doesn't deserve this - none of us do - but she's probably not Mother Teresa and neither am I and we'e not all meek little flowers who can't imagine why these monsters are doing this to us when were 100 percent innocent.

Maybe she's a difficult person or a complete bitch or whatever... Doreen was just throwing that into the equation and I really do see her point.

It doesn't mean she had it coming.


i echo sightseek in saying that's a rough thing to go thru. i know there are relationships that many would find 'odd'...but i can't ever imagine anyone 'deserving' a beating from their own spouse, or anyone for that matter. but perhaps beaters are pretty good at finding someone who fits their mold? i don't know.
at any rate, there's no excuse for it. robby's wife shouldn't be in that position, he shouldn't put her there-or be strangling his wife, and kids there to see it. sick, sick, sick. i don't care how big of a bitch she might be, if it's that bad, leave. staying will do many things, making it better not being one of them.

Princess Doreen 04-02-2011 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 765488)
i read what you wrote.


Not that it's any excuse, but is what you had there.... prefacing an excuse with saying 'not that it is any' is still an excuse for poor behavior. as i said above, twice, i feel for the kids as their parents have put them in a bad situation. poor behavior from one adult and his behavior, and from the other in remaining for more.

as for the rest, i don't keep track of how often i agree or disagree with posters. but since you seem to be keeping score, i guess you can illustrate in detail how often i 'find fault' when you post. i'd imagine reality is nowhere near your imagination on that score tho.

You just proved my point by this response.

I can readily understand how you don't keep track.

Danzig 04-02-2011 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 765511)
You just proved my point by this response.

I can readily understand how you don't keep track.


well, i am so glad to know that. i'll sleep better tonight knowing that i proved your point.

2MinsToPost 04-03-2011 09:41 PM

The memories of watching that as a child never go away. Very diffucult to deal with as an adult, sadly many delve into addiction and then repeat the behavior that they were exposed to as a child. Here is hoping those kids get the necessary help.

Clip-Clop 04-05-2011 09:41 AM

Karma catches up, dangerous sport these guys are in.


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