Ramon Suspended
 

For his Dubai ride on Gio Ponti. His ride was atrocious. 2 days is a gift. Clement should show him the door for that kind of ride in a 10mil race.

http://www.drf.com/news/dominguez-su...gio-ponti-ride

Did not notice the incident, but the blame should go to Clement for assigning him the mount in the first place.

Maybe Dominguez should show Clement the door for failing to get Gio Ponti the prep race he kept promising for 2.5 months..

Yeah, because Dominguez is such a terrible rider, any owner would be crazy to give him top mounts. :rolleyes:

No, you don't understand. Someone who admittedly follows SoCal racing more often is perfectly qualified to tell us that Ramon sucks because he only has 1 BC win and is 0 for the Triple Crown. Those of us who watch NY racing every day are foolish to think he's anything more than a B list rider.

give me a break, gio ponte and fly down had no shot against those horses...dominguez was loyal to even bother showing up.

I thought the same thing.:tro:

Gio Ponti had a wide trip and was uncovered the whole way.

If he had drew better and Ramon could have covered him and let him out at the last possible second...it would have been a different finish.

He looked like a winner at the 8th pole and then did his best hang job of his career.
There is just no telling how much :$: and G1 wins he would have if he wasn't such a quirky horse once he hits the lead.
If the paid out at the 8t pole...he would easily be the richest runner in history.
It's sad that he pulls himself up every race because he is probably the best turf horse we have seen in the US in a long time.

Can you imagine if there had been pace in either ( or both ) of the World Cups Gio Ponti raced in? He would have won both races if there was a fair pace.

Sorry to rain on the parade of the board intelligentsia.

That's odd, he wasn't suspended because of a lack of pace in the race.

That's some serious funny sh*t there.

Each your heart out English Channel.

He would toy with English Channel at any distance.....on a good to firm turf course. Especially at 8 or 9 furlongs...(9f being EC's best trip).

Sure he would:rolleyes:

He would have been in the exacta each time at worst. Victoire Pisa ran a huge race on Saturday only because of that backstretch move that he used to go from last to first.

Bottom line is there was no shame in the races he has run over there, especially with no prep this year. Ramon being suspended because of the ride takes nothing away from the race he ran this year.

Loyal? it must be tough to drop out on some 25k claimers in NYRA to run in a 10million dollar race. His 5th place finish pay out is equal to winning a 500k race or in Ramon's case winning 15 claiming races.

No Shame? No prep? That's shame enough. Clement handed Ramon a gun with no bullets. Shame,shame,shame.

Come on ;)

That was my thinking.

Ramon must be riding in a ton of claiming races to be the second leading money earning jockey thus far this year. It must be some trick to do that with all those claimers and not even be in the top five in number of starts. You do realize that Dominguez could ride at Gulfstream Park (or even your beloved California tracks) and get plenty of mounts if he wanted to but stays in NY to be with his family?

Do you even think before you type? Oh, I know, it is an east coast/west coast thing. Everything you put on this board is pure comedy, please keep us entertained.

Yeah but it's not like we're talking about Angel Cordero Jr.

He's basically a giant grizzly bear hibernating in a smelly cave. It's tough to defend that.

What significant race has he won this year? Just look at AQU standings and note the competition he is pounding. I really wish he would come to So Cal and go head to head with Rosario, Gomez, Bejarano, PVal, Gulfstream with Johnny V and Castellano, Leparoux, and Keeneland with the same and take his talents on the road but he is in a comfort zone and enjoys the money he is earning on claiming races. When I think of great jockeys , I think of Chris McCarron, Jerry Bailey, Pat Day, Laffit Pincay and Ramon does not come near that level of greatness. Please continue to exagerate...

He has won all but one of the NY riding titles over the last couple of years over most of the riders you named.

But don't let that interupt your non-stop stupidity.

Once again you manage to top yourself. I suppose he hasn't gone head to head with the toughest colonies in the U.S. when he rides at Belmont and Saratoga. I suppose that his 3rd in the Saratoga standings against the toughest riding colony in the country last year and winning the Saratoga title in 2009 doesn't demonstrate that he can handle himself in any riding colony. I assure you he doesn't get the mounts to place that way in Saratoga because he is a bad rider.

I don't have the time right now to look up what signifacant races he has won this year, but I assure you he will win plenty of Grade I's before the year is out. If you were paying any attention he has run in plenty of big stakes and held his own at Gulfstream this winter. He should be commended for not uprooting his family and riding through the sh.tty winter we have had here in New York so he can be with his family.

You really need to get over your California is the best racing in the country B.S. There is great racing all over the country, I enjoy racing in New York, California, Kentucy, Florida, Arkansas, Louisiana and plenty of other places throughout the year. You may want to watch Dominguez ride a little bit, you just might see that he is a terrific rider. Oh, and Aqueduct is not only a great track IMO to take in some racing, the betting over the winter is terrific, it has its chalky days as any track does, but you can profit damn well as many live longshots can be had.

He should be commended for not wearing the pants of the family? Ok.

The majority of derby contenders with northeast connections have traditionally been located in south Florida during the winter. His selfish wife needs to realize the odds of any of their kids making the kind of scratch and having the success of their father are extremely minimal and moving the kids south during the winter could actually be beneficial instead of detrimental.


He is going to always have the "what if" label because he refused to compete at the top level year round. Sorry if I'm not impressed that he beats punk a.ss Jose Valdivia Jr. in a 4 horse race. Boy that was an impressive win today. :rolleyes:

I disagree Coach. I am admittedly not the best historian, but I believe that Cordero did it a number of winters and some other big jocks as well. He has earned more in purses at Aqueduct than the leading rider at Gulfstream this winter. Sure, the colony is tougher in Florida, but there is something to be said for a family guy that is focused on the game. Just think of what PVal could have been.

You'll get no arguement from me that he's beating a very weak colony in NY all winter. This year might have been the worst I have seen in a long time.

That said, Dominguez has traveled a majority of the weekends riding Derby contenders and other stakes horses. Plus, he still dominates when everyone comes back to NY. I think eventually you'll see him go down to Florida for the winter. But it doesn't change what he does the other 8 months of the year against the best colony around.

There is no doubt that he is talented but I like to see him step up in competition. Yes, he did win 3 stakes at tampa bay this year on tampa bay derby preview day but he was 0 for 6 as odds on favorites on each race ON tampa bay derby day. He has had the "worst luck" when the money is on the line but when it comes to winning 5 claimers at AQU a day, he goes to being the best jock in the country...how? I never said california is the best racing but it sure beats the racing colony at AQU right now HANDS DOWN! The jockey title he won at saratoga in 2009 was not by accumulating stakes wins...5 jockeys raked up more stakes wins than he did that meet. I am still not convinced of his greatness.

You can't let your stupidity rest, you insist on burying it.

Ah yes. the "I cant come up with a rebuttal to your argument so I call you stupid" response. Lets just end this flame war. agreed?

Instead of the tired smart-as.sed one liners refute it. I won't to see how old you are. Let's compare it to the 60's or 70's so the people on here wearing depends can feel right over my slight misuse of the word "traditionally"

Hoss...

He's a great rider. It's just frustrating as a gambler and fan of the sport to see elite riders take the easy way out. Aqueduct inner should be for guys like Valdivia Jr. who has proven to be mediocre for all of his career.

Just for arguements sake, which favorite that he rode on Tampa Derby Day lost as a result of his ride? I'm also interested in a list of 5 jocks who you feel ride better than Dominguez does on a daily basis.

I am not talking about on a daily basis. I am talking about he showing up on days when the money is on the line and in those races he is competing against Gomez, Velasquez, Leparoux, Bejarano, Rosario, Castellano, Allan Garcia, P Val, Mike Smith, Desourmaux, Prado, Espinoza, Albarado etc . Each of those riders, have a resume much better than Ramon and most have achieved greater success than him in thier career, agreed?. If you want to compare him to other good jocks who win multiple times on claimers on a daily basis, please add russell baze and clinton potts to the conversation, the only difference is Ramon has more oppurtunities to race in big events.

In regards to his Tampa Bay derby flop of 0 for 6 as odds on favorites, they were all bad horses, on thier bad days. Thats the explanation you were looking for right?

No we don't agree on either part. Half of the names you listed have ridden longer than he has by 10 years or more. When Dominguez is Prado or Mike Smith's age, what do you think his resume is going to look like?

I just wish people like you bet more. Ask a simple question, get a stupid answer. I should know better.

Hence why I stopped trying to explain it to him, it just doesn't seem to sink in.

Just becuase a jockey has won a big race (i.e. Kentucky Derby), doesn't automatically make them a good jockey. Example Stewart Elliot (or maybe he's part of the etc on your list). Dominguez is better than several guys on that list, reguardless of the number of big races he has under his belt. It's unfortunate that he hasn't been blessed by that special horse like some of the guys that you put on that list. Ramon's best days are still ahead of him.

Please tell me that you meant to put John Velazquez on the list and not Cornelio Velasquez? Because if it is right then I'm waving the :wf and tapping out right now.