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booner 03-29-2011 08:20 AM

Calabrese/Canani to stay in Florida
 
http://www.drf.com/news/owner-calabr...florida-summer

Will this decrease the amount of 3/5 shots running at AP this year?

Cannon Shell 03-29-2011 08:23 AM

A bonus side effect from the disastrous 2010 meet at AP and failure to get a slots bill passed

dellinger63 03-29-2011 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 764140)
A bonus side effect from the disastrous 2010 meet at AP and failure to get a slots bill passed

the slots bill should have never been coupled with legalizing video poker and numerous casino licenses. Had it been allowed to go alone it would have passed. IMO AP has evolved into the Wrigley field of horseracing as it's no longer about the product on the field or track but rather all about the party. AP on nice weekends might as well be Kiddie Land.

randallscott35 03-29-2011 08:41 AM

Reminds me of Donnie Brasco's guys in Florida.

dellinger63 03-29-2011 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 764146)
Reminds me of Donnie Brasco's guys in Florida.

if you only knew the story behind 'these guys' they are as opposite to Brasco's guys as they come.

NTamm1215 03-29-2011 08:49 AM

So the Frank Calabrese winner's circle ass grab has moved to Fla full-time? Nice. Makes AP more bettable.

The Indomitable DrugS 03-29-2011 08:55 AM

If he's so worried about the bottom line and making a profit ... wouldn't Calder be a poor option?

Even dopey Gill eventually figured out that Pennsylvania is the right place to go when you don't have truly top horses.

dellinger63 03-29-2011 09:26 AM

for Frank I think it's all about the tan........

Scav 03-29-2011 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 764155)
If he's so worried about the bottom line and making a profit ... wouldn't Calder be a poor option?

Even dopey Gill eventually figured out that Pennsylvania is the right place to go when you don't have truly top horses.

Making a profit is far from the truth. Word is that he has taken the new rule personally because he would always win those 5-6 horse fields.

Arlington will be better for it. Although I'm guessing that Jamie Ness might swoop in now since he already has a stable at Hawthorne, but has never come to Arlington.

dellinger63 03-29-2011 09:41 AM

Frank Kirby, I'm sure, is smiling

Coach Pants 03-29-2011 09:41 AM

He shouldn't.

dellinger63 03-29-2011 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 764174)
He shouldn't.

when you're married to a billionaire I guess you should always be smiling

freddymo 03-29-2011 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 764168)
Making a profit is far from the truth. Word is that he has taken the new rule personally because he would always win those 5-6 horse fields.

Arlington will be better for it. Although I'm guessing that Jamie Ness might swoop in now since he already has a stable at Hawthorne, but has never come to Arlington.

Why doesn't he ship to NY or Parx if he is so worried about making a profit? His better stock could race at Belmont and the other stuff could try Parx and Penn? Doesn't Mr. C's product ship well?

Scav 03-29-2011 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 764184)
Why doesn't he ship to NY or Parx if he is so worried about making a profit? His better stock could race at Belmont and the other stuff could try Parx and Penn? Doesn't Mr. C's product ship well?

Stalls are impossible at Parx, although I would assume that a guy that runs like him would be welcomed with open arms, they would probably build a barn for him with the way the fields have been lately.

I could only imagine the Juan Carlos Guerrero/Nick Canani showdown, it could be priceless.

satan's twin 03-29-2011 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 764163)
for Frank I think it's all about the tan........


For Frank, it's all about the man.....or men. Good riddance to that wrinkled liver spot and the rest of his lavender mafia. With this move, Illinois racing has made a quantumn leap forward from "totally horrendous " to "very irrelevant".

blackthroatedwind 03-29-2011 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by satan's twin (Post 764232)
a quantumn leap forward from "totally horrendous " to "very irrelevant".

Isn't that what we're all striving for?

MISTERGEE 03-29-2011 01:33 PM

does this signal the end of betting at CRC, and horsemen making a living there?

pba1817 03-29-2011 03:29 PM

Why would Arlington rake 15% off of fields shorter than 6?

Isn't the track responsible for offering purses/conditions that are attractive to owners/trainers to enter their horses?

Or, did Arlington institute this rule because they feel Calabrese was hindering field sizes?

Scav 03-29-2011 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pba1817 (Post 764389)
Why would Arlington rake 15% off of fields shorter than 6?

Isn't the track responsible for offering purses/conditions that are attractive to owners/trainers to enter their horses?

Or, did Arlington institute this rule because they feel Calabrese was hindering field sizes?

They are trying something to see if it works, and reviewing it in 45 days, and then they are probably just gonna cut purses. My assumption

Scav 03-29-2011 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MISTERGEE (Post 764282)
does this signal the end of betting at CRC, and horsemen making a living there?

No and no. You will become very aware when they are gonna win and when they aren't

MISTERGEE 03-29-2011 04:40 PM

thanks for the encouragement, any hints?

-BT- 03-30-2011 08:10 AM

not a calder bettor at all, but i might have to start this season.

not sure where i where i can get my bedazzled dragon shirt winner circle pics anywhere else

-bt-


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