French jets protecting Libyan rebels
 

French jets were seen defending rebel positions, reports of at least one government jet shot down, the no fly element of international response has begun. I find it very significant that the French are the first to have jets in the sky over Libya. Italian government (the biggest purchaser of Libyan oil) has provided bases for UN planes. It looks like an actual international effort!

American cruise missiles launched against government anti-aircraft locations, French jets destroy government tank, said to be firing on other ground forces.

CNN reporting 110 US missiles fired, most from US subs and destroyers.

Gadhafi allegedly is about to make a statement...

"I will die defending the people of Libya against foreign aggression" or something like that. Yawn.....

hope we didnt wait too long to intervene. article i read in todays paper said many protesters have already given up. guess we will see....

nothing like French jets and American missiles to change despair to joy.

He said, and I quote:



"Infidels,you cross this line of death...you die.


..OK, this is a new line of death,you cross it and you die."

What is the point of posting an article from 1986 here? Different time, different issues, different dynamics.

British jets have now joined in the attack.

My family has joined in the attack. We're attacking the Libyan army with our minds.

*concentrates*

*pew pew pew*

"Derka allahu ak..ghrhrhungh!"

*pew pew pew*

"Allaaaahhhowww!"

*pew pew pew*

"Jihaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!"

*pew pew pew*

*ah-la-la-la-la-la-laaaarhghgh*

*pew pew pew*

"This is Wolf Blitzerrhghhh!"

LOL! Government forces seen running away in terror!

Was hopeful that we could have "Democratic" Muslims help Muslims that want Democracy. Turkey should of done that. It was totally in line with that leader's rhetoric about Egypt etc., but this article points out why he's being a hypocrite (it's $$) in this situation.


http://www.businessinsider.com/turke...-policy-2011-3

This is the same guy that offered to do this (what we're having to now do) if the E.U. would let Turkey in as a full member. For Gaza Muslims, he cares deeply. For people fighting for Democracy in Libya? He would of let Qaddafi slaughter them.

oh how the times have changed :rolleyes:

Trying to strike a personal note, Gaddafi prefaced his letter saying, “To our son, his excellency, Mr Barack Hussein Obama. I have said to you before, that even if Libya and the United States of America enter into a war, god forbid, you will always remain a son. Your picture will not be changed.”





"Barack - I'm your father"

It amazes me that some folks will (a) believe anything that caters to their prejudices and (b) beat a dead issue into the ground.

"This is the new line of death...you cross this line and you die."

19 US planes striking targets in Libya, no fly zone now securely in place. French, British, American, Spanish, Italian forces now involved along with planes from Qatar (sp?).

what are you talking about?

you make zero sense
oh wait
you bring prejudice into everything you read

nevermind

each according to his means yadda yadda

Wow, for a second I thought you were talking about yourself.

President Obama was very clear minutes ago in his remarks from Chili, the US is part of the international force to enforce the UN resolution to protect the citizens of Libya, the US position is that Gadhafi must go! Very forceful remarks!

and why is the US meddling in this affair?

Meddling?? Maybe because preventing genocide is a belief that we share with most of the world.

Then the rest of the world is inconsistent in this "belief".

I am sad to say that I was completely wrong about Obama.

Except when it's muslim genocide against Israel.

Very few nations support that, those who do have a major problem...Israel is far from a defenseless nation and they have quite a few friends.

So you were against meddling in Bosnia?

Every time Israel defends themselves the world goes into an uproar. Where exactly was this "genocide" in Libya? The minute the media started referring to the "rebels" as "civilians" it was obvious what was coming next. If there were an uprising in this country would it be squashed by the Govt? Would the rest of the World be telling Obama to show restraint? Would France be bombing the American military to prevent the deaths of "civilians"?

There has been Genocide occurring in Sudan for 20 years. No one seems to care about that.

If there wasn't a drop of oil in that country then we wouldn't be there. There is "genocide" going on in other parts of the world. Parts that don't have oil.

What are we doing for those people? Not a god-damned thing.

:tro:

This Administration would rather KILL than DRILL.

are you saying this is just like Bosnia

I never heard this referred to as Genocide
I thought he was killing his own people not some other race

Who are these people? The Muslim Brotherhood?

He was killing rebels. Innocent people die in every war.

Genocide is generally applied to the systematic destruction/killing of a certain group of people, Gadhafi has repeated said he will show no mercy to those who oppose his rule. There is evidence that his goon squads have fired into groups of civilians and this would surely be a slaughter were they to gain control of areas of Libya under control of rebels. Also, to be clear, this started as a peaceful movement on the part of Libyan citizens seeking basic human rights, it was Gadhafi who initiated the violence, those referred to as "rebels" are mostly innocent civilians forced to defend themselves, most are not trained in even the use of firearms etc. They are not "rebels" as we often think of them.

I am saying that NATO forces successfully maintained a no fly zone with very few losses that resulted in a fairly positive end.

The idea that there must be genocide to qualify for international support is interesting.

What does qualify for international support? I don't think the US needs to be in the business of nation building and there is really no justification for US intervention.

Many of us care deeply about the horrors in places like the Sudan and throughout Africa, the US has spoken out against these crimes but without support from the rest of the world, any attempts by us to stop them is seen as aggression. It is confusing when on the one hand people are critical of the President for taking part in this UN resolution and at the same time are critical of the US failure to act in other places...it seems only fair to ask, do you want us to get involved everywhere, nowhere or what??