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somerfrost 03-18-2011 01:48 PM

President formally announces no-fly zone
 
In a news conference a few minutes ago, President Obama formally announced that the US would have a "leadership role" in enforcing UN sanctions against the Lybian dictator to include a no-fly zone. I agree with this action as long as France, England and the Arab League take part as promised. Many Arab League countries have significant air forces, they want this action so they must assume responsibility with planes and funding.

MaTH716 03-18-2011 01:55 PM

Whoa, you mean he actually broke away from the tournament and his brackets to have an actual news conference. :rolleyes:

somerfrost 03-18-2011 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 761548)
Whoa, you mean he actually broke away from the tournament and his brackets to have an actual news conference. :rolleyes:

Second one in two days, in case you haven't noticed, he got a slight set of issues in Japan on his plate along with problems in Bahrain, issues with Saudi Arabia and UAE as well as dealing with Congress etc.

Coach Pants 03-18-2011 02:07 PM

Is the Justice League of America supporting this? If not, I cannot support this.

Justice League > Arab League.

MaTH716 03-18-2011 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 761550)
Second one in two days, in case you haven't noticed, he got a slight set of issues in Japan on his plate along with problems in Bahrain, issues with Saudi Arabia and UAE as well as dealing with Congress etc.

Wow, I haven't. I didn't even realize anything happened in Japan until he mentioned it before breaking down the women's tourney.
:rolleyes: :zz:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/tourna...ory?id=6232133

3kings 03-18-2011 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 761550)
Second one in two days, in case you haven't noticed, he got a slight set of issues in Japan on his plate along with problems in Bahrain, issues with Saudi Arabia and UAE as well as dealing with Congress etc.

Exactly, why is he filling out brackets on national TV? Do you think that looks disrespectful to all the nations under siege? A womens bracket too. I didn't even know that tournament was about to start.

somerfrost 03-18-2011 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 761564)
Exactly, why is he filling out brackets on national TV? Do you think that looks disrespectful to all the nations under siege? A womens bracket too. I didn't even know that tournament was about to start.

No, I think even the President has a right to be a sports fan, of course there are many who will find fault with him no matter what so posts like that are predictable.

herkhorse 03-18-2011 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 761570)
No, I think even the President has a right to be a sports fan, of course there are many who will find fault with him no matter what so posts like that are predictable.

Even I feel a bit awkward playing races and watching basketball in the face of what is happening in the world right now. The President should suck it up and, I don't know, maybe try to be a leader or something. The fact that past Presidents have been just as lame is no excuse. He was elected for change and it's the same bullshyt. There are more than enough PG1985's out there to take care of the sports world.

somerfrost 03-18-2011 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse (Post 761572)
Even I feel a bit awkward playing races and watching basketball in the face of what is happening in the world right now. The President should suck it up and, I don't know, maybe try to be a leader or something. The fact that past Presidents have been just as lame is no excuse. He was elected for change and it's the same bullshyt. There are more than enough PG1985's out there to take care of the sports world.

See post #7

herkhorse 03-18-2011 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 761574)
See post #7

It ain't me babe.

MaTH716 03-18-2011 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 761570)
No, I think even the President has a right to be a sports fan, of course there are many who will find fault with him no matter what so posts like that are predictable.

I don't have a problem with him being a sports fan, I actually think that great (even though he is a fraud in that sense too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPUhulaRzpU about .29 secs in)

Why in the world does he think (or ESPN for that matter), that anyone cares on who he thinks is going to win the Men's or Woman's tourneys? Shame on ESPN for even giving him the platform to do it. How about he does a segment /breakdown on what he is going to do to prevent oil from staying at $100 a barrel. That might have been a bit more informative and productive then his little ESPN charade.

You said it, the guy has a few things on his plate right now.

somerfrost 03-18-2011 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse (Post 761576)
It ain't me babe.

Ah, quoting a Dylan song....hope springs eternal, lol

Coach Pants 03-18-2011 03:05 PM

The less real work he does the better. Where is his NIT bracket?

somerfrost 03-18-2011 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 761577)
I don't have a problem with him being a sports fan, I actually think that great (even though he is a fraud in that sense too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPUhulaRzpU about .29 secs in)

Why in the world does he think (or ESPN for that matter), that anyone cares on who he thinks is going to win the Men's or Woman's tourneys? Shame on ESPN for even giving him the platform to do it. How about he does a segment /breakdown on what he is going to do to prevent oil from staying at $100 a barrel. That might have been a bit more informative and productive then his little ESPN charade.

You said it, the guy has a few things on his plate right now.

I actually agree that too much emphasis is placed on sports in this dangerous age. Regarding ESPN...well they gave James an entire program to announce he was taking his skills to Southbeach.

3kings 03-18-2011 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 761574)
See post #7

Pot meet kettle. Others find no fault with what the president does no matter what. Why do Obama supporters take it as a personal attack whenever someone disagrees with something he has done, that they don't agree with. I have no problem with him being a sports fan, in fact I find it refreshing. I thought it was poor taste to be doing brackets with what is going on in Japan particularly.

MaTH716 03-18-2011 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 761580)
I actually agree that too much emphasis is placed on sports in this dangerous age. Regarding ESPN...well they gave James an entire program to announce he was taking his skills to Southbeach.

I don't blame ESPN for that. It's not like Lebron is the Secretary of State.

It's Apples and Oranges.

somerfrost 03-18-2011 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 761581)
Pot meet kettle. Others find no fault with what the president does no matter what. Why do Obama supporters take it as a personal attack whenever someone disagrees with something he has done, that they don't agree with. I have no problem with him being a sports fan, in fact I find it refreshing. I thought it was poor taste to be doing brackets with what is going on in Japan particularly.

It's not like I'm a huge supporter of President Obama's politics, as I've said before, he's way to conservative for me. It's just that the level of pure hatred that is directed his way is disconcerting....issues with his policies are one thing, a thread critical of his basketball brackets, wording of his speeches etc etc becomes way past trite at some point. I am more concerned with his failure to support unions for example. As President, he must balance a lot...he was known as a huge basketball fan long before he was elected, it's hardly a surprise that he shows interest now. On the surface it may seem trivial to some but this constant Obama-bashing creates a climate unhealthy to this nation.

Riot 03-18-2011 03:29 PM

George W spent 487 days at Camp David, and 490 days - including 10 days in a row of vacation - "clearing brush" at his Crawford ranch during his presidency.

Filling out a bracket - big deal. Many Presidents were into sports, and did the same type of thing.

Coach Pants 03-18-2011 03:48 PM

Obama already has over 60 rounds of golf.

Big deal.

Dahoss 03-18-2011 04:14 PM

The great thing about sports is it has always been an escape from the real terrible things like earthquakes, tsunami's, etc. I don't think it was Obama's idea to do the brackets on ESPN, but I don't see the problem.

I don't care who he picks, but someone must, or they wouldn't have him do it every year. What happened and what is ongoing in Japan is terrible. But, not to be too harsh, life goes on. I'm sure he's dealing with the Japan stuff and everything else going on. Taking out a few minutes to do a few brackets doesn't seem like a big deal to me and I would say that regardless of who is in office.

jms62 03-18-2011 05:22 PM

3 Different wars... Where is the fuking logic to that? Why must we be the worlds savior when they Sh*t all over us? I voted for him becuase I hated what the Republican thieves had become. It won't happen next round.

ps.

Unless its va. Sarah "PILF" Palin

Cannon Shell 03-18-2011 05:46 PM

Filling out a Womans bracket is simply indefensible.

jms62 03-18-2011 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 761626)
Filling out a Womans bracket is simply indefensible.


Im not smart enough to get this joke.

SCUDSBROTHER 03-18-2011 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 761564)
A womens bracket too.

This part is indeed disco certain. He really did that? That's one step up from watching bugs fight.

Coach Pants 03-18-2011 11:01 PM

It's a little different than Congress. You have to be accountable as President. You can't be given an issue and instead of saying yes or no you punk out and say "PRESENT!" like some retarded teenager during home room roll call.

SOREHOOF 03-19-2011 08:52 AM

What about the no fly zone? Where is it in the interests of the USA to get involved in the Libyan revolt? Then why not Bahrain, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, or even Iran for that matter? Is he trying to appear tough?

wiphan 03-19-2011 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF (Post 761713)
What about the no fly zone? Where is it in the interests of the USA to get involved in the Libyan revolt? Then why not Bahrain, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, or even Iran for that matter? Is he trying to appear tough?

Obama showed how tough he is by filling out a Womens NCAA bracket. He is in reality more interested and more knowledgeable in Womens basketball than he is foreign policy.

GBBob 03-19-2011 09:09 AM

:tro:Four more years baby..then 8 more with President Emanuel..Can't wait!

SOREHOOF 03-19-2011 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 761717)
:tro:Four more years baby..then 8 more with President Emanuel..Can't wait!

YIKES!

Coach Pants 03-19-2011 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 761717)
:tro:Four more years baby..then 8 more with President Emanuel..Can't wait!

Keep dreaming. See you in September for that idiotic prediction on the economy.

Danzig 03-19-2011 09:32 AM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42164066...d_news-europe/


obama should be at that, not on the latin america tour. joe biden could have gone there instead. world leaders are meeting, not their cabinet members. i disagree with this move.

wiphan 03-19-2011 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 761723)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42164066...d_news-europe/


obama should be at that, not on the latin america tour. joe biden could have gone there instead. world leaders are meeting, not their cabinet members. i disagree with this move.

he got a free hotel room for the gulf drilling contract he gave out. he can't let that go to waste

Coach Pants 03-19-2011 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 761723)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42164066...d_news-europe/


obama should be at that, not on the latin america tour. joe biden could have gone there instead. world leaders are meeting, not their cabinet members. i disagree with this move.

Yeah but that's a serious vacay. Latin America needs Doh!Bama

Danzig 03-19-2011 09:40 AM

you'd have to think that the meeting about libya would also have included a more wide ranging discussion about the middle east and the current climate in several countries. egypt, bahrain, yemen, saudia arabia, etc. we are a rudderless ship right now. our president has his finger in the air, testing the winds. waiting for others to act and then somewhat backing their play, while not really doing a thing. oh, gotta go to south america, sorry guys. thousands of people trying to become free, which is something we're supposed to be pushing for, and he ignores it.

GBBob 03-19-2011 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 761722)
Keep dreaming. See you in September for that idiotic prediction on the economy.

Kinda like that Aaron Rodgers stat queen thing:D

Coach Pants 03-19-2011 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 761731)
Kinda like that Aaron Rodgers stat queen thing:D

Yeah but there was a difference. Rodgers was surrounded by competent co-workers.

Obama? Not so much.

Danzig 03-19-2011 09:58 AM

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...riticizing-gop

yeah, on second thought, maybe biden shouldn't go anywhere...

interesting that we keep having to pass temporary budget measures to keep the wheels of govt turning. when will a budget be presented and voted on? or are they going to keep passing spending bills every few weeks for the next few years?

Danzig 03-19-2011 10:01 AM

speaking of the budget:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...Ufq_story.html

Riot 03-19-2011 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 761717)
:tro:Four more years baby..then 8 more with President Emanuel..Can't wait!

Oh, my god ... :D

joeydb 03-21-2011 06:29 AM

The Libyan operations are quite a convenient distraction from the Fukushima reactor 3 with the plutionium core going unstable. This is "Wag the Dog" all over again.

They needed something to break so that it could stop being highlighted that there are no radiation figures released to the public, yet water in Tokyo is contaminated, as well as milk and spinach (and who knows what else) for a large radius around the plant, and the radiation level hasn't finished climbing yet.


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