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somerfrost 03-12-2011 06:33 PM

Premier Pegasus...wow!
 
Just moved his record to 5/4-0-1 with a convincing win in the feature at SA, DP=11-6-13-0-0 so he has potential to be huge Derby factor.

Indian Charlie 03-12-2011 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 760301)
Just moved his record to 5/4-0-1 with a convincing win in the feature at SA, DP=11-6-13-0-0 so he has potential to be huge Derby factor.

Really?

What happened??

tjfla 03-12-2011 06:34 PM

who was in 4th?

HaloWishingwell 03-12-2011 06:34 PM

Had this horse been trained by Baffert out West we would have heard alot more about him by now.

SCUDSBROTHER 03-12-2011 06:37 PM

He's gritty. I know that much. I thought I had a race won at Hwd, but this horse
is very hard to pass.

somerfrost 03-12-2011 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 760304)
Really?

What happened??

He absolutely blew away the field, Jaycito closed for a distant 2nd off a blistering pace.

Indian Charlie 03-12-2011 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 760313)
He absolutely blew away the field, Jaycito closed for a distant 2nd off a blistering pace.

Neat!!!

somerfrost 03-12-2011 06:42 PM

Fractions were: 21.3, 44.2, 1:08.4, 1:34.2...final: 1:41.1

dalakhani 03-12-2011 06:48 PM

That race seemed to fall apart a little in my opinion. Premier Pegasus got first run and was long gone before Jaycito got into gear.

It was about as perfect a set up as you could ask for in my opinion. It was nice visually but it looked a lot better because the leaders were folding.

Indian Charlie 03-12-2011 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 760316)
That race seemed to fall apart a little in my opinion. Premier Pegasus got first run and was long gone before Jaycito got into gear.

It was about as perfect a set up as you could ask for in my opinion. It was nice visually but it looked a lot better because the leaders were folding.

I would say Jaycito was asked for run before PP was. And with those splits, Jaycito should have made a bigger impression on the race.

somerfrost 03-12-2011 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 760316)
That race seemed to fall apart a little in my opinion. Premier Pegasus got first run and was long gone before Jaycito got into gear.

It was about as perfect a set up as you could ask for in my opinion. It was nice visually but it looked a lot better because the leaders were folding.

Obviously the front runners backed up off that pace but Premier Pegasus was well placed in 5th while Jaycito seemed to close well but he never came close to PP who finished like a racehorse.

Thunder Gulch 03-12-2011 06:54 PM

The fractions distort everything, but that was a visually outstanding move on the turn and straightening away. Absolutely full of run.

Scav 03-12-2011 07:01 PM

More importantly, how good of a breeder is Scuds guy, Myung Kwon Cho.....

SCUDSBROTHER 03-12-2011 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 760321)
More importantly, how good of a breeder is Scuds guy, Myung Kwon Cho.....

Yea, a Norfolk Winner, and a San Felipe winner. Street Hero didn't try as hard as this one does. I thought this horse had a chance to hold on today. Didn't know he could draw off.

SCUDSBROTHER 03-12-2011 07:44 PM

Jaycito must be a really weird horse. Both his trainers have thought they had the second coming.

Merlinsky 03-12-2011 08:01 PM

Wasn't Jaycito blinkers off today?

NTamm1215 03-12-2011 08:12 PM

How many West Point members are trying to cancel Future Wagers right now?

dalakhani 03-12-2011 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 760329)
Wasn't Jaycito blinkers off today?

Yep and first off the bench. Not that i want to start a jaycito bandwagon. I just wouldn't look too negatively at this effort.

hockey2315 03-12-2011 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 760330)
How many West Point members are trying to cancel Future Wagers right now?

Haha. . . Interesting tactics employed by the flashy maiden winners. That's the way not to get burned out by Derby time.

RolloTomasi 03-12-2011 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 760321)
More importantly, how good of a breeder is Scuds guy, Myung Kwon Cho.....

Squall Linda probably deserves a bit more credit than Cho.

Scav 03-12-2011 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 760334)
Haha. . . Interesting tactics employed by the flashy maiden winners. That's the way not to get burned out by Derby time.

By Derby Time? You could even consider being burned out forever. Those horses minds are probably fried after that ridiculousness.

Unfortunately nice horses like that get ruined because of egos.

NTamm1215 03-12-2011 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 760337)
By Derby Time? You could even consider being burned out forever. Those horses minds are probably fried after that ridiculousness.

Unfortunately nice horses like that get ruined because of egos.

I expected it from Albergatti's connections. As far as Runflatout, this rush to get him on the Derby trail is astounding. That organization, West Point, is just beyond me. When you see them in the paddock at Saratoga you almost expect David Koresh to come out and speak to them about their horse in the upcoming race.

hockey2315 03-12-2011 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 760337)
By Derby Time? You could even consider being burned out forever. Those horses minds are probably fried after that ridiculousness.

Unfortunately nice horses like that get ruined because of egos.

I was being sarcastic. . . If you're trying to nurse along a horse who shouldn't be rushed into the Derby, maybe it'd be best to try to avoid a speed duel with your fellow sprint maiden winner.

SCUDSBROTHER 03-12-2011 08:54 PM

LOL...Street Hero's son (UAE 2000 Guineas Winner Splash Point ) sure has better action than pop's had. Both are big strides though.

RolloTomasi 03-12-2011 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 760344)
LOL...Street Hero's son (UAE 2000 Guineas Winner Splash Point ) sure has better action than pop's had. Both are big strides though.

Isn't that horse by Street Cry?

NTamm1215 03-12-2011 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 760347)
Isn't that horse by Street Cry?

Yes.

SCUDSBROTHER 03-12-2011 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 760347)
Isn't that horse by Street Cry?

Whoever he is by, he has a nice stride..... Yea, Street Heros are coming to race this year. I guess.

Port Conway Lane 03-12-2011 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 760358)
Whoever he is by, he has a nice stride. I was looking at Street Hero's progeny, and they said this horse was his highest earner. I probably got it wrong.

Somehow you're mixing up Premier Pegasus' brother,Street Hero, with Street Cry, whose highest earner shall remain undisclosed.

SCUDSBROTHER 03-12-2011 09:49 PM

Ima Blame Scav. He's the one that brought up that clumsy ox.

SCUDSBROTHER 03-12-2011 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane (Post 760363)
Somehow you're mixing up Premier Pegasus' brother,Street Hero, with Street Cry, whose highest earner shall remain undisclosed.

His (Street Cry's) highest earner this year is Spray point. I am sorry for the mistake. An 8.9 earthquake (combined with an M K Cho horse winning a Derby prep in a romp,) is a bit surreal.

Port Conway Lane 03-12-2011 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 760369)
His (Street Cry's) highest earner this year is Spray point. I am sorry for the mistake. An 8.9 earthquake (combined with an M K Cho horse winning a Derby prep in a romp,) is a bit surreal.

Oh,THIS YEAR. NP

NTamm1215 03-12-2011 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 760369)
His (Street Cry's) highest earner this year is Spray point. I am sorry for the mistake. An 8.9 earthquake (combined with an M K Cho horse winning a Derby prep in a romp,) is a bit surreal.

The horse's name is Splash Point. Street Hero is not going to have foals racing until 2012.

VOL JACK 03-12-2011 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 760336)
Squall Linda probably deserves a bit more credit than Cho.

If she can get a serious horse by Fu Peg....she is the best Blue Hen mare of all time.

Sightseek 03-12-2011 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 760330)
How many West Point members are trying to cancel Future Wagers right now?

:D

geeker2 03-13-2011 09:34 AM

Alonso's streak now at 1 for 73

Mike 03-13-2011 09:54 AM

Looks like The Factor and Sway Away's stock just soared too, as they beat Premeire Pegasus last out

jms62 03-13-2011 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 760330)
How many West Point members are trying to cancel Future Wagers right now?

You bring up an interesting point. My first thought was this shouldnt be possible or allowed so I went on NJBets and entered a 2.00 Future wager on Sweet Ducky at 50=1. I then was able to cancel it 5 minutes later. I guess you can't cancel after Sunday... I'm going to check that out too.

herkhorse 03-13-2011 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 760449)
You bring up an interesting point. My first thought was this shouldnt be possible or allowed so I went on NJBets and entered a 2.00 Future wager on Sweet Ducky at 50=1. I then was able to cancel it 5 minutes later. I guess you can't cancel after Sunday... I'm going to check that out too.

you can cancel up until the pools close, and I'm sure there are people making ridiculous high dollar bets with the intent of canceling later. All is fair in love and war and advance wagering.


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