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Riot 02-03-2011 01:54 PM

GOP attempt to redefine rape fails - taken out of bill
 
Yay! The Republican attempt to redefine rape, by eliminating some types of rape from the definition of rape, fails!

The GOP has agreed to withdraw the language they tacked onto a routine renewal of federal language regarding abortion funding, language trying to defund some womens health care in case of rape.

This is great news for all women.

Maybe now the Congressional Republicans could address job formation, and economic recovery?

Quote:

http://www.examiner.com/women-s-issu...ion-from-h-r-3

House Republicans Will Drop "Forcible Rape" Definition from H.R. 3

Following weeks of protest from women's groups, Democrats, and what many are calling the power of political satirist Jon Stewart, House Republicans announced this morning that they will be dropping the "forcible rape" language from H.R. 3, also known as the No Tax Payer Funding for Abortions Act, and will return to the language of the Hyde Amendment.

Nascar1966 02-03-2011 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 748577)
Yay! The Republican attempt to redefine rape, by eliminating some types of rape from the definition of rape, fails!

The GOP has agreed to withdraw the language they tacked onto a routine renewal of federal language regarding abortion funding, language trying to defund some womens health care in case of rape.

This is great news for all women.

Maybe now the Congressional Republicans could address job formation, and economic recovery?

Maybe Congressional Democrats can also address job information and economic recovery. How long will the Democrats keep on blaming the Republicans? They had the numbers in both Congress and the Senate. Now they only have it in the Senate for the time being. Yet all the Democrats want to do spend spend spend. I love how you always place the blame on the Republicans.

Riot 02-03-2011 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascar1966 (Post 748629)
Maybe Congressional Democrats can also address job information and economic recovery. How long will the Democrats keep on blaming the Republicans? They had the numbers in both Congress and the Senate. Now they only have it in the Senate for the time being. Yet all the Democrats want to do spend spend spend. I love how you always place the blame on the Republicans.

George Bush lost hundreds of thousands of jobs over the years, without doing anything until the last minute. Yeah, the blame for that never goes away.

Well, the Democrats and Obama did stuff on job creation and the economy - all that "spend spend spend" stuff you didn't like :tro: You can refer to most of the economists about the value of what they did (and what Bush did the last months in office) You can look at the economic indicators and see where they are.

The voters can judge it in 2012. Right now most of the loaned bailout funds have been paid back, several auto companies have been brought back from being gone forever and are now thriving. Obama just got another small middle class stimulus by giving the GOP that extension of Bush tax cuts. There's still more to go, indeed, but yeah, the actions of the last two years have done some good.

Nascar1966 02-03-2011 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 748640)
George Bush lost hundreds of thousands of jobs over the years, without doing anything until the last minute. Yeah, the blame for that never goes away.

Well, the Democrats and Obama did stuff on job creation and the economy - all that "spend spend spend" stuff you didn't like :tro: You can refer to most of the economists about the value of what they did (and what Bush did the last months in office) You can look at the economic indicators and see where they are.

The voters can judge it in 2012. Right now most of the loaned bailout funds have been paid back, several auto companies have been brought back from being gone forever and are now thriving. Obama just got another small middle class stimulus by giving the GOP that extension of Bush tax cuts. There's still more to go, indeed, but yeah, the actions of the last two years have done some good.

Since Obama took over from Bush unemployment has gone up by over %1.5. How is Obama helping unemployment out? Why is Obama spending when this country doesnt have it?

Riot 02-03-2011 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascar1966 (Post 748657)
Since Obama took over from Bush unemployment has gone up by over %1.5. How is Obama helping unemployment out? Why is Obama spending when this country doesnt have it?

Get back to me with what economists have said about what the economy has done over the past 2 years. You know, the rest of the major economic indicators. Get back to me with what major economists have said about "spending" in a recession/recovery. Get back to me with the number of jobs Bush lost - while doing nothing - compared to the job loss figures under Obama.

We are still in a slow moving recovery with much to be done. What's that? Yeah - recovery. Not recession. Not depression. Not where we were 2-3 years ago.

Nascar1966 02-03-2011 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 748662)
Get back to me with what economists have said about what the economy has done over the past 2 years. You know, the rest of the major economic indicators. Get back to me with what major economists have said about "spending" in a recession/recovery. Get back to me with the number of jobs Bush lost - while doing nothing - compared to the job loss figures under Obama.

We are still in a slow moving recovery with much to be done. What's that? Yeah - recovery. Not recession. Not depression. Not where we were 2-3 years ago.

Get back with me when unemployment is at the same level when Obama took over from Bush. Yes I know we are in a reccession. Look on the bvright side at least it isn't a depression. Im not saying Bush was a perfect President. It is amazing how unemployment and our national debt has sky rocketed since Obama took over. Im sure you and the rest of your Democrats will blame the Republicans like you always like too.

Riot 02-03-2011 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascar1966 (Post 748665)
Get back with me when unemployment is at the same level when Obama took over from Bush. Yes I know we are in a reccession. Look on the bvright side at least it isn't a depression. Im not saying Bush was a perfect President. It is amazing how unemployment and our national debt has sky rocketed since Obama took over. Im sure you and the rest of your Democrats will blame the Republicans like you always like too.

It would be nice if you would realize WHAT HAS MADE OUR DEBT SKYROCKET, and it skyrocketed before Obama even declared a run for President.

Two unfunded wars from Bush ring a bell?

Unfunded tax cuts from Bush? (extended by Obama?)

Unfunded Medicare benefits from Bush?

Let's look at our national debt the day Bush took office (surplus), and the trillions hole we were in the day Bush left office.

And how the unemployment numbers have risen, unabated and unaddressed, over the past many years. They didn't rise the day Obama took office out of nowhere.

jms62 02-03-2011 06:14 PM

The bad NASCAR is out in full force tonight. He has no concept of the downward momentum that was in place. Having said that Obama's economic recovery team is made up of those that ****ed us up in the first place. Like hiring the FOX to guard the hen-house.

Nascar1966 02-04-2011 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 748681)
The bad NASCAR is out in full force tonight. He has no concept of the downward momentum that was in place. Having said that Obama's economic recovery team is made up of those that ****ed us up in the first place. Like hiring the FOX to guard the hen-house.

Then why doesn't Obama make changes to his economic recovery team if they f cked us in the first place?

Nascar1966 02-04-2011 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 748670)
It would be nice if you would realize WHAT HAS MADE OUR DEBT SKYROCKET, and it skyrocketed before Obama even declared a run for President.

Two unfunded wars from Bush ring a bell?

Unfunded tax cuts from Bush? (extended by Obama?)

Unfunded Medicare benefits from Bush?

Let's look at our national debt the day Bush took office (surplus), and the trillions hole we were in the day Bush left office.

And how the unemployment numbers have risen, unabated and unaddressed, over the past many years. They didn't rise the day Obama took office out of nowhere.

Did you forget about the graph that was posted in a different thread showing how the national debt and unemployment has sky rocketed since Obama took over? I'm sure you will say it is all Bush's and the Republicans fault. Then you always have a solution to the economy and unemployment. I'm sure you will say that that graph is fake and just a lie.Obama has been in office for two years now and no dents have been made in the economy and unemployment. The only thing that hasn't changed is Obama pointing his finger at Bush and the Republicans.

Here is something for you to look at:

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/r...ebt_histo5.htm

Sure looks like the National Debt is going down.

Here is one for unemployment:
http://portalseven.com/employment/un...01&toYear=2010


I see a major jump in unemployment in 2009. Wasn't that the year Obama took over as President? Yes I also see the slight decline in 2010. A ever so slight decline.

Nascar1966 02-04-2011 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merasmag (Post 748799)
i refuse to read this

riot...why dnU spend UR time on rescuing a horselet(TM) or 2 instead?

Be nice to Riot. Did you forgot Riot knows how to fix the economy and unemployment.

Riot 02-04-2011 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascar1966 (Post 748795)
Did you forget about the graph that was posted in a different thread showing how the national debt and unemployment has sky rocketed since Obama took over? I'm sure you will say it is all Bush's and the Republicans fault. Then you always have a solution to the economy and unemployment. I'm sure you will say that that graph is fake and just a lie.Obama has been in office for two years now and no dents have been made in the economy and unemployment. The only thing that hasn't changed is Obama pointing his finger at Bush and the Republicans..

Wow. Post "my solutions to the economy and unemployment" - I'm unfamiliar with what I've apparently posted here :D

No, when that graph was posted, I never said it was fake. I said it was true, but I also said it doesn't give all the information needed. So please don't pull a Dell and just make crap up.

Quote:

Obama has been in office for two years now and no dents have been made in the economy and unemployment.
"No dents" None at all? Seriously? ;) That's simply a broad statement that's not true.

Riot 02-04-2011 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merasmag (Post 748799)
i refuse to read this

riot...why dnU spend UR time on rescuing a horselet(TM) or 2 instead?

I do plenty for horses daily at work, thanks.

Riot 02-04-2011 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascar1966 (Post 748803)
Be nice to Riot. Did you forgot Riot knows how to fix the economy and unemployment.

Don't be a jackass. Where have I posted fixes to the economy and unemployment? Do share.

AeWingnut 02-04-2011 06:13 PM

didn't read the article but I assume that all babies are considered the product of rape or incest so you can kill 'em without a police report of the rape

:mad:

so... Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and CiC BhO are completely innocent because ?
they were unable to stop the demChiComCrimocrat congress that was elected in 2006 from destroying everything. While Bush was fighting a war on TERROR... I know - don't stop until you hit a (R) even if it was a liberal (R)

if Bush was bad then what makes Obama better?

We have more debt, more unemployment and the war has only shifted from Iraq to Afghanistan. Please spare me the parroting 0pologists...

btw

did you know that California considers it rape if you have sex with a "partner" while they are drunk and it doesn't matter if you are drunk. What matters is you didn't call the next morning :rolleyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcLazPauA1c

Dahoss 02-04-2011 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AeWingnut (Post 748990)
didn't read the article but I assume that all babies are considered the product of rape or incest so you can kill 'em without a police report of the rape

:mad:

so... Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and CiC BhO are completely innocent because ?
they were unable to stop the demChiComCrimocrat congress that was elected in 2006 from destroying everything. While Bush was fighting a war on TERROR... I know - don't stop until you hit a (R) even if it was a liberal (R)

if Bush was bad then what makes Obama better?

We have more debt, more unemployment and the war has only shifted from Iraq to Afghanistan. Please spare me the parroting 0pologists...

btw

did you know that California considers it rape if you have sex with a "partner" while they are drunk and it doesn't matter if you are drunk. What matters is you didn't call the next morning :rolleyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcLazPauA1c

You should stick to posting pictures of birds.

Nascar1966 02-04-2011 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 748982)
Wow. Post "my solutions to the economy and unemployment" - I'm unfamiliar with what I've apparently posted here :D

No, when that graph was posted, I never said it was fake. I said it was true, but I also said it doesn't give all the information needed. So please don't pull a Dell and just make crap up.



"No dents" None at all? Seriously? ;) That's simply a broad statement that's not true.

I guess if unemployment goes down by .1 that is a huge decrease in your make believe word? Don't get mad at me for showing you a graph.

Nascar1966 02-04-2011 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 748982)
Wow. Post "my solutions to the economy and unemployment" - I'm unfamiliar with what I've apparently posted here :D

No, when that graph was posted, I never said it was fake. I said it was true, but I also said it doesn't give all the information needed. So please don't pull a Dell and just make crap up.



"No dents" None at all? Seriously? ;) That's simply a broad statement that's not true.

I guess if unemployment goes down by .1 that is a huge decrease in your make believe word? Don't get mad at me for showing you a graph. I love it when Dell puts you in your place. Maybe you should start your own radio or television show. It should be called "The World According to Riot" just let me know when it is on. I will watch or listen to something else.

Riot 02-05-2011 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascar1966 (Post 749013)
I guess if unemployment goes down by .1 that is a huge decrease in your make believe word? Don't get mad at me for showing you a graph. I love it when Dell puts you in your place. Maybe you should start your own radio or television show. It should be called "The World According to Riot" just let me know when it is on. I will watch or listen to something else.

:zz: I'm not "mad at you" for putting up a graph. But it doesn't give all the information. You think unemployment magically went up the day Obama took office? LOL - yeah, right. Go find the graph of jobs lost for the past 10 years, and then get back to me. Go find a graph of our GDP for the past 10 years, too. That's not the world according to Riot, it's the world according to reality. You know, all that stuff you like to ignore in favor of your anger and victimhood.

Nascar1966 02-05-2011 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 749304)
:zz: I'm not "mad at you" for putting up a graph. But it doesn't give all the information. You think unemployment magically went up the day Obama took office? LOL - yeah, right. Go find the graph of jobs lost for the past 10 years, and then get back to me. Go find a graph of our GDP for the past 10 years, too. That's not the world according to Riot, it's the world according to reality. You know, all that stuff you like to ignore in favor of your anger and victimhood.

The graph that was posted was from 2001 until 2010. That should be enough years to be used for comparision. Since Obama took over UNEMPLOYMENT HAS GONE UP BY OVER %1.5 PERCENT. Im glad you dont run for political office. If you was the only candidate I would use the write in option and put Bozo the Clown in your place. The graphs tell the story how unemployment and the Debt has gone drasticly up since Obama took over. Evidently you're too incompetent to interpret it. Glad im going on vacation tomorrow.

Riot 02-05-2011 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascar1966 (Post 749305)
The graph that was posted was from 2001 until 2010. That should be enough years to be used for comparision. Since Obama took over UNEMPLOYMENT HAS GONE UP BY OVER %1.5 PERCENT. Im glad you dont run for political office. If you was the only candidate I would use the write in option and put Bozo the Clown in your place. The graphs tell the story how unemployment and the Debt has gone drasticly since Obama took over. Evidently your too incompetent to interpret it. Glad im going on vacation tomorrow.

Yeah. I'm incompetent, but you're the one refusing to look the actual number of jobs lost and gained over the past 10 years, and you refuse to look at our countries economic growth numbers by quarters, over the past 10 years; while bitching everything happened under Obama. You're brilliant.

Riot 02-05-2011 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merasmag (Post 749311)
i dnmean i dnthink u already work 4 dehorselets(TM)...i know U do...but this is a battle with only 1 participant:)

:D

Getting back to the topic of this thread, there is a Congressman in Georgia that wants to legally change his state law regarding what rape victims are called within the legal system - he wants them called "accusers".

That's right, if you are a child that is raped, you are not a victim of violence, you are an "accuser".

God help us :eek:

Danzig 02-05-2011 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascar1966 (Post 749305)
The graph that was posted was from 2001 until 2010. That should be enough years to be used for comparision. Since Obama took over UNEMPLOYMENT HAS GONE UP BY OVER %1.5 PERCENT. Im glad you dont run for political office. If you was the only candidate I would use the write in option and put Bozo the Clown in your place. The graphs tell the story how unemployment and the Debt has gone drasticly since Obama took over. Evidently your too incompetent to interpret it. Glad im going on vacation tomorrow.

lol
'your incompetent' too funny that you type that while not using the correct 'you're' too funny
btw. read today that unemployment has dropped. which is a good sign.

and obama has as much effect on ue as clinton did. i never got why people point at the prez for that. or applaud them for it for that matter

miraja2 02-05-2011 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 748994)
You should stick to posting pictures of birds.

:tro: :tro: :tro:

So far, this is my favorite post of 2011.

Nascar1966 02-05-2011 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 749328)
lol
'your incompetent' too funny that you type that while not using the correct 'you're' too funny
btw. read today that unemployment has dropped. which is a good sign.

and obama has as much effect on ue as clinton did. i never got why people point at the prez for that. or applaud them for it for that matter

You are correct that unemployment did drop ever so slightly. Hopefully that is positive step in ending this recession that this country is in. If this a sign of the future then this is a positive step. If this trend continues then Obama is to be commended and more than likely he would get my vote in 2012. The Republicans could run whomever they would want to but Obama would get my vote if the economy and unemployment have made drastic improvements to the good.

miraja2 02-05-2011 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 749328)
and obama has as much effect on ue as clinton did. i never got why people point at the prez for that. or applaud them for it for that matter

Please leave common sense like this out of a Riot vs Nascar slugfest.

miraja2 02-05-2011 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascar1966 (Post 749358)
If this trend continues then Obama is to be commended and more than likely he would get my vote in 2012. The Republicans could run whomever they would want to but Obama would get my vote if the economy and unemployment have made drastic improvements to the good.

Oh my god.

That's it for me.

I officially give up trying to understand the DT politics room

brianwspencer 02-05-2011 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascar1966 (Post 749305)
If you was the only candidate I would use the write in option and put Bozo the Clown in your place.

I think this be my favorite sentence on DT in weeks.

dellinger63 02-05-2011 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianwspencer (Post 749381)
I think this be my favorite sentence on DT in weeks.


No chance against RIOT's post about illegals paying for VA benefits for post of the year...

brianwspencer 02-05-2011 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 749389)
No chance against RIOT's post about illegals paying for VA benefits for post of the year...

Neither will be in the top 50 for post of the year....

Nascar1966 02-06-2011 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 749308)
Yeah. I'm incompetent, but you're the one refusing to look the actual number of jobs lost and gained over the past 10 years, and you refuse to look at our countries economic growth numbers by quarters, over the past 10 years; while bitching everything happened under Obama. You're brilliant.

You just want to see what you believe is real. Show me some numbers. If going back around 10 years is an issue with you, you have a problem. No wonder Dell thinks so highly of you.

jms62 02-06-2011 09:58 AM

Has anyone told you today that you are an idiot. You have some redeeming values however your racist political views kind of overwhelm the positives. Your (NOTE YOUR not YOU'RE get that ****ing right already, it's not that difficult) I'll vote for Obama post will go down as the most disingenuous post of 2011.

Dahoss 02-06-2011 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 749507)
You have some redeeming values

He does?

jms62 02-06-2011 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 749528)
He does?

Ya... He stated his kid graduated top honors and when asked he said he adopted him. That's redeeming. I'm glad I pressed him on it because when he said his kid graduated top honors I was beside myself and swore never to pay a stud fee again because breeding is nothing more than a crap shoot. His answer gave me an inkling that there still may be a bit of science involved.

Nascar1966 02-07-2011 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 749507)
Has anyone told you today that you are an idiot. You have some redeeming values however your racist political views kind of overwhelm the positives. Your (NOTE YOUR not YOU'RE get that ****ing right already, it's not that difficult) I'll vote for Obama post will go down as the most disingenuous post of 2011.

Did you enjoy your Saturday night meeting with your Black Panther chapter. Call me a racist I DONT GIVE A F CK. Has anyone told you your a worthless b stard? NOTE Pension and don't type the stupid sh t you typed out. Your post is very racist. I expect that from Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton. Maybe you are related to them or look like them. Wouldn't suprise me they are trash like you are.

Nascar1966 02-07-2011 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 749533)
Ya... He stated his kid graduated top honors and when asked he said he adopted him. That's redeeming. I'm glad I pressed him on it because when he said his kid graduated top honors I was beside myself and swore never to pay a stud fee again because breeding is nothing more than a crap shoot. His answer gave me an inkling that there still may be a bit of science involved.

Love your sense of humor RACIST B TCH.


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