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Riot 01-30-2011 09:12 AM

Egypt
 
Live coverage, no commercials:

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

dellinger63 01-30-2011 10:06 AM

What's scary is the military Egypt has (largely supplied by us) and the uncertainty of who or what will take control of it.

Nascar1966 01-30-2011 12:42 PM

Hopefully our country doesn't get involved in this mess. This country has enough on thier plate with Iraq and Afghanistan.

santana 01-30-2011 06:07 PM

Glad i am not there.....be thankful you are here in th USA...

dellinger63 01-30-2011 07:00 PM

Egyptians in Chicago staged a demonstration protest 2000 strong.

IMO Kinda of like the idiots at OTB's who yell instructions to jockeys and complaints to stewards / trainers through the TV but I guess they're at least within a few thousand miles. :zz::zz:

Yell louder and they might hear, or not.

joeydb 01-31-2011 06:31 AM

There go my chances of EVER seeing the pyramids... :(

dellinger63 01-31-2011 11:34 AM

I'm for the Vegas Pawn episode when the King Tut Mask comes in.

'Um let me get someone down here to authenticate it and then we can talk price.'

After finding out it's real and estimated at $500 million US.

'Ok very few people can afford this, it might be a curse for me to even buy it. I can do $50 thousand cash money'

'You can't do more. I came all the way from Egypt with this and it wasn't easy'

'Well it does have some damage from when the museum guards tried to machete you. I'll do $75 grand no more.'

'Ok Sold 75K'

Nascar1966 01-31-2011 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 747553)
I'm for the Vegas Pawn episode when the King Tut Mask comes in.

'Um let me get someone down here to authenticate it and then we can talk price.'

After finding out it's real and estimated at $500 million US.

'Ok very few people can afford this, it might be a curse for me to even buy it. I can do $50 thousand cash money'

'You can't do more. I came all the way from Egypt with this and it wasn't easy'

'Well it does have some damage from when the museum guards tried to machete you. I'll do $75 grand no more.'

'Ok Sold 75K'



Maybe we will see the mask on Pawn Stars. Love to see if Corey knows anything about King Tut.

Coach Pants 01-31-2011 06:23 PM


geeker2 01-31-2011 06:28 PM

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There go my chances of EVER seeing the pyramids... :(

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dellinger63 02-01-2011 10:50 AM

Strange how The Muslim Brotherhood, all over the news shows last night as a successor to Mubarek and his party, was represented as a peaceful secular group yet are making statements like, "A leading member of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt told the Arabic-language Iranian news network Al-Alam on Monday that he would like to see the Egyptian people prepare for war against Israel, according to the Hebrew-language business newspaper Calcalist.

Muhammad Ghannem reportedly told Al- Alam that the Suez Canal should be closed immediately, and that the flow of gas from Egypt to Israel should cease “in order to bring about the downfall of the Mubarak regime.” He added that “the people should be prepared for war against Israel,” saying the world should understand that “the Egyptian people are prepared for anything to get rid of this regime.”

Ghannem praised Egyptian soldiers deployed by President Hosni Mubarak to Egyptian cities, saying they “would not kill their brothers.” He added that Washington was forced to abandon plans to help Mubarak stay in power after “seeing millions head for the streets.”

http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=206130

Coach Pants 02-01-2011 11:17 AM

He can keep wishing.

GenuineRisk 02-01-2011 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 747835)
Strange how The Muslim Brotherhood, all over the news shows last night as a successor to Mubarek and his party, was represented as a peaceful secular group yet are making statements like, "A leading member of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt told the Arabic-language Iranian news network Al-Alam on Monday that he would like to see the Egyptian people prepare for war against Israel, according to the Hebrew-language business newspaper Calcalist.

Muhammad Ghannem reportedly told Al- Alam that the Suez Canal should be closed immediately, and that the flow of gas from Egypt to Israel should cease “in order to bring about the downfall of the Mubarak regime.” He added that “the people should be prepared for war against Israel,” saying the world should understand that “the Egyptian people are prepared for anything to get rid of this regime.”

Ghannem praised Egyptian soldiers deployed by President Hosni Mubarak to Egyptian cities, saying they “would not kill their brothers.” He added that Washington was forced to abandon plans to help Mubarak stay in power after “seeing millions head for the streets.”

http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=206130

Except that on their own website, the MB states that they will not be taking leadership positions in the upcoming gov't. The guy quoted above may well "like to see the Egyptian people prepare for war against Israel." Well, Republican leader Michelle Bachmann would well like to see disability benefits for US veterans cut. Doesn't mean it will happen.

Riot 02-02-2011 05:05 PM

Al Jazeera gets temporary US home
 
AJ has had the best, live coverage of Egypt.

Quote:

NEW YORK — Al-Jazeera English has temporarily gained a long-sought American television outlet for its coverage of the Egyptian turmoil, an event that the Qatar-based news network hopes is a turning point for its acceptance in the U.S. market.

Link TV, an independent broadcaster seen primarily on the DirecTV and Dish satellite systems, said Wednesday it is simulcasting about 12 hours a day of live Al-Jazeera coverage to about 33 million of the nation's nearly 116 million homes with televisions. Al-Jazeera's in-depth treatment of the story has won praise from journalists and hostility from Egyptian authorities, who closed the channel's Cairo office and briefly detained six of its journalists.

When the story calms down, Al-Jazeera plans go back to cable operators in the U.S. to seek permanent spots on the air, said Al Anstey, the network's managing director.

dellinger63 02-02-2011 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 748372)
AJ has had the best, live coverage of Egypt.

who are their top three competitors providing live coverage?:zz:

Riot 02-02-2011 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 748378)
who are their top three competitors providing live coverage?:zz:

I meant they had the best coverage, and live.

But I think BBC is there.

dellinger63 02-02-2011 06:09 PM

CNN screwed up when they missed Anderson Cooper getting beat and Amanapour flea and get her windows broken out doing so. Makes you kind of wonder whether that's how it happened? We shall see soon as getting punched 10 times in the head will surely leave a mark and he'll be live.

Riot 02-02-2011 06:33 PM

I already saw video of that on the internet (not on CNN <g>) Pretty ugly. Did the gov-sent Mubarik supporters really think riding in on tourist camels and poor slow ponies would keep them from harm? I do give the people of Egypt credit, however - they didn't hurt the animals as they beat the crap out of their riders. Frankly, I've been surprised how non-violent it's been so far, but looks like Mubarik wants to change that. The army needs to escort him away.

Riot 02-02-2011 09:46 PM

Getting violent and ugly overnight. Shots being fired on protesters (suspected to be Mubarik policemen sent by government) and army isn't helping or preventing.

Coach Pants 02-02-2011 09:50 PM

Obama is dropping the ball again. Shocking. How many days will it take for terrorists to enter Egypt through Sudan and set up shop?

Could be looking at up to 20,000 Americans stuck.

Nascar1966 02-03-2011 04:38 PM

Wow reporters getting attacked for no reason. Way to go Egypt. This country should pull all of our people out of there including diplomats. Once this is all over im sure Obama will give Egypt money to rebuild. Pretty much this is turning into a smaller version of Iraq.

Riot 02-03-2011 05:01 PM

[quote]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascar1966 (Post 748651)
Wow reporters getting attacked for no reason. Way to go Egypt.

The people of Egypt have been very non-violent through out this. They are not a violent people, generally. The army, which is conscription, has been noticably, and admirably, non-violent, too.

It's Mubariks police force and supporters that have brought this latest violence overnight, and it's they who are attacking the journalists.

Nascar1966 02-03-2011 05:05 PM

[quote=Riot;748666]
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The people of Egypt have been very non-violent through out this. They are not a violent people, generally. The army, which is conscription, has been noticably, and admirably, non-violent, too.

It's Mubariks police force and supporters that have brought this latest violence overnight, and it's they who are attacking the journalists.
They are still being attacked. I could care less about who is to blame. Our people need to get out of there. If the Egyptians want to destroy thier country let them. Im sure Obama will Egypt money to rebuilt even though this country doesn't have the money to send them.

Riot 02-03-2011 05:07 PM

[quote=Nascar1966;748669]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 748666)

They are still being attacked. I could care less about who is to blame. Our people need to get out of there. If the Egyptians want to destroy thier country let them. Im sure Obama will Egypt money to rebuilt even though this country doesn't have the money to send them.

Let's not let any nuance or detail get in the way of your preconceived, broadly generalized ideas. Got it.

Riot 02-03-2011 06:06 PM

Live feed cut
 
It's reported the news media's live feed of the square was cut late this afternoon. With the attacks upon, and rounding up of, the international journalists, people are starting to get afraid Mubarik has blocked witness by the world, and is going to set the police force upon killing the protesters,

dellinger63 02-03-2011 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 748394)
I already saw video of that on the internet (not on CNN <g>) Pretty ugly. Did the gov-sent Mubarik supporters really think riding in on tourist camels and poor slow ponies would keep them from harm? I do give the people of Egypt credit, however - they didn't hurt the animals as they beat the crap out of their riders. Frankly, I've been surprised how non-violent it's been so far, but looks like Mubarik wants to change that. The army needs to escort him away.

where's the video of Anderson Cooper getting punched? Saw him last night live and who punched him? Pre-school girls? No marks whatsoever? I call complete BS or *****!

Riot 02-03-2011 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 748706)
where's the video of Anderson Cooper getting punched? Saw him last night live and who punched him? Pre-school girls? No marks whatsoever? I call complete BS or *****!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owNDkgJJjPM with his comments

The attack with the video audio as it's happening
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_817352.html

dellinger63 02-03-2011 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 748708)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owNDkgJJjPM with his comments

The attack with the video audio as it's happening
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_817352.html

I saw Anderson throw a bitch slap with the limp left and nothing else? Huffington took too long (bad server?) but on youtube give me the times when he got hit? He also said he had a couple escorts yet it seems there were ar least a dozen in crossing guard outfits assisting. Again I call BS. and we are by the turn and at the river.

Riot 02-03-2011 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 748718)
I saw Anderson throw a bitch slap with the limp left and nothing else? Huffington took too long (bad server?) but on youtube give me the times when he got hit? He also said he had a couple escorts yet it seems there were ar least a dozen in crossing guard outfits assisting. Again I call BS. and we are by the turn and at the river.

Why did you bother to watch it? It's not like watching what happened was going to change your already made-up mind about what happened :D

I guess all the rest of the journalists are lying, too?

For those that are actually worried about what Mubarik is doing to international journalists, it's reported Brian Williams and Katie Couric left Egypt late today for safety fear. ABC producer threatened with beheading. Here's more on journalist crackdowns. Al Jazeera journalist missing.

Christian Amanpour is going to have a 1 hour special on Nightline ABC tonight, interview with Mubarik.

Quote:

Wash. Post, NY Times, Canada's Globe & Mail reporters arrested; mobs clashed w/ CNN IBN, NPR, Time.

Fox News foreign correspondent Greg Patlok and producer Olaf Wiig were badly beaten. As their colleague John Roberts described it:

They were forced to leave their position when a Molotov cocktail was thrown at it, a large fire erupted. They were forced to flee. They ran out and ran right into the pro Mubarak crowd and were severely beaten and had to be taken to the hospital, spent the night in the hospital. The extent of their injuries was fairly grave, however, they have been released from the hospital.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_817991.html

Nascar1966 02-04-2011 03:11 AM

[quote=Riot;748666]
Quote:


The people of Egypt have been very non-violent through out this. They are not a violent people, generally. The army, which is conscription, has been noticably, and admirably, non-violent, too.

It's Mubariks police force and supporters that have brought this latest violence overnight, and it's they who are attacking the journalists.
I guess the television crew person with broken jaw wasn't caused by a violent attack. Whether it was a Mubarek supporter or not it was still a form of violence by an Egyptian person. I guess you are watching something different than what is show on the net and television.

Riot 02-04-2011 06:11 PM

[quote=Nascar1966;748796]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 748666)

I guess the television crew person with broken jaw wasn't caused by a violent attack. Whether it was a Mubarek supporter or not it was still a form of violence by an Egyptian person. I guess you are watching something different than what is show on the net and television.

I forgot that you judge millions of people by the actions of one or two. And you just ignore stuff I've written if it doesn't suit your purpose.

Nascar, those were Mubarek supporters and police sent by the government to start trouble. Did you see what happened in the square in the past 24 hours at the huge rally? Nothing. Very peaceful. The army and the citizens set up barriers, people were frisked and ID's checked before they were let in, and it was fine.

Meanwhile, a group of yelling, screaming Murbarik supporters trying to start trouble was kept away from there by the army.

Don't worry, Nascar, Dell says Anderson Cooper didn't really get hurt, that was "bs"

dellinger63 02-04-2011 07:26 PM

[quote=Riot;748989]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascar1966 (Post 748796)
Don't worry, Nascar, Dell says Anderson Cooper didn't really get hurt, that was "bs"

He didn't. Saw the tape last night. Anderson has a weaker slap/limp wrist than Obama's throwing arm.

Nascar1966 02-05-2011 05:31 AM

[quote=Riot;748989]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascar1966 (Post 748796)

I forgot that you judge millions of people by the actions of one or two. And you just ignore stuff I've written if it doesn't suit your purpose.

Nascar, those were Mubarek supporters and police sent by the government to start trouble. Did you see what happened in the square in the past 24 hours at the huge rally? Nothing. Very peaceful. The army and the citizens set up barriers, people were frisked and ID's checked before they were let in, and it was fine.

Meanwhile, a group of yelling, screaming Murbarik supporters trying to start trouble was kept away from there by the army.

Don't worry, Nascar, Dell says Anderson Cooper didn't really get hurt, that was "bs"

Where have I said that Egyptian people as a whole are violent? You want to put words in my mouth go right ahead. Won't be the first time some one did it.

dellinger63 02-05-2011 08:38 AM

[quote=Riot;748666]
Quote:


The people of Egypt have been very non-violent through out this. They are not a violent people, generally. The army, which is conscription, has been noticably, and admirably, non-violent, too.

It's Mubariks police force and supporters that have brought this latest violence overnight, and it's they who are attacking the journalists.
Guess you're wrong again unless Mubarik was going after his own guy

Meanwhile the response from the WH? The 'stick your head in the sand' no comment.

White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs declined to address the assassination reports when asked earlier by Fox News.

"I'm not going to ... get into that question," Gibbs said.





http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/02...ell-fox-news/#

jms62 02-05-2011 08:57 AM

[quote=dellinger63;749148]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 748666)

Guess you're wrong again unless Mubarik was going after his own guy

Meanwhile the response from the WH? The 'stick your head in the sand' no comment.

White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs declined to address the assassination reports when asked earlier by Fox News.

"I'm not going to ... get into that question," Gibbs said.



http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/02...ell-fox-news/#

Why do you have such an issue with the WH not commenting ? BFnD

dellinger63 02-05-2011 09:51 AM

[quote=jms62;749154]
Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 749148)

Why do you have such an issue with the WH not commenting ? BFnD

I’d like to know what the White House’s position is. You know since they have been so admiring of the peacefulness of the protesters, I wonder whether that admiration continues with the foiled plans of the assassination of the newly appointed VP and killing of the two bodyguards.

BTW I’d really like a comment and the thought process behind releasing Britain’s Nuke secrets to the Russians as alleged by wikileaks. I’m hoping the report is false but if it is true we’re in deeper shiat with this guy than I could have ever imagined.

Coach Pants 02-05-2011 10:11 AM

now if you could fix the quote fiasco in this thread then you'll have all the answers to life's problems.

Riot 02-10-2011 01:04 PM

Egypt - army now in control
 
Mubarik will speak to the nation within the next hour. Expected to resign, of course. The army has taken control of the country.

Nascar1966 02-10-2011 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 750996)
Mubarik will speak to the nation within the next hour. Expected to resign, of course. The army has taken control of the country.

No dah. BTW it is Mubarak not Mubarik. Hope the rumor that the Muslim Brotherhood won't be taking over. Supposedly they sponsor terorism. Go figure. If that happens im sure our brilliant leader will still send aid to Egypt and help rebuild the country.

Riot 02-10-2011 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascar1966 (Post 751012)
No dah. BTW it is Mubarak not Mubarik. Hope the rumor that the Muslim Brotherhood won't be taking over. Supposedly they sponsor terorism. Go figure. If that happens im sure our brilliant leader will still send aid to Egypt and help rebuild the country.

What is unique about you, Nascar, is that you form your opinions before events even happen, and the subsequent reality doesn't interfer much :tro::D

Al Quaeda hates the Muslim Brotherhood because they call for non-violence. Just sayin'.

But no, from what most have said, the Muslim Brotherhood won't be taking over. They work on a community level, not a leadership level.


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