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GenuineRisk 01-08-2011 01:41 PM

AZ Congresswoman in critical condition after shooting
 
Democratic Congresswoman Gabrielle Gifford (AZ) was shot at point-blank range at an event outside a Safeway. She is dead, along with several other people. A child was also hit.

The suspect (tackled by one of her staffers when he attempted to flee) other than he is mid-20's, white and clean-shaven.

Update: FOX is stating she's still alive but in critical condition. Prayers that this is true.

randallscott35 01-08-2011 01:50 PM

Horrible. I'm afraid we will see much more of this sort of thing.

ateamstupid 01-08-2011 02:06 PM

Gee, I'm shocked. Awful.

RIP

paisjpq 01-08-2011 02:15 PM

she was on palins list of 20 candidates to get out of office in the midterm elections....oddly enough that website was taken down shortly after the shooting

Riot 01-08-2011 02:28 PM

Holy crap. Prayers to her and her family.

I hope it is in no way associated with politics.


randallscott35 01-08-2011 02:48 PM

My sincere condolences are offered to the family of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and the other victims of today's tragic shooting in Arizona. On behalf of Todd and my family, we all pray for the victims and their families, and for peace and justice.
- Sarah Palin

GenuineRisk 01-08-2011 02:53 PM

Never so glad to be wrong in my life, now the reports state that they think the Congresswoman will pull through, though no word on how bad her injuries are yet. Could one of the monitors change the title of the thread, please?

Four other people are dead, though.

GenuineRisk 01-08-2011 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paisjpq (Post 740982)
she was on palins list of 20 candidates to get out of office in the midterm elections....oddly enough that website was taken down shortly after the shooting

Here's the ad Palin's PAC produced during the campaign:


GPK 01-08-2011 03:32 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/us...s.html?_r=1&hp

hi_im_god 01-08-2011 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 740990)
My sincere condolences are offered to the family of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and the other victims of today's tragic shooting in Arizona. On behalf of Todd and my family, we all pray for the victims and their families, and for peace and justice.
- Sarah Palin

don't retreat. instead reload.

-sarah palin via twitter after passage of the healthcare bill.

hi_im_god 01-08-2011 04:02 PM

shooter's youtube channel. the guy's nuts.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitu.../1/nHoaZaLbqB4

hi_im_god 01-08-2011 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merasmag (Post 741025)
i refuse2giveitahit(nopunintended)...assanation
but...
wasthereadoubt?

why wouldn't you give it a hit? he's not getting paid per view.

geeker2 01-08-2011 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 741017)
shooter's youtube channel. the guy's nuts.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitu.../1/nHoaZaLbqB4

Wow..WTF?

GPK 01-08-2011 04:57 PM

Federal Judge John Roll among one of those killed.

GenuineRisk 01-08-2011 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 741017)
shooter's youtube channel. the guy's nuts.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitu.../1/nHoaZaLbqB4

What is up with these guys and the freaking gold standard?

hi_im_god 01-08-2011 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merasmag (Post 741035)
and dueNOT f w/my posts
momo(TM)
i have it on GOOD authority u r knot god
goddammit


dats what is cauzzing dis shat

i'm a primate with delusions of grandeur. way more dangerous than whichever invisible giant in the sky you believe in.

and don't call me a momo(tm).

it hurts my feelings.

GenuineRisk 01-08-2011 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK (Post 741040)
Federal Judge John Roll among one of those killed.

And a nine-year-old girl. I'm just sick over this.

hi_im_god 01-08-2011 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 741041)
What is up with these guys and the freaking gold standard?

to be fair it could have been 9/11 coverup, vaccine conspiracy, or trilateral commission. the actual weird obsession isn't all that important. it's not like the guy had any understanding of economics. it's just something he heard repeated.

trackrat59 01-08-2011 06:27 PM

Sorry to hear about this. My condolences to all that are involved. And a 9 year old little girl. So sad. God bless her.

GPK 01-08-2011 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 741045)
to be fair it could have been 9/11 coverup, vaccine conspiracy, or trilateral commission. the actual weird obsession isn't all that important. it's not like the guy had any understanding of economics. it's just something he heard repeated.

That's the sad part. Just something he probably heard repeated over and over and over. Like Hitler said "Give me their brains til they are 12 years old, and they will be Nazis for life"

Danzig 01-08-2011 08:07 PM

an awful thing to happen. my sympathies to everyone involved.

GPK 01-08-2011 08:11 PM

Now there is talk of a possible 2nd suspect.

dellinger63 01-08-2011 08:13 PM

The guy was nuts and won't be sleep walking anymore. Why he didn't just kill himself? Instead he took out a bunch of others including a kid and may he now RIH for eternity until then be the prison biatch he will be!

GenuineRisk 01-08-2011 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 741045)
to be fair it could have been 9/11 coverup, vaccine conspiracy, or trilateral commission. the actual weird obsession isn't all that important. it's not like the guy had any understanding of economics. it's just something he heard repeated.

I agree that he has no understanding of economics, but seriously, there is something about these guys and the gold standard. Timothy McVeigh was all about it, too.

GenuineRisk 01-08-2011 09:16 PM

Sheriff Clarence Dupnik didn't pull any punches in the press conference:

“When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government. The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous. And, unfortunately, Arizona I think has become sort of the capital. We have become the Mecca for prejudice and bigotry."

Sightseek 01-09-2011 07:31 AM

Awful. :(

Coach Pants 01-09-2011 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 741062)
Sheriff Clarence Dupnik didn't pull any punches in the press conference:

“When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government. The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous. And, unfortunately, Arizona I think has become sort of the capital. We have become the Mecca for prejudice and bigotry."

Shocking. A liberal trying to politicize a crazy person.

Princess Doreen 01-09-2011 08:14 AM

2nd suspect sought -

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40978517...ics/?gt1=43001

AeWingnut 01-09-2011 08:26 AM

Dallas Green's grandaughter
 
http://azstarnet.com/news/local/arti...bd22c68c0.html

Nascar1966 01-09-2011 08:57 AM

Some one help me out here. How are Sarah Palin and the Tea Party to be blamed for this tragic event? I know Palin made the map showing where the people who voted yes to Obamacare lives. There is a certain time and place when politics has no business being brought up, yet it was yesterday after that coward killed and injured alot of people. Hopefully this coward gets the lethal injection he deserves and our taxpaying money wont be wasted on him spending the rest of his life in the funny farm.

Princess Doreen 01-09-2011 10:10 AM

The devil lives, and I sometimes think HE is winning the battle between good and evil.

I've never followed Sarah Palin around like she's some kind of know all, be all, end all solution to the country's political ills. But, I certainly don't think she meant her crosshairs image to mean death to those with whom she disagreed. How much hatred and vitriol has been heaped on her and her family?!~

Do I think such visual images or political rhetoric cause the actions of nutcases like this most recent one? Absolutely not. These people are so wrapped up in their own agenda, they don't care what anyone else says - not even the people who agree with them. They want the last word, they want the spotlight shone on them. This guy's bolt needed tightening on a daily basis. This guy sent out all kinds of warning signals, yet no one intervened. Our laws protect people like this. They're given a pass until they do something illegal. YET, people want to muzzle the media and take away free speech. I can't comprehend the double standard.

By far, nothing comes close to the hatred, vitriol, and violence of those times - the 60's. Perhaps the lessons learned have been forgotten.


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