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Danzig 09-01-2006 12:09 PM

the woodward
 
1--Wild Desert (Edgar Prado, 126)
2--Papi Chullo (Eibar Coa, 126)
3--Suave (Calvin Borel, 126)
4--Naughty New Yorker (Jose Santos, 126)
5--Sun King (Julien Leparoux, 126)
6--Flower Alley (John Velazquez, 126)
7--Second of June (Garrett Gomez, 126)
8--Premium Tap (Kent Desormeaux, 126)
9--Andromeda's Hero (Fernando Jara, 126)
10--Funny Cide (Richard Migliore, 126)
11--Wanderin Boy (Javier Castellano, 126)

funny cide will scratch if it's wet, wanderin boy may scratch if it's dry!!
sun king has finished second or third in six grade ones, is this going to be his first? i don't think it will, as he's a huge bounce candidate.
nny--bah.
suave--looking like my pick right now
flower alley---who's going to show?? will the real flower alley please stand up?! wouldn't bet him with someone else's money. may beat them for fun, but who's very confident about his chances after his last?
premium tap, would add in any exotics. don't think he'll come in on top, but that he'll be there.
andromeda's hero--hey, graded placed isn't a bad thing to have on a resume. no win bets on this guy.....

Danzig 09-01-2006 12:10 PM

forgot about wild desert, i chose him to win before, and he did....but not here. another to use in exotics.

somerfrost 09-01-2006 12:15 PM

Looks like a two horse race to me...Sun King and Flower Alley. Suave looks possible if you can get past Calvin Borel winning a grade one. Love Funny Cide but the outside post isn't good...even in the pick 6 contest, I'll probably stick with 2 horses here.

TitanSooner 09-01-2006 12:27 PM

What if Papi Chullo "somehow" drills this bunch?

Surely you got to like J. Buenaventura Vargas over Pletcher, Zito, Tagg..:D

Danzig 09-01-2006 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somerfrost
Looks like a two horse race to me...Sun King and Flower Alley. Suave looks possible if you can get past Calvin Borel winning a grade one. Love Funny Cide but the outside post isn't good...even in the pick 6 contest, I'll probably stick with 2 horses here.

i think sun king bounces to the moon here. flower alley, just not sure what to think about him.

waiting on odds, but think suave is the one here. UNLESS flower alley is in top form. but i have no confidence in this horse right now.

Danzig 09-01-2006 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TitanSooner
What if Papi Chullo "somehow" drills this bunch?

Surely you got to like J. Buenaventura Vargas over Pletcher, Zito, Tagg..:D

WHO?! lol i don't think so

eurobounce 09-01-2006 12:46 PM

1 Wild Desert (ON)
Edgar S. Prado
Borislow, Daniel, M., Goldfarb, Sanford, J., Diamond Pride LLC, Jones, Keith
4 Colt 126
Richard E. Dutrow, Jr.
Windways Farm Limited 5/1
2 Papi Chullo (FL)
Eibar Coa
Norman, Greg
4 Colt 126
J. Buenaventura Vargas
Philip Matthews & Karen Matthews 15/1
3 Suave (KY)
Calvin H. Borel
Jay Em Ess Stable
5 Horse 126
Paul J. McGee
Jan Siegel, Mace Siegel & SamanthaSiegel 6/1
4 Naughty New Yorker (NY)
Jose A. Santos
Fox Ridge Farm
4 Colt 126
Patrick J. Kelly
Dr. William B. Wilmot &Dr. Joan M. Taylor 20/1
5 Sun King (KY)
Julien R. Leparoux
Farmer, Tracy
4 Colt 126
Nicholas P. Zito
Cambridge Farm & James Daniel Conway 7/2
6 Flower Alley (KY)
John R. Velazquez
Melnyk Racing Stables, Inc.
4 Colt 126
Todd A. Pletcher
George Brunacini & Bona Terra Farms 3/1
7 Second of June (FL)
Garrett K. Gomez
Cesare, Barbara
5 Horse 126
William J. Cesare
Lambholm & E. Felcher 20/1
8 Premium Tap (KY)
Kent J. Desormeaux
Kline, George, Alevizos, Peter, Whelihan, David
4 Colt 126
John C. Kimmel
Machmer Hall & W. S. Farish 15/1
9 Andromeda's Hero (KY)
Fernando Jara
LaPenta, Robert, V.
4 Colt 126
Nicholas P. Zito
Barnett Enterprises 12/1
10 Funny Cide (NY)
Richard Migliore
Sackatoga Stable
6 Gelding 126
Barclay Tagg
Win Star Farm, LLC 10/1
11 Wanderin Boy (KY)
Javier Castellano
Han****, III, Arthur, B.
5 Horse 126
Nicholas P. Zito
Arthur B. Han**** III 12/1

Dunbar 09-01-2006 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig188
forgot about wild desert, i chose him to win before, and he did....but not here. another to use in exotics.

What about Second of June? I think I'm being swayed by memories rather than logic with this horse, but I do like the switch from Alborado to Gomez.

--Dunbar

Bold Brooklynite 09-01-2006 01:27 PM

Funny Cide and Naughty New Yorker were entered in the wrong race ...

... they belong in the Gen. MacArthur ... next week at Belmont ... 8f for New York-breds.

Someone please point this out to Tagg and Kelly.

FATPIANO 09-01-2006 01:33 PM

2nd of June finally fulfills the promise he showed at 3. This is a very consistant colt......

eurobounce 09-01-2006 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite
Funny Cide and Naughty New Yorker were entered in the wrong race ...

... they belong in the Gen. MacArthur ... next week at Belmont ... 8f for New York-breds.

Someone please point this out to Tagg and Kelly.

Yep, I agree.

Bold Brooklynite 09-01-2006 01:41 PM

Sun King finally wins one for The Nicker.

Bold Reasoning 09-01-2006 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FATPIANO
2nd of June finally fulfills the promise he showed at 3. This is a very consistant colt......

I like him, too; however, Suave has beaten him in his last two. Suave is the real deal.

Gander 09-01-2006 01:58 PM

I would like to see a trainer other than Pletcher, Dutrow or Zito when the last really huge race of the meet. Gosh I am sick of those guys. Anybody but them.

Danzig 09-01-2006 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunbar
What about Second of June? I think I'm being swayed by memories rather than logic with this horse, but I do like the switch from Alborado to Gomez.

--Dunbar

i would love to see him pull it off...but he just hasn't been quite the same since his return. always seems to be knocking on the door, but can't quite get there. another to use underneath.
i think suave is your winner, seems a contentious field, i'd imagine you could make an argument for several in here.

Danzig 09-01-2006 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite
Sun King finally wins one for The Nicker.

it would certainly compliment invasor if he beat this field. bounce city, he ran his eyeballs out in his last...

sumitas 09-01-2006 03:00 PM

It'll be total rain tomorrow. So FC will scratch and who knows who else. They'll seal the track, puddles and mud everywhere. And this is better than poly , which is basically the same rain or shine ?

:D :D i had to get that dig in there, lol :eek: but it's true

Danzig 09-01-2006 03:12 PM

the horses who invariably get the most respect are those who can win over any type of track....weather is one of many factors.
wanderin boy would be a scratch if it stayed dry, funny will scratch if it's wet. so either way, one of two will be happy.

hey, maybe they can concoct polyturf next, never an MTO entry again....

sumitas 09-01-2006 03:18 PM

Do it !! And take a patent out on it...

Danzig 09-01-2006 03:28 PM

i'm not a big fan of polytrack. too soon to tell exactly what affects it will have long-term. i think too many have jumped too quickly on that bandwagon. we already have a surface known to be kinder to a horse than running on dirt, and it's all-natural. TURF!

dalakhani 09-01-2006 04:43 PM

no one likes wanderin boy. I think he has a shot at a price especially if the conditions are poor. He will certainly have the lead.

Danzig 09-01-2006 10:59 PM

i wouldn't say no one. if it's sloppy a bunch of people will be liking him!

mclem10011 09-02-2006 08:45 AM

Woodward..........
 
Sun King could just get home first this time, call me crazy but I have a good feeling about Premium Tap! Just a crazy hunch, that problably won't run a step LOL! Off to make selections, later all good luck!

Sightseek 09-02-2006 09:02 AM

I'm either going to be very happy or very sad going with WILD DESERT here...I think he can sit off the pace, he's done reasonabily well in the 'wet' and I have a feeling this is the one Dutrow wanted. (and every time I ignore a horse ridden by Prado who is on the 'cusp' of my selections, he burns me! lol)

A big Booo on Tagg if he scratches...Funny is 2-1-1 out of 5 starts in the Wet. Show us the Derby winner! :D

Danzig 09-02-2006 09:50 AM

i don't understand why tagg is threatening to scratch if it's wet. as you said, fc has done well in the mud.

so, it's raining...need to adjust my pick 6 contest selections...and wild desert will be one i add, as is wanderin boy.
no to premium and sun king.

Bold Brooklynite 09-02-2006 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite
Funny Cide and Naughty New Yorker were entered in the wrong race ...

... they belong in the Gen. MacArthur ... next week at Belmont ... 8f for New York-breds.

Someone please point this out to Tagg and Kelly.

Hey ... why didn't one of you get to Tagg and Kelly?

Poor, poor Funny Cide ... once again victimized by the egomaniacal, glory-hungry Sack-o-kaka syndicate.

This brave and game ... and once-talented ... gelding belongs ... as I pointed out nearly two years ago ... strictly in New York-bred stakes races ... or ungraded open stakes races at second-tier tracks.

But ... I guess once you've had the national spotlight shone on you ... it's difficult to control your overwhelming desire to get back into it ... no matter how embarrassing it is for your horse.

Ain't that right, boys?

chupster2 09-02-2006 05:25 PM

What a yawn of a race.

Nostradamus 09-02-2006 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig188
i don't understand why tagg is threatening to scratch if it's wet. as you said, fc has done well in the mud.

so, it's raining...need to adjust my pick 6 contest selections...and wild desert will be one i add, as is wanderin boy.
no to premium and sun king.

He was looking for any excuse. Tagg wanted no part of this race. The owners deserved a shot though considering it was in their own backyard. I think he still has many wins left in him, just not grade 1's.

Funny Cide is still a very nice horse. He had won two of his last three, one of which was a $180K grade 3 race. He belongs is grade 3's and grade 2's that don't come up tough. A weak grade 1 like today is still too much for him.

The $250,000 Hawthorne Derby (Grade III) in a few weeks is likely his next race. He should have a great shot there.

Suffolk Shippers 09-02-2006 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nostradamus
He was looking for any excuse. Tagg wanted no part of this race. The owners deserved a shot though considering it was in their own backyard. I think he still has many wins left in him, just not grade 1's.

Funny Cide is still a very nice horse. He had won two of his last three, one of which was a $180K grade 3 race. He belongs is grade 3's and grade 2's that don't come up tough. A weak grade 1 like today is still too much for him.

The $250,000 Hawthorne Derby (Grade III) in a few weeks is likely his next race. He should have a great shot there.

You just wish the owners of Funny Cide would understand that he is not a top level runner anymore. He only really was for about 3 months that one year. He's one of my favorite and it is upsetting to see him forced to race in spots that are way over his head.

Danzig 09-02-2006 06:06 PM

just think all the wins he could have, all the good press, if he was just spotted correctly..they spot him right, he wins and rewards them, and they go nuts. think he's something he no longer is....it's a shame.

i have a lot of respect for the horse, not near as much for his trainer, and none for the owners. they remind me of the goose that laid the golden egg story, he ends up killing the goose to get what's inside that makes the gold....no more gold.

Cannon Shell 09-02-2006 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nostradamus
He was looking for any excuse. Tagg wanted no part of this race. The owners deserved a shot though considering it was in their own backyard. I think he still has many wins left in him, just not grade 1's.

Funny Cide is still a very nice horse. He had won two of his last three, one of which was a $180K grade 3 race. He belongs is grade 3's and grade 2's that don't come up tough. A weak grade 1 like today is still too much for him.

The $250,000 Hawthorne Derby (Grade III) in a few weeks is likely his next race. He should have a great shot there.





Thankfully you are not racing manager for Sackatoga. Even though they are pretty clueless at least they are running in races FC is eligible for. The Hawthorne Derby is for 3 year old Turf horses.

Zaf 09-02-2006 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite
Funny Cide and Naughty New Yorker were entered in the wrong race ...

... they belong in the Gen. MacArthur ... next week at Belmont ... 8f for New York-breds.

Someone please point this out to Tagg and Kelly.

Boy were you right !

Bold Brooklynite 09-03-2006 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaf
Boy were you right !

Stick around here long enough ... and you'll get used to that ...

... in fact ... before too long ... my being right will become as routine to you as brushing your teeth.

Dunbar 09-03-2006 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mclem10011
Sun King could just get home first this time, call me crazy but I have a good feeling about Premium Tap! Just a crazy hunch, that problably won't run a step LOL! Off to make selections, later all good luck!

Maybe you need more confidence in those "good feeling"''s! Nice call.

--Dunbar


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