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nebrady 11-10-2010 06:58 PM

Breeders Cup attendance and ratings up! Because of Zenyatta!
 
Just checked out brisnet and the breeders cup attendance, wagering and ratings were all up big! Do you know why? Because of Zenyatta! For all you people who think she isn't good for the industry, your nuts! Isn't the goal to have more people attend, bet and watch horses in general. If so then there is no way you can say she isn't great for horse industry! Also check out brisnet the trainer who stabled next to Zenyatta, was shocked how many people came out to see her. He said people in taxis pulled up and stopped just to get a glimpse! Yeah shes bad for the industry! Not! lol :rolleyes:

Duvalier 11-10-2010 07:00 PM

I really don't think anyone said she's bad for the industry

nebrady 11-10-2010 07:07 PM

Oh really why don't you ask ateamstupid, blackthroatwind and cannon shell. They all thinks shes overrated. Well ratings and attendance don't lie!:)

hockey2315 11-10-2010 07:08 PM

I'm setting the over/under on your age at 13.

hi_im_god 11-10-2010 07:10 PM

i didn't think i'd ever post in a zenyatta thread until now.

it feels even worse than i expected.

Duvalier 11-10-2010 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by nebrady (Post 721684)
Oh really why don't you ask ateamstupid, blackthroatwind and cannon shell. They all thinks shes overrated. Well ratings and attendance don't lie!:)

Because personally I don't care what they think...and I know for a fact none of them said she's bad for the industry. I think I have to go with the under hockey2315.

blackthroatedwind 11-10-2010 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 721685)
I'm setting the over/under on your IQ at 13.

FTFY.

Indian Charlie 11-10-2010 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 721685)
I'm setting the over/under on your IQ at 13.

Fixed your typo.

Indian Charlie 11-10-2010 07:53 PM

Damnit.

herkhorse 11-10-2010 08:05 PM

From the Grand Coulee Dam to the Capitol

fpsoxfan 11-10-2010 08:08 PM

And all of this time I thought ratings and attendance were up because the Breeders Cup was being run on dirt. Geeeeeez.

blackthroatedwind 11-10-2010 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 721725)
Damnit.

I laughed.

Sightseek 11-10-2010 08:11 PM

Indian Charlie's worst nightmare...


http://www.facebook.com/#!/video/vid...v=702115553024

Indian Charlie 11-10-2010 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 721740)
Indian Charlie's worst nightmare...


http://www.facebook.com/#!/video/vid...v=702115553024

Not at all.

My worst nightmare would be to be woken up by Smoothie and Rock Tard Hen in negligee.

I really don't mind people being unabashed fans of a horse. What I mind is the illogical lack of reasoning and infantile powers of reasoning that go into calling Zenyatta the greatest of anything, except maybe synthetics.

I'm more than a little surprised that you crossed over to that side.

Sightseek 11-10-2010 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 721749)
Not at all.

My worst nightmare would be to be woken up by Smoothie and Rock Tard Hen in negligee.

I really don't mind people being unabashed fans of a horse. What I mind is the illogical lack of reasoning and infantile powers of reasoning that go into calling Zenyatta the greatest of anything, except maybe synthetics.

I'm more than a little surprised that you crossed over to that side.

When did I call her the greatest? It was an amazing experience being at the Breeders Cup, but I don't know how that translates to viewing her as the greatest of all?

(and really, did we need that visual in negligees?!)

Indian Charlie 11-10-2010 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 721762)
When did I call her the greatest? It was an amazing experience being at the Breeders Cup, but I don't know how that translates to viewing her as the greatest of all?

(and really, did we need that visual in negligees?!)

Clearly!!!!

slotdirt 11-10-2010 09:27 PM

I would note that the increase in on-track wagering was significantly lower percentage wise than the increase in attendance. So while folks might have gone to see Zenyatta, a lot of them didn't bet.

Sorry to actually make an on-topic post. I apologize.

Dahoss 11-10-2010 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 721768)
So while folks might have gone to see Zenyatta, a lot of them didn't bet.

Shocking....

Dahoss 11-10-2010 11:00 PM

I have a question for those in attendance Friday and Saturday. Do the attendance figures seem legit? From everything I have heard, it was dead on Friday, so that number seems inflated.

Duvalier 11-10-2010 11:06 PM

What was the number for Fri? Attendance was pretty low...the weather or I should say temperature could've had something to do with it

Sightseek 11-10-2010 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 721816)
I have a question for those in attendance Friday and Saturday. Do the attendance figures seem legit? From everything I have heard, it was dead on Friday, so that number seems inflated.

I wonder if Friday's number includes ticket sales that were two day packages and the people did not attend?

Danzig 11-10-2010 11:23 PM

if it's an increase from the last time CD held it, you might be on to something. if it's an increase over any track but CD, it's par for the course. CD always has higher #'s then when the bc is held elsewhere.

Dahoss 11-10-2010 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 721818)
What was the number for Fri? Attendance was pretty low...the weather or I should say temperature could've had something to do with it

According to Churchill attendance was 41,614. I'm just skeptical by nature and everyone I have talked to says there is no way that many people were there. What Sightseek says makes some sense although at this point it seems possible the numbers, all of them might be fudged.

Duvalier 11-10-2010 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 721831)
According to Churchill attendance was 41,614. I'm just skeptical by nature and everyone I have talked to says there is no way that many people were there. What Sightseek says makes some sense although at this point it seems possible the numbers, all of them might be fudged.

There was definitely not that many people there. Sightseek is probably right about how they came up with that number.

Dahoss 11-10-2010 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 721835)
There was definitely not that many people there. Sightseek is probably right about how they came up with that number.

If you were there Saturday, did it seem like 72,739?

Duvalier 11-10-2010 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 721836)
If you were there Saturday, did it seem like 72,739?

It was packed but obviously I'd really only be guessing at the exact total...but yeah that is probably a pretty close estimate. Attendance wise between Fri and Sat it was like night and day...that's why I doubt Fridays number.

hi_im_god 11-10-2010 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 721836)
If you were there Saturday, did it seem like 72,739?

or closer to 69,214?

Kasept 11-11-2010 06:02 AM

I've been to every Oaks/Derby the last 10 years and have a pretty good feel for the building and how it is when full. Friday's crowd was shockingly sparse. Saturday was well attended, but the attendance numbers certainly were ticket sales figures.

As to the original point, the 60 Minutes story on Zenyatta undoubtedly drove TV viewership up, but Churchill always hosts the best attended Cups. Zenyatta wasn't as big a draw in person as she was in front of the box given the Saturday gate was basically at the average attendance of previous BC visits to the Ville:

1988: 71,237
1991: 66,204
1994: 71,671
1998: 80,452
2000: 76,043
2006: 75,132 (Avg. 73,456)
2010: 72,739

ddthetide 11-11-2010 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 721865)
I've been to every Oaks/Derby the last 10 years and have a pretty good feel for the building and how it is when full. Friday's crowd was shockingly sparse. Saturday was well attended, but the attendance numbers certainly were ticket sales figures.

As to the original point, the 60 Minutes story on Zenyatta undoubtedly drove TV viewership up, but Churchill always hosts the best attended Cups. Zenyatta wasn't as big a draw in person as she was in front of the box given the Saturday gate was basically at the average attendance of previous BC visits to the Ville:

1988: 71,237
1991: 66,204
1994: 71,671
1998: 80,452
2000: 76,043
2006: 75,132 (Avg. 73,456)
2010: 72,739

we can atest to the 60 Minute piece helping. we had several neighbors contact us about the saturday schedule. most of them watched most of the day not just Z's race.

slotdirt 11-11-2010 07:12 AM

Wait, so this was the least attended BC at the Downs since 1994?

Thunder Gulch 11-11-2010 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 721873)
Wait, so this was the least attended BC at the Downs since 1994?

And on a very nice- though chilly- day. I wasn't there in 2006, but if I recall 1998 and 2000 were cloudy and cold.

slotdirt 11-11-2010 10:18 AM

'06 was freaking freezing. I was there for almost a week, and recall seeing frost on the ground virtually every morning.

10 pnt move up 11-11-2010 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 721865)
I've been to every Oaks/Derby the last 10 years and have a pretty good feel for the building and how it is when full. Friday's crowd was shockingly sparse. Saturday was well attended, but the attendance numbers certainly were ticket sales figures.

As to the original point, the 60 Minutes story on Zenyatta undoubtedly drove TV viewership up, but Churchill always hosts the best attended Cups. Zenyatta wasn't as big a draw in person as she was in front of the box given the Saturday gate was basically at the average attendance of previous BC visits to the Ville:

1988: 71,237
1991: 66,204
1994: 71,671
1998: 80,452
2000: 76,043
2006: 75,132 (Avg. 73,456)
2010: 72,739

Next year is going to be a better barometer IMO, not comparing it to SA or past BC's.

Shouldn't you add Friday and Saturday together to make comparisons to previous years? Obviously they are watering down Saturday so direct comparisons to me don't make a lot of sense to other CD years.

tector 11-11-2010 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse (Post 721733)
From the Grand Coulee Dam to the Capitol

Now look what I started....

Antitrust32 11-11-2010 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 721924)
Next year is going to be a better barometer IMO, not comparing it to SA or past BC's.

Shouldn't you add Friday and Saturday together to make comparisons to previous years? Obviously they are watering down Saturday so direct comparisons to me don't make a lot of sense to other CD years.

no

dalakhani 11-11-2010 06:46 PM

I went in 2000. Saturday felt like So Cal compared to that day. It was pretty nasty.

The euro contingent was definitely lacking this time around. Did anyone else notice that or was it just me? This BC seemed the least euro that I can remember.

The excitement in the finale was like no other BC Classic that I have been to. There was a different kind of energy it seemed.

Friday was sparse...no doubt.

Smooth Operator 11-12-2010 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 722066)
I went in 2000. Saturday felt like So Cal compared to that day. It was pretty nasty.

The euro contingent was definitely lacking this time around. Did anyone else notice that or was it just me? This BC seemed the least euro that I can remember.

The excitement in the finale was like no other BC Classic that I have been to. There was a different kind of energy it seemed.

Friday was sparse...no doubt.


Rock star :cool:

citycat 11-12-2010 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 721816)
I have a question for those in attendance Friday and Saturday. Do the attendance figures seem legit? From everything I have heard, it was dead on Friday, so that number seems inflated.

As you probably know CD is a huge facility. On most days people are out milling around but on Friday is was pretty cold with the wind whipping around. It was very crowded underneath and I was surprised when I spoke to my wife, who was at home watching, and she said it looked like there was not alot of people there.

Cannon Shell 11-12-2010 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 722421)
Rock star :cool:

A regular Izzy Cole

Smooth Operator 11-12-2010 02:31 PM

Equine version of The Boss :cool:


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